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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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Mumble12 · 13/04/2025 18:32

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 17:53

'She has form for arrogance. “The tweet bit me in the arse LOL”. Planning to “play the mental health card if they arrest me”.'

That isn't arrogance, it is regret with a bit of self mockery chucked in.

There are far worse people saying much more offensive stuff online.

What other people do/did online isn’t relevant to her.

Someone who is pulled over for doing 40mph
in a 30, can’t get off the hook by saying “yeah but that guys doing 45”.

You may not like it but her crime was a crime, written in law. The sentencing guidelines are there for all to see, before deciding to commit a crime. Whether or not people are usually let off for what you perceive to be similar offences doesn’t change the fact that she committed a crime. If she was too dense to know it was a crime, that’s on her.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 18:34

From another thread:

In the column, Clarkson wrote that he was "dreaming of the day when [Meghan] is made to parade naked through the streets of every town in Britain while crowds chant, 'Shame!' and throw lumps of excrement at her".

I cannot believe that Clarkson wrote that and that it got published.
How come someone with a huge platform like Clarkson is allowed to incite violence against a public figure like Meghan with no legal consequences, but Lucy Connolly ends up in jail for incitement? Even though she clearly wrote her tweet in a moment of high passion, quickly deleted it, and has nothing like the reach of Clarkson?

The media in general have done a lot to whip up hate towards Harry and Meghan. It gives the crazies "permission," in their minds, to hurt them. I suspect the only reason they haven't been is because of good security.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 18:35

I disagree with the judge that Connolly intended to incite serious violence. It seems pretty obvious to me that she wrote the tweet while highly triggered and upset, went for a walk and calmed down, and then deleted it and wrote that violence is not the answer.

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 18:36

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 18:35

I disagree with the judge that Connolly intended to incite serious violence. It seems pretty obvious to me that she wrote the tweet while highly triggered and upset, went for a walk and calmed down, and then deleted it and wrote that violence is not the answer.

Then why did she say that was her intention?

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/04/2025 18:37

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 17:53

'She has form for arrogance. “The tweet bit me in the arse LOL”. Planning to “play the mental health card if they arrest me”.'

That isn't arrogance, it is regret with a bit of self mockery chucked in.

There are far worse people saying much more offensive stuff online.

Why are you ignoring the childminding bit? Because you can’t use your mental gymnastics to put a positive “she’s the real victim here” spin on it?

All those things show a pattern of behaviour and personality. Reckless and arrogant. Isn’t this all just a big joke?

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 18:38

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 17:56

The people in the hotels people tried to set light to were probably terrified. Connolly seems to have a lot of kindred spirits.

She doesn't have kindred spirits. Not one person has supported her comments, rather tried to suggest that perspective is needed.

I believe some of the actual rioters got 2yrs and less. How on earth is that right, she wasn't even there just made a throwaway remark.

Is there any evidence that anyone actually acted on her comments? Her comments, not instructions.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/04/2025 18:39

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 17:53

'She has form for arrogance. “The tweet bit me in the arse LOL”. Planning to “play the mental health card if they arrest me”.'

That isn't arrogance, it is regret with a bit of self mockery chucked in.

There are far worse people saying much more offensive stuff online.

There’s no regret or self mockery in there. Come on, at least try to be a bit realistic in your assertions.

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 18:42

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 18:38

She doesn't have kindred spirits. Not one person has supported her comments, rather tried to suggest that perspective is needed.

I believe some of the actual rioters got 2yrs and less. How on earth is that right, she wasn't even there just made a throwaway remark.

Is there any evidence that anyone actually acted on her comments? Her comments, not instructions.

Edited

Everyone sticking up for her is a kindred spirit. You can obviously sympathise with her views and imagine being in the same position yourself. Pearson said that the riots were understandable and she's a political prisoner.

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 18:46

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 18:42

Everyone sticking up for her is a kindred spirit. You can obviously sympathise with her views and imagine being in