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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 08:33

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 08:22

Rees Newman for one

His sentence was delayed because of prison overcrowding. Unfortunately room had to be made for racist thugs.

Uricon2 · 07/04/2025 08:34

Points 9 and 10 of HH Judge Inmans sentencing remarks-

The police were however able to trace other tweets that you had sent both before and after the 29th July which included further racist remarks. On the 5th August, the day before you were arrested you sent a WhatsApp message which included “..raging tweet about burning down hotels has bit me on the arse lol “ which is commonly understood to mean laugh out loud.

  1. You also messaged that if enquiries of you were made, you would deny you were responsible for the message and if you were arrested you would “ play the mental health card “.

So not a one off and she had made racist remarks prior to the tragedy in Southport.

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 08:34

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 08:33

His sentence was delayed because of prison overcrowding. Unfortunately room had to be made for racist thugs.

Edited

No. He got a suspended sentence because of overcrowding

NameChangedForThis2025 · 07/04/2025 08:35

User46576 · 07/04/2025 00:03

Absolutely there is a difference. She said “burn them down for all I care” (when news reports were already reporting the hotel being subjected to arson). It’s a horrible thing to say but not an instruction or incitement imo. I don’t think she should have been jailed

I agree. It was a horrible horrible post and there’s no excusing it.

But like others I don’t think anyone should go to jail for horrible inexcusable tweets unless it’s actually a direct instruction to another specific person / group of people that would be reasonably likely to follow those instructions to cause physical harm.

MyZippyLemonBiscuit · 07/04/2025 08:39

it’s a shame that more people aren’t as outraged as she was, while I do agree the tweet was too far it’s not worth a jail sentence and she’s right about mass deportation. It would have prevented the likes of the Southport stabbings had that boy and his parents been deported at the first sign of trouble (the government knew he was looking into terrorism and so did his parents)

JHound · 07/04/2025 08:39

Allison Pearson is never right about anything and she is breathtakingly stupid.

I don’t feel sorry for those who incite violence and encourage others to burn people alive in their homes. I also am very comfortable with the 2024 rioters being treated harshly in the exact same way the 2011 rioters were.

Viviennemary · 07/04/2025 08:42

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:03

I don't think anyone should go to prison for tweets.

Neither do I. But should get a fine or caution or suspended sentence even. Especially when the woman who killed her new born got only a suspended sentence.

JaniceBattersby · 07/04/2025 08:42

What this man did was abhorrent but he’s not a child rapist. The sentence for rape in this country is life, with a range of 4-19 years.

FWIW I’ve sat in our courts for 20 years and only ever seen one person given below the stat minimum sentence and he was a 13-year-old boy with a victim of a similar age in circumstances that made me surprised he was prosecuted.

User32459 · 07/04/2025 08:43

Gloriia · 07/04/2025 08:18

'If they don’t sentence him to the same for saying right wing people should get their throats cut then there’s going to be more trouble and it will prove people right about the two tier justice system'

Exactly.

One pleaded guilty, one didn't.

Stegochops · 07/04/2025 08:44

MyZippyLemonBiscuit · 07/04/2025 08:39

it’s a shame that more people aren’t as outraged as she was, while I do agree the tweet was too far it’s not worth a jail sentence and she’s right about mass deportation. It would have prevented the likes of the Southport stabbings had that boy and his parents been deported at the first sign of trouble (the government knew he was looking into terrorism and so did his parents)

How would it have prevented the awful murders in Southport? Rudukubana was born in Cardiff. Where would they have deported him to? Wales?

The racism and indifference towards people of colour who were victims during the riots is visible on Mumsnet today.

User32459 · 07/04/2025 08:44

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 08:33

His sentence was delayed because of prison overcrowding. Unfortunately room had to be made for racist thugs.

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Build more prisons

Deport foreign criminals

MarmaladeSandwichUnderMyHat · 07/04/2025 08:47

I agree with you OP.
Really sad to hear that she had lost a son, I wonder to what extent her own grief and resonance with the victims’ parents influenced her anger and actions.
It’s worrying that men who commit crimes and are clearly are danger to women sometimes don’t get custodial sentences (or any punishment in some cases).

PeekabooRoots · 07/04/2025 08:49

NameChangedForThis2025 · 07/04/2025 08:35

I agree. It was a horrible horrible post and there’s no excusing it.

But like others I don’t think anyone should go to jail for horrible inexcusable tweets unless it’s actually a direct instruction to another specific person / group of people that would be reasonably likely to follow those instructions to cause physical harm.

Agreed. I wonder if any of Lucy’s critics have listened to the increasing number of Muslims with extreme views in this country who are calling for us all to be killed, humiliated, forcibly converted and our women raped? They have not been imprisoned.

Apparently the UK recently welcomed a hate preacher who has been banned from a huge number of countries for his jihadi activism. He was to carry out a speaking tour.

