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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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JoyousEagle · 06/04/2025 23:18

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 06/04/2025 23:08

Pay wall, op

What did she say that was so awful?

Keir starmer loves locking people up with insane sentences tbh but i won't pick a side just yet

Oh did Labour make changes to sentences between getting in and this woman going to prison?

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:20

SallyD00lally · 06/04/2025 23:17

Hmmm

So if someone tweeted your address and encouraged a mob to go round and burn your house to the ground, while you and your children were in it, you don't think they should go to prison?

Pull the other one.

Did she tweet an address and did people actually follow her direction? As I understand it she deleted it pretty quickly and it wasn't viewed by loads of people and no evidence that anyone was actually incited to violence by her tweet.

There is a difference between what she did and directly arranging an attack imo

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 06/04/2025 23:20

JoyousEagle · 06/04/2025 23:18

Oh did Labour make changes to sentences between getting in and this woman going to prison?

Omg please dont all jump on me 😭 I'm a leftie

Keir & 2011 was why I said that - plus kier did say that the punishments for these rioters would be swift, which is why I thought he had a hand in it

ChipsChips · 06/04/2025 23:20

What she did was absolutely wrong.
The sentence is completely disproportionate.

I don’t see it as a free speech argument- we’ve never had absolute free speech and inciting violence is rightfully a crime. But in a world where people serve less time for actual violent offences, I think her sentence is nuts. I remember being similarly struck by shock at the sentencing in the London riots- presumably judges are directed to give the harshest penalty to deter others.

That said, I also think the Ap article is nuts and deliberately blurs the arguments between “wrong but too harshly punished” and “free speech and so not wrong”.

JoyousEagle · 06/04/2025 23:21

Wimbledonmum1985 · 06/04/2025 22:53

I read it too and was shocked. I had no sympathy for her but the article made me reconsider. There was a a lot I hadn’t known about the case, including the death of her child, her job as a childminder and the perspectives of the parents of her charges. I think she should be let out. She has paid a heavy price for a moment of madness.

She also said (as per the judge’s sentencing remarks) that if her comments got her arrested she’d “play the mental health card”.

randomchap · 06/04/2025 23:21

So the Torygraph has come out in defence of the wife of a Tory councillor. That's in no way surprising.

“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f hotels full of the b* for all I care... If that makes me racist, so be it.”

There's no defence of that vile racist scum. She, and her supporters, can fuck right off.

SallyD00lally · 06/04/2025 23:22

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:20

Did she tweet an address and did people actually follow her direction? As I understand it she deleted it pretty quickly and it wasn't viewed by loads of people and no evidence that anyone was actually incited to violence by her tweet.

There is a difference between what she did and directly arranging an attack imo

"All the fucking hotels"

No different to tweeting the addresses given how easily people can Google them.

So if you and your kids were staying in one of the hotels that were set fire to and your kids died, you don't think people should go to prison for tweeting these things?

skippy67 · 06/04/2025 23:23

I'm unsure of the relationship between the pm and the sentencing guidelines for the riots, so I won't say more but when he was in charge of the cps during the 2011 riots, those sentences were silly

Maybe read up on exactly what you're unsure of? Particularly the "silly" sentences you've referred to...

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/04/2025 23:23

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:03

I don't think anyone should go to prison for tweets.

I know addicts who dont think their dealers should be locked up. Until what you think becomes the law, it's immaterial.🤷‍♀️

Stripeyanddotty · 06/04/2025 23:24

The sentence is completely disproportionate.

She only will serve 40% of the 31 months. So just over 12 months.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 06/04/2025 23:24

skippy67 · 06/04/2025 23:23

I'm unsure of the relationship between the pm and the sentencing guidelines for the riots, so I won't say more but when he was in charge of the cps during the 2011 riots, those sentences were silly

Maybe read up on exactly what you're unsure of? Particularly the "silly" sentences you've referred to...

The sentences were silly for the 2011 riots and they're unduly harsh this time around

Kier may no longer be the head of the cps but he was the one stating there'd be swift punishments for rioters. I don't see him doing anything about the harsh sentences being given to peaceful climate protectors either

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:24

SallyD00lally · 06/04/2025 23:22

"All the fucking hotels"

No different to tweeting the addresses given how easily people can Google them.

So if you and your kids were staying in one of the hotels that were set fire to and your kids died, you don't think people should go to prison for tweeting these things?

The people setting fire to the building are the criminals.

Maitri108 · 06/04/2025 23:25

What a load of saccharine nonsense. Her husband couldn't afford shoes? I'm surprised Tiny Tim didn't make an appearance.

