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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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Clavinova · 15/04/2025 16:20

Maitri108
It's not for you to instruct me on what I can or can't say on a public forum

That's exactly what you have been doing to me.

Maitri108 · 15/04/2025 16:23

Clavinova · 15/04/2025 16:20

Maitri108
It's not for you to instruct me on what I can or can't say on a public forum

That's exactly what you have been doing to me.

I asked you to have the courtesy to @ me if you're addressing comments to me. If you're unsure of how to do that , I'm happy to help.

I have not told you who you can or can't talk to or how long or short your answers should be.

Clavinova · 15/04/2025 16:44

Maitri108 · 15/04/2025 16:23

I asked you to have the courtesy to @ me if you're addressing comments to me. If you're unsure of how to do that , I'm happy to help.

I have not told you who you can or can't talk to or how long or short your answers should be.

Will do - although I have turned that facility off so I don't receive similar notifications.

I have not told you who you can or can't talk to or how long or short your answers should be.

I was being sarcastic. You told me to stop repeating myself even though I was replying to another poster.

Gloriia · 15/04/2025 17:07

'I asked you to have the courtesy to @ me if you're addressing comments to me. If you're unsure of how to do that , I'm happy to help.'

Honestly how patronising. Most folk can follow the flow of debate without needing @'ing. I have it turned off as I'd imagine most do.

< i know I know not aimed at me before I get a telling off>

Mumble12 · 15/04/2025 17:12

AzurePanda · 15/04/2025 16:05

@Mumble12 it has been reported that the person preparing the psychiatric report on her didn’t even ask about the death of her son Harry.

Justice has to be seen to be fair. The fact that she was denied bail appears to have been manifestly unfair.

point 20 acknowledges the death of her son. I’m going to keep referring to the sentencing remarks rather than ‘reports’ that you may have seen in the media

Mumble12 · 15/04/2025 17:14

AzurePanda · 15/04/2025 15:49

@whippy1981 well ok, sentenced to 31 months imprisonment and serving 40% then. What does this achieve that a community order or suspended sentence wouldn’t have done? Particularly as regards her surviving child and ill husband.

Neither of those things were options for her admitted offence.

AzurePanda · 15/04/2025 17:18

@Mumble12 yes the death of her son was referred to but accounts suggest the psychiatric report did not take this into account. Obviously the judge would have relied on that report.

Yes she pleaded guilty but this seems to have been largely influenced by the fact that bail had (highly unusually) not been granted and the expectation that the court would assign a different category to the offence. This is why we have appeals,

Mumble12 · 15/04/2025 17:22

AzurePanda · 15/04/2025 17:18

@Mumble12 yes the death of her son was referred to but accounts suggest the psychiatric report did not take this into account. Obviously the judge would have relied on that report.

Yes she pleaded guilty but this seems to have been largely influenced by the fact that bail had (highly unusually) not been granted and the expectation that the court would assign a different category to the offence. This is why we have appeals,

If bail is usually applied, but wasn’t in this case, I would be inclined to think they’re looking to treat it as seriously as possible and would therefore absolutely think it had been assigned a higher category. If there was even the chance of it being category 1 she shouldn’t have plead guilty of she didn’t think she was.

Where has the idea that it wasn’t taken into account come from? Anywhere reputable? A full psychiatric evaluation was done. If she was suffering a mental health condition (as the result of losing her son or not), it would have been looked into.

Maitri108 · 15/04/2025 17:34

AzurePanda · 15/04/2025 17:18

@Mumble12 yes the death of her son was referred to but accounts suggest the psychiatric report did not take this into account. Obviously the judge would have relied on that report.

Yes she pleaded guilty but this seems to have been largely influenced by the fact that bail had (highly unusually) not been granted and the expectation that the court would assign a different category to the offence. This is why we have appeals,

As has been said several times on the thread, the judge read the psychiatric reports from 12 years ago regarding her loss. She was also psychologically assessed before she went to court. No evidence was found that her behaviour was caused by mental illness.

whippy1981 · 15/04/2025 17:39

Mumble12 · 15/04/2025 17:14

Neither of those things were options for her admitted offence.

Nope it wasn't and rightly so she was sent down. I agree with the sentencing.

AzurePanda · 15/04/2025 17:50

@Maitri108 her allegation is that the death of her child wasn’t taken into account in the second psychiatric assessment which is the one the judge would have relied upon. Seems odd that she would lie about this when it will all come out as part of her appeal but I guess we’ll find out one way or the other.

Maitri108 · 15/04/2025 17:52

AzurePanda · 15/04/2025 17:50

@Maitri108 her allegation is that the death of her child wasn’t taken into account in the second psychiatric assessment which is the one the judge would have relied upon. Seems odd that she would lie about this when it will all come out as part of her appeal but I guess we’ll find out one way or the other.

As far as I'm aware there haven't been any interviews with her. Where did she say that?

Mumble12 · 15/04/2025 17:55

AzurePanda · 15/04/2025 17:50

@Maitri108 her allegation is that the death of her child wasn’t taken into account in the second psychiatric assessment which is the one the judge would have relied upon. Seems odd that she would lie about this when it will all come out as part of her appeal but I guess we’ll find out one way or the other.

well that would be a non starter because the judge did take into account the initial report, made at the time of the loss of her child. It wasn’t found to be relevant to the case (rightly)

PearReview · 15/04/2025 18:15

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 07/04/2025 07:38

I read the article. Wouldn't have done if I had realised that it was written by Allison Pearson, as her she has her own personal agenda as we all know.

