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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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Gloriia · 14/04/2025 06:48

Mumble12 · 13/04/2025 21:25

No one here is picking and choosing. I didn’t see a single person prior to you saying “please don’t lock up Jo Brand”.

The whataboutery isn’t relevant. As I said before someone getting away with a similar crime doesn’t change whether or not hers was a crime, sentenced within the guidelines.

I'm talking about the police obviously, not mumsnetters Confused.

Either arrest, charge and bang up all those making nasty coments/'inciting violence' or don't. But to pick and choose depending on what the agenda is, is indeed 2 tier policing.

Mumble12 · 14/04/2025 06:56

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 06:48

I'm talking about the police obviously, not mumsnetters Confused.

Either arrest, charge and bang up all those making nasty coments/'inciting violence' or don't. But to pick and choose depending on what the agenda is, is indeed 2 tier policing.

What’re the tiers? They’re both white women?

As I said not everyone who commits a crime will be brought to justice, but anyone who is caught can be punished within the guidelines. Which she was. The fact that someone else ‘got away with something similar’ bears 0 relevance to her sentence.

AzurePanda · 14/04/2025 08:06

@Mumble12 yes but one of them was inciting violence against a right wing hate figure. That’s the point.

Dumbdog · 14/04/2025 09:06

AzurePanda · 14/04/2025 08:06

@Mumble12 yes but one of them was inciting violence against a right wing hate figure. That’s the point.

Don’t be ridiculous. Jo Brand made an unacceptable joke on a show that is created to push the line on what is acceptable (it’s called Heresy, FFS). She immediately (as in the next breath, not 4 hours later) clarified that she would never do such a thing to make it clear (for the thickos in the back) that it was a joke, not an instruction.

The programme will have been cleared by the BBC lawyers as they all are, and it hasn’t fallen foul of any laws despite a lot of scrutiny post broadcast.

If you can’t understand the difference in context - which is relevant with regards intent - it’s just as well you aren’t in charge of our laws.

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 09:12

'She immediately (as in the next breath, not 4 hours later) clarified that she would never do such a thing to make it clear (for the thickos in the back) that it was a joke, not an instruction.'

'For the thickos in the back'? What a delightful way of trying to debate.

Her apology was sarcastic as you know. LC's comment wasn't an instruction either, it was a nasty throwaway comment that she deleted,

derxa · 14/04/2025 09:17

Dumbdog · 14/04/2025 09:06

Don’t be ridiculous. Jo Brand made an unacceptable joke on a show that is created to push the line on what is acceptable (it’s called Heresy, FFS). She immediately (as in the next breath, not 4 hours later) clarified that she would never do such a thing to make it clear (for the thickos in the back) that it was a joke, not an instruction.

The programme will have been cleared by the BBC lawyers as they all are, and it hasn’t fallen foul of any laws despite a lot of scrutiny post broadcast.

If you can’t understand the difference in context - which is relevant with regards intent - it’s just as well you aren’t in charge of our laws.

I listened to that programme’live’ on the radio. It was absolutely shocking. It wasn’t funny and should never have been broadcast. During the recent GE campaign someone threw a milkshake over Farage. I think the girl was prosecuted but not jailed.

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 09:18

'The programme will have been cleared by the BBC lawyers as they all are, and it hasn’t fallen foul of any laws despite a lot of scrutiny post broadcast.'

Oh well if the BBC say its ok it must be Grin.

Maitri108 · 14/04/2025 09:24

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 09:12

'She immediately (as in the next breath, not 4 hours later) clarified that she would never do such a thing to make it clear (for the thickos in the back) that it was a joke, not an instruction.'

'For the thickos in the back'? What a delightful way of trying to debate.

Her apology was sarcastic as you know. LC's comment wasn't an instruction either, it was a nasty throwaway comment that she deleted,

12. In relation to your culpability this is clearly a category A case – as both
prosecution and your counsel agree, because you intended to incite
serious violence.

If I wrote something absolutely reprehensible that I regretted, I'd delete it immediately. I'd have also deleted all the other racist knee jerk remarks I'd written about asylum seekers.

Dumbdog · 14/04/2025 09:35

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 09:12

'She immediately (as in the next breath, not 4 hours later) clarified that she would never do such a thing to make it clear (for the thickos in the back) that it was a joke, not an instruction.'

'For the thickos in the back'? What a delightful way of trying to debate.

Her apology was sarcastic as you know. LC's comment wasn't an instruction either, it was a nasty throwaway comment that she deleted,

I’d believe it was an ill-judged throwaway comment had she not made other racist posts before and after that one, nor LOL’d about it and how she was going to play the mental health card to get away with it.

I’m not interested in ‘debating’ people who want to defend racists.

If LC didn’t mean it to be an instruction, why did she plead guilty to the charge of intent?

Perhaps she’s one of the aforementioned thickos in the back…

Dumbdog · 14/04/2025 09:38

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 09:18

'The programme will have been cleared by the BBC lawyers as they all are, and it hasn’t fallen foul of any laws despite a lot of scrutiny post broadcast.'

Oh well if the BBC say its ok it must be Grin.

GB News all the way for you?

For all its failings in protecting women from sexual harassment, the BBC is a world class PSB. It’s going to be a tragedy when it is superseded by partisan channels.