Apparently she was arrested for 'political views' and the author thinks she's a political prisoner, a victim of Two Tier Keir.

She seems to think the riots were a natural reaction to immigration. I'm wondering how someone on the hard right is a safe harbour for waifs and strays given her views on murdering people seeking refuge.

Shame she deleted her Twitter account as it probably had lots of 'political' views on it.

Sarah2891 · 06/04/2025 23:25

She's absolutely vile. I can't feel sorry for her.
The strict sentences were needed to stop the madness that was going on.

Rorlikalyon · 06/04/2025 23:25

QuillBill · 06/04/2025 22:59

I have got no sympathy for her. I can’t imagine how those people in the hotels that were being attacked by angry mobs felt.

Give me your address and I’ll do a post telling a load of people to burn your house down while your children sleep. It’s no trouble.

Now she’s exploiting being a mother to try and garner sympathy. And having an unwell husband. But she didn’t care about those other people being mothers or having husbands.

Spot on.

Only white mothers and white kids count as valuable enough and worthy of empathy for those sorts I’m afraid.

JoyousEagle · 06/04/2025 23:25

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:20

Did she tweet an address and did people actually follow her direction? As I understand it she deleted it pretty quickly and it wasn't viewed by loads of people and no evidence that anyone was actually incited to violence by her tweet.

There is a difference between what she did and directly arranging an attack imo

I don’t know what actually constitutes a lot of views for a tweet - I don’t have anything to compare it to, but it was viewed hundreds of thousands of times, and retweeted a thousand times.

SallyD00lally · 06/04/2025 23:26

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:24

The people setting fire to the building are the criminals.

And if your child died in one of the burning hotel rooms, you'd only want those who set fire to it to be jailed, and not those who encouraged and incited it?

Interesting.

And a bit disturbing but at least you're honest about it.

randomchap · 06/04/2025 23:26

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:24

The people setting fire to the building are the criminals.

So are the people encouraging it

Incitement is a crime too

Stop defending a vile racist

Rorlikalyon · 06/04/2025 23:27

JoyousEagle · 06/04/2025 23:21

She also said (as per the judge’s sentencing remarks) that if her comments got her arrested she’d “play the mental health card”.

Disgusting.

Notatallanamechange · 06/04/2025 23:27

Wimbledonmum1985 · 06/04/2025 22:53

I read it too and was shocked. I had no sympathy for her but the article made me reconsider. There was a a lot I hadn’t known about the case, including the death of her child, her job as a childminder and the perspectives of the parents of her charges. I think she should be let out. She has paid a heavy price for a moment of madness.

Heavy price for moment of madness? You mean paid a fair price for inciting racial violence. Wtf is wrong with people.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 06/04/2025 23:28

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 06/04/2025 23:24

The sentences were silly for the 2011 riots and they're unduly harsh this time around

Kier may no longer be the head of the cps but he was the one stating there'd be swift punishments for rioters. I don't see him doing anything about the harsh sentences being given to peaceful climate protectors either

You really don’t understand how any of this works do you?

Notatallanamechange · 06/04/2025 23:28

JoyousEagle · 06/04/2025 23:25

I don’t know what actually constitutes a lot of views for a tweet - I don’t have anything to compare it to, but it was viewed hundreds of thousands of times, and retweeted a thousand times.

Aye it’s fine if you say it, so long as 1000s don’t see it… what on Earth is wrong with this country

SallyD00lally · 06/04/2025 23:29

randomchap · 06/04/2025 23:26

So are the people encouraging it

Incitement is a crime too

Stop defending a vile racist

People who defend vile racists tend to have a completely different view, if they or their families get caught up in the violence/murders.

Until then, they tend not to give a shit because it's happening to 'foreigners'.

maddening · 06/04/2025 23:29

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/04/2025 23:23

I know addicts who dont think their dealers should be locked up. Until what you think becomes the law, it's immaterial.🤷‍♀️

Edited

This is a discussion inviting opinions - I was not under any impression that what I think was becoming law. I do think that the punishment does not fit the crime.

Saying you don't care if they burn the hotels down is abhorrent - but relative to the punishments we see for crimes committed, i don't think this is proportionate.

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 06/04/2025 23:29

SallyD00lally · 06/04/2025 23:17

Hmmm

So if someone tweeted your address and encouraged a mob to go round and burn your house to the ground, while you and your children were in it, you don't think they should go to prison?

Pull the other one.

Exactly
Bet people would soon change their tune then.
Or if she wasn't white and saying stuff about brown/black migrants, if it was someone black saying what she did would there hell be all this sympathy.

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