I'm very sorry that this woman lost her son. That's tragic. But there are plenty of other bereaved parents who don't inadvertently find themselves tweeting racist stuff online and inciting others to set fire to buildings full of innocent people. I really don't see how this kind of behaviour can be attributed to PTSD.

And the fact that she had diverse customers paying her to look after their children does not prove in any way that she wasn't racist.

Inciting violence and racial hatred are not behaviours that we should tolerate from anyone in the UK, regardless of who the perpetrators are. I'm glad that she was sentenced accordingly.

Hear hear.

And Allison Pearson is an abomination.

PearReview · 15/04/2025 18:17

The government’s swift and clear action ended the riots. I was quite impressed. Their policy worked.

Maitri108 · 15/04/2025 18:18

PearReview · 15/04/2025 18:17

The government’s swift and clear action ended the riots. I was quite impressed. Their policy worked.

Apparently some racists are more equal than others.

PearReview · 15/04/2025 18:20

This woman is a clear racist. I work in MH with people who have experienced the worst horrors. They don’t all get ‘triggered’ into inciting violence. This person suffered a hideous loss, the most cruel kind. It doesn’t justify what she did though. Her history speaks for itself.

Having said that, I don’t care really if she spends that much more time in jail or not. She will always be a hideous racist I expect, and will probably come back to a hero’s welcome. Cheered on by some similarly-minded posters on MN too of course.

AzurePanda · 15/04/2025 18:26

If the appeal shows that bail was correctly applied, the offence was correctly categorised, she received adequate counsel and the updated psychiatric report took into account the impact of the death of her child, then I will be happy with the outcome too. These are my issues.

Maitri108 · 15/04/2025 18:30

PearReview · 15/04/2025 18:20

This woman is a clear racist. I work in MH with people who have experienced the worst horrors. They don’t all get ‘triggered’ into inciting violence. This person suffered a hideous loss, the most cruel kind. It doesn’t justify what she did though. Her history speaks for itself.

Having said that, I don’t care really if she spends that much more time in jail or not. She will always be a hideous racist I expect, and will probably come back to a hero’s welcome. Cheered on by some similarly-minded posters on MN too of course.

I'm sure you're mistaken. I'm sure the Lucy Connolly Appreciation Society just want to see justice done. Just like the Tommy Robinson Appreciation Society who will be praying for his swift release.

Gloriia · 15/04/2025 18:49

Maitri108 · 15/04/2025 18:30

I'm sure you're mistaken. I'm sure the Lucy Connolly Appreciation Society just want to see justice done. Just like the Tommy Robinson Appreciation Society who will be praying for his swift release.

Confused

There isn't a 'LC appreciation society' just widespread condemnation of the heavy handedness with this case. We don't tend to lock up tweeters and no she wasn't telling people to burn others alive it was a throwaway unwise comment.

Maitri108 · 15/04/2025 18:54

Gloriia · 15/04/2025 18:49

Confused

There isn't a 'LC appreciation society' just widespread condemnation of the heavy handedness with this case. We don't tend to lock up tweeters and no she wasn't telling people to burn others alive it was a throwaway unwise comment.

Of course there's an appreciation society. For some reason, Lucy Connolly proud racist and inciter of violence, has touched people's hearts.

They're sticking their fingers in their ears and repeating the same nonsense over and over again hoping that the sane will get fed up and go away with their facts and sentencing guidelines.

We don't lock up Tweeters but you already know that, don't you. People such as lovely Lucy who pleaded guilty to inciting racial hatred, were locked up for committing crimes.

whippy1981 · 15/04/2025 19:00

Gloriia · 15/04/2025 18:49

Confused

There isn't a 'LC appreciation society' just widespread condemnation of the heavy handedness with this case. We don't tend to lock up tweeters and no she wasn't telling people to burn others alive it was a throwaway unwise comment.

How do you distinguish between a comment telling people to burn a group of individuals alive in hotels and a 'throwaway comment' telling people to set fire to a building with a group of individuals in it?

What is the difference between to two?

What would be the outcome of both events and how would they differ if someone followed both the burn live comment and the 'throwaway comment'?

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/04/2025 19:17

Remember kids, don't incite hatred and violence. It's a crime!

Mumble12 · 15/04/2025 19:48

Gloriia · 15/04/2025 18:49

Confused

There isn't a 'LC appreciation society' just widespread condemnation of the heavy handedness with this case. We don't tend to lock up tweeters and no she wasn't telling people to burn others alive it was a throwaway unwise comment.

I genuinely don’t know if you’re being deliberately obtuse or you really don’t understand the law?

A judge can ONLY impose a sentence within the framework available. There was no option to be heavy handed with the sentence because he loves asylum seekers and hates white women.

Ill advised or not, she plead guilty, leaving him with only a certain starting point for the sentence. I wouldn’t be pleading guilty to a crime I hadn’t committed 🤷

also on a separate note, I’ve just seen she wrote afterwards that she ‘was acting on what she now knew to be false information’, if the Southport killer had been an asylum seeker, is she suggesting that would have justified inciting racial hatred?

She also said the crime just reminded her ‘so much of my own beautiful daughter’, no mention of her deceased son. Lots of parents with similar aged children managed to not tweet about burning down dwellings, so I’m not sure there’s much in the way of mitigation there tbh.

Clavinova · 15/04/2025 20:11

Further to my post on the Home Affairs Committee Report released yesterday, the report states there were;

135 arrests and 35 injuries to police officers during the Black Lives Matter protests - whereas on 15 June 2020, the Home Secretary said;

' ... in total around 100 officers, three horses and one police dog have been injured in all protests since Mr Floyd’s death.'

'So far, 280 arrests have been made across England and Wales.'

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