Speeches made to supportive groups and have the means and desire to act.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 07/04/2025 08:49

What she did was wrong but when you consider the amount of hate speech posted online and preached in mosques where there's been no further action taken by the police then it becomes very clear she's been made an example of

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 08:51

User32459 · 07/04/2025 08:44

Build more prisons

Deport foreign criminals

Last year during the sentencing? Do you think that's feasible?

User32459 · 07/04/2025 08:54

MarmaladeSandwichUnderMyHat · 07/04/2025 08:47

I agree with you OP.
Really sad to hear that she had lost a son, I wonder to what extent her own grief and resonance with the victims’ parents influenced her anger and actions.
It’s worrying that men who commit crimes and are clearly are danger to women sometimes don’t get custodial sentences (or any punishment in some cases).

Liberalism took over the judiciary during New Labour. The Tories did nothing to get it back in 14 years and compounded the problem with cuts leading to case backlogs.

We're stuck with weak as piss judges still in thrall to bullshit like article 8 of ECHR. Although human rights never apply to our own citizens.

DancingLions · 07/04/2025 08:54

To be fair, a lot of the article was about her not getting HDC, released on a tag.
Having assessed many cases for HDC, I would say she is eligible. Regardless of how people feel about the initial sentence, she should receive the same treatment as everyone else. Refusing something she's eligible for, because of "public perception" or whatever words they want to use, is wrong. The decision to release her should be based on the same factors used in anyone else's case. That is the element that is "unfair".

User32459 · 07/04/2025 08:55

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 08:51

Last year during the sentencing? Do you think that's feasible?

Hundreds of foreign criminals in our own jails could have been deported to make way.

Imbusytodaysorry · 07/04/2025 08:55

Yes she has done her time and should be released. .
She absolutely should have been sent to jail though .
She was released on bail and went out and did it again.
There was a struggle to keep peace, comments like hers make it harder to keep everyone safe in an already horrible time .

Mylegishangingoff · 07/04/2025 08:56

Stegochops · 07/04/2025 08:44

How would it have prevented the awful murders in Southport? Rudukubana was born in Cardiff. Where would they have deported him to? Wales?

The racism and indifference towards people of colour who were victims during the riots is visible on Mumsnet today.

I agree. Are people forgetting how absolutely feral some people were at the time? People were terrified to go outside. I remember one poor woman filming herself for some kind of safety crying, scared for her life walking home from work. Mumsnet was unusable due to the sheer volume of racist posts that kept cropping up. As soon as a thread was deleted another would pop up. The sheer hatred that was spewing out of the racists across the UK was disgusting. I have no sympathy for 'middle class' racist white women who think they can get away with inciting hatred by 'playing the mental health card'.

KimberleyClark · 07/04/2025 08:57

User32459 · 07/04/2025 08:44

Build more prisons

Deport foreign criminals

Who’s for paying more tax to fund these things?

Thought not.

FinishLast · 07/04/2025 08:58

BarMonaco · 06/04/2025 22:58

The Telegraph wouldn't be so sympathetic if an immigrant had committed a crime after losing a child, instead of the wife of a tory councillor 🙄They were horrendous in the way they whipped up anti immigrant and EU sentiment before the referendum. No surprise they think someone should be forgiven for inciting people to burn down an asylum centre

Sadly, one view for one and a very different view for another…

IveGotAnUnusuallyLargePelvisISwear · 07/04/2025 08:59

MyZippyLemonBiscuit · 07/04/2025 08:39

it’s a shame that more people aren’t as outraged as she was, while I do agree the tweet was too far it’s not worth a jail sentence and she’s right about mass deportation. It would have prevented the likes of the Southport stabbings had that boy and his parents been deported at the first sign of trouble (the government knew he was looking into terrorism and so did his parents)

Axel Rudakubana was born in Cardiff. Are you saying that he should have been deported to Wales? You do realise we’re part of the UK?

Stegochops · 07/04/2025 09:00

Mylegishangingoff · 07/04/2025 08:56

I agree. Are people forgetting how absolutely feral some people were at the time? People were terrified to go outside. I remember one poor woman filming herself for some kind of safety crying, scared for her life walking home from work. Mumsnet was unusable due to the sheer volume of racist posts that kept cropping up. As soon as a thread was deleted another would pop up. The sheer hatred that was spewing out of the racists across the UK was disgusting. I have no sympathy for 'middle class' racist white women who think they can get away with inciting hatred by 'playing the mental health card'.

Thank you ❤️

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 09:00

User32459 · 07/04/2025 08:55

Hundreds of foreign criminals in our own jails could have been deported to make way.

I have no idea what you're on about. You think the prison service had time to contact various countries, agree for prisoners to move and sort out their terms, then find room for the rioters last year while terms were being handed out?

The overcrowding was due to Tory mismanagement of the prison system. Labour had been in for a few weeks when the riots kicked off.

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