AzurePanda · 14/04/2025 09:44

Why did she plead guilty @Dumbdog ? Because she was (unbelievably) denied bail, locked up with offenders who were waiting months if not years for a trial date and was wrongly advised that as a first time offender who had deleted the tweet she would be highly unlikely to face a custodial sentence.

The appeal rests on the argument that the judge mis categorised her offence. Given the absence of persistence in her threats to incite violence, it looks as though it has a good chance of succeeding.

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 09:46

Dumbdog · 14/04/2025 09:38

GB News all the way for you?

For all its failings in protecting women from sexual harassment, the BBC is a world class PSB. It’s going to be a tragedy when it is superseded by partisan channels.

I watch a variety of channels thanks.

The BBC are hardly leading lights when it comes to their handling of serious issues are they.

Maitri108 · 14/04/2025 09:47

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 09:46

I watch a variety of channels thanks.

The BBC are hardly leading lights when it comes to their handling of serious issues are they.

Who is?

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 09:48

'Why did she plead guilty ? Because she was (unbelievably) denied bail, locked up with offenders who were waiting months if not years for a trial date and was wrongly advised that as a first time offender who had deleted the tweet she would be highly unlikely to face a custodial sentence.'

Exactly. Some folk need to put their pitchforks down.

Maitri108 · 14/04/2025 09:49

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 09:48

'Why did she plead guilty ? Because she was (unbelievably) denied bail, locked up with offenders who were waiting months if not years for a trial date and was wrongly advised that as a first time offender who had deleted the tweet she would be highly unlikely to face a custodial sentence.'

Exactly. Some folk need to put their pitchforks down.

That's ironic.

Dumbdog · 14/04/2025 09:55

AzurePanda · 14/04/2025 09:44

Why did she plead guilty @Dumbdog ? Because she was (unbelievably) denied bail, locked up with offenders who were waiting months if not years for a trial date and was wrongly advised that as a first time offender who had deleted the tweet she would be highly unlikely to face a custodial sentence.

The appeal rests on the argument that the judge mis categorised her offence. Given the absence of persistence in her threats to incite violence, it looks as though it has a good chance of succeeding.

If only there was a way she could have looked at the sentencing guidelines for the crime she was admitting to.

Shame she wasn’t someone who used the internet much.

How do you explain the link to Tyler Kay? He copied her tweet almost verbatim, used ‘stand with Lucy Connolly’ as a hashtag and also tweeted specific instructions for unrest.

So here we have a very clear link between LC’s original tweet and someone who repeated it and took it further.

I’d say that’s clearly someone who has been incited by LC.

Walkden · 14/04/2025 10:02

" it was a nasty throwaway comment that she deleted,"

As the sentencing comments from the judge made clear, this was not because she was remorseful , regretted the sentiment or thought it was wrong, but she probably saw how often it had been retweeted and realised she might get in hot water for it ( or paraphrasing her own words "bite her on the ass , lol"

whippy1981 · 14/04/2025 10:05

Gloriia · 14/04/2025 06:45

The knee jerk reaction wasn't due to a tragedy 10yrs ago though was it, it was a reaction to something that had just happened. Yet you sneeringly talk about comprehension..

It wasn't a knee jerk to something that happened though was it? As she already had that hatred for this group of people so that had already been shown. Again not understanding what the words mean!

AzurePanda · 14/04/2025 10:07

@Dumbdog as I said, her appeal is expected to be based on the contention that the judge miscategorised her offence.

To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?
Maitri108 · 14/04/2025 10:13

whippy1981 · 14/04/2025 10:05

It wasn't a knee jerk to something that happened though was it? As she already had that hatred for this group of people so that had already been shown. Again not understanding what the words mean!

She also followed Tommy Robinson and commented on his posts. Most notably:

"Somalian I guess" followed by a vomiting emoji.

Anyone would think she was just a racist, not a political martyr.

Dumbdog · 14/04/2025 10:20

She was also advised by ‘top barristers’ (according to the Telegraph) to plead not guilty.

Her husband also advised her to plead not guilty.

But she disregarded the advice and pled guilty to a crime that has a minimum 3 year sentence.

It’s hard not to have sympathy for her when you read Pearson’s biased article, and my god I feel so dreadfully sorry for her after what happened to her baby.

But she called for the burning alive of people who themselves are fleeing unimaginable trauma and bigotry.

AzurePanda · 14/04/2025 10:21

@Maitri108 I don’t think anyone here is arguing that she isn’t a racist.

Maitri108 · 14/04/2025 10:25

AzurePanda · 14/04/2025 10:21

@Maitri108 I don’t think anyone here is arguing that she isn’t a racist.

Why are you defending a racist and why this particular one?

AzurePanda · 14/04/2025 10:34

@Maitri108 I’m not defending a racist. I am expressing my opinion on the perceived unfairness of our justice system. I would feel the same if some of those pro Palestinian protestors had been incarcerated for calling for the genocide of Jews (unlikely I know).

Dumbdog · 14/04/2025 10:34

Maitri108 · 14/04/2025 10:25

Why are you defending a racist and why this particular one?

Worse than defending a racist, people are seeking to undermine the justice system that has held her to account.

‘Just a tweet’

Once LC had pled guilty - against the advice of several barristers contacted by her husband - the judge was required to abide by the sentencing guidelines that have (according to a PP) been in place since Thatcher.

Do people really want the sentences for inciting racial hatred and violence to be reduced?!

That’s vile.

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