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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 19:22

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 19:19

He was referencing a scene from a TV series. I would equate it if there were mobs outside her house and he said they should burn it down.

ETA I agree that what he said was despicable but wasn't surprised.

Edited

It doesn't really matter where it's from, he incited people, with his massive reach, to do that to her, and he got no punishment at all, which I think is wrong.

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 19:23

And yes, Lucy Connolly’s sentence was longer than some of the actual rioters

As has been said many times, her sentence started at 3 years for the offence she pled guilty to. She actually had time taken off due to other factors.

Mumble12 · 13/04/2025 19:27

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 19:21

Yep I mean surely that's inciting violence. Lock her up!

So lock her up, but release LC? Got it ✔️

Either you’re for inciting violence or you aren’t

AzurePanda · 13/04/2025 19:29

Umm I suspect @Gloriia was being ironic….

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 19:29

Mumble12 · 13/04/2025 19:27

So lock her up, but release LC? Got it ✔️

Either you’re for inciting violence or you aren’t

Well no. Either lock people up for 'inciting violence' or don't but to pick and choose depending on who is doing the inciting is not consistent. Is it?

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/04/2025 19:36

AzurePanda · 13/04/2025 19:20

@WhenYouSayNothingAtAll indeed, and for that matter what about the man who made persistent, detailed and specific online threats to kill JK Rowling and Rosie Duffield. A short suspended sentence. Quite extraordinary given the murder of two sitting MP’s in recent years.

And yes, Lucy Connolly’s sentence was longer than some of the actual rioters.

You want my honest opinion? Yes he should’ve gotten longer, much longer. I actually believe a lot of people should be imprisoned for “just words” or “just tweets” on both sides of various “debates “. Funnily enough , a lot of posters on this thread disagree with that.

As for LC , I don’t think she was made an example out of. I don’t believe she’s some sweet , innocent victim in a moment of trauma induced madness. I believe that she was given the correct sentence for the crime (of that severity) that she pled guilty to. I actually said before a lesser charge would’ve probably been a community order. That wasn’t what she pled guilty to though. I also said that I believe at a trial she had pretty high chances of being found not guilty. If the appeal is successful and the previous charge is quashed and a different sentence is given(according to the guidelines) , I’ll support that too. Ironically, even if it’s fine, community order, suspended or whatever .

Mumble12 · 13/04/2025 21:25

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 19:29

Well no. Either lock people up for 'inciting violence' or don't but to pick and choose depending on who is doing the inciting is not consistent. Is it?

No one here is picking and choosing. I didn’t see a single person prior to you saying “please don’t lock up Jo Brand”.

The whataboutery isn’t relevant. As I said before someone getting away with a similar crime doesn’t change whether or not hers was a crime, sentenced within the guidelines.

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 21:38

AzurePanda · 13/04/2025 08:28

@whippy1981 have you ever experienced anything like the grief of losing a child?

She doesn’t have kids

whippy1981 · 13/04/2025 21:40

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 21:38

She doesn’t have kids

I already said this. Never have had kids, never will have kids.

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 21:42

AzurePanda · 13/04/2025 08:28

@whippy1981 have you ever experienced anything like the grief of losing a child?

But she sure has a lot of opinions on how she thinks a grieving mother should act 😂

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 21:43

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/04/2025 23:44

So if your child died your instinct would be to wish death upon others?

sorry but no, you’re “gross”.

Your gross. Leave my children out of it

whippy1981 · 13/04/2025 21:56

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 21:42

But she sure has a lot of opinions on how she thinks a grieving mother should act 😂

There is a difference between trauma and criminal behaviour. Trauma doesn't cause criminal behaviour. Choices do. You can suffer trauma and still be a criminal and behave badly. In this day and age people assume trauma means you can act and do as you please and have an excuse. Does it hell and it is also using stereotypes which are harmful. Most trauma responses you wouldn't even notice.

Given most people in the world have suffered trauma then should all be let off the hook because excuses are like arseholes in your world?

I completely have an opinion that no one should tell someone else that it is acceptable to burn people alive and then pretend it is because of your trauma you said it. I think it is pretty sick to say you want to use a dead baby as an excuse to get off the hook.

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 22:02

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/04/2025 23:44

So if your child died your instinct would be to wish death upon others?

sorry but no, you’re “gross”.

There’s a difference between wishing someone dead and actually going out to kill them because you want them dead. You’re such a drama Queen

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 22:34

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 22:02

There’s a difference between wishing someone dead and actually going out to kill them because you want them dead. You’re such a drama Queen

You should have represented her.

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 23:02

whippy1981 · 13/04/2025 08:23

Her child died 10 years ago and wasn't murdered. Knee jerk suggests it is involuntary and she had no control over it.

“Her child died 10 years ago” silly woman why isn’t she over it by now 🙄

nomas · 13/04/2025 23:05

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 23:02

“Her child died 10 years ago” silly woman why isn’t she over it by now 🙄

How can you have a knee jerk reaction to something that happened 10 years ago? Do you know what knee jerk means?

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 23:08

whippy1981 · 13/04/2025 21:56

There is a difference between trauma and criminal behaviour. Trauma doesn't cause criminal behaviour. Choices do. You can suffer trauma and still be a criminal and behave badly. In this day and age people assume trauma means you can act and do as you please and have an excuse. Does it hell and it is also using stereotypes which are harmful. Most trauma responses you wouldn't even notice.

Given most people in the world have suffered trauma then should all be let off the hook because excuses are like arseholes in your world?

I completely have an opinion that no one should tell someone else that it is acceptable to burn people alive and then pretend it is because of your trauma you said it. I think it is pretty sick to say you want to use a dead baby as an excuse to get off the hook.

I never said the death of her child was an excuse for the tweet, I said I have a huge amount of sympathy for what’s she’s been through and that the death of children is probably very triggering for her. She even said something along the lines of “I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure”

Comprehension is not your thing

whippy1981 · 13/04/2025 23:11

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 23:02

“Her child died 10 years ago” silly woman why isn’t she over it by now 🙄

Why do you think she should've been over it by now? Clearly you do not understand trauma!

whippy1981 · 13/04/2025 23:18

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 23:08

I never said the death of her child was an excuse for the tweet, I said I have a huge amount of sympathy for what’s she’s been through and that the death of children is probably very triggering for her. She even said something along the lines of “I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure”

Comprehension is not your thing

The death of ones by people she hates of course coincidentally never ones that die in the place her child did or by incompetent NHS staff that would make much more sense but no, just ones that she can show off her hatred of other ethnicities.

This is not someone being triggered at all. This is someone using their dead child as an excuse.

That line means she has empathy not triggered. The two are different. If she was triggered by this why was she not triggered by stories about kids dying on the NHS like Lucy Letby for example? Ahh but she wouldn't want to burn her alive as she is white! Oddly that she was never triggered by her so much she wanted to burn down hospitals with Lucy inside? Weird eh?

Also why do you think triggered means bad behaviour? Triggered means a response to trauma. She was not responding to trauma, she was committing a crime. You are using stereotypes of what you think people do when 'triggered' which shows you have little understanding of trauma responses.

But she doesn't feel physically sick about what families would go through when their kids are burnt alive?

Comprehension is not lacking. Your understanding of trauma is. You think trauma makes people do things like this. Nope it absolutely does not.

Excuses are like arseholes - everyone has got one and they are usually full of shit! Yours is it seems just like hers was!

whippy1981 · 13/04/2025 23:25

nomas · 13/04/2025 23:05

How can you have a knee jerk reaction to something that happened 10 years ago? Do you know what knee jerk means?

I don't think comprehension is their thing! 😂

Mumble12 · 13/04/2025 23:26

Boredofbeinganadult · 13/04/2025 21:42

But she sure has a lot of opinions on how she thinks a grieving mother should act 😂

I have kids, does that allow me to have an opinion? A grieving mother doesn’t get a free pass to call for the burning of other people.

Boredofbeinganadult · 14/04/2025 01:55

Gloriia · 10/04/2025 18:21

No different to extremists shouting kill the infidels. Saying bad stuff doesn't mean you're telling people to do it or want others to, it's just knee jerk offensive attacks.

If she'd posted 'meet me at the travel lodge at 8pm bring petrol bombs' yes I'd understand the sentence.

exactly 👏👏👏

Boredofbeinganadult · 14/04/2025 01:59

Mumble12 · 13/04/2025 23:26

I have kids, does that allow me to have an opinion? A grieving mother doesn’t get a free pass to call for the burning of other people.

Can you not read? I never said it was a “free pass”

Boredofbeinganadult · 14/04/2025 02:16

nomas · 13/04/2025 23:05

How can you have a knee jerk reaction to something that happened 10 years ago? Do you know what knee jerk means?

When did I ever say “knee jerk reaction”

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 06:45

whippy1981 · 13/04/2025 23:25

I don't think comprehension is their thing! 😂

The knee jerk reaction wasn't due to a tragedy 10yrs ago though was it, it was a reaction to something that had just happened. Yet you sneeringly talk about comprehension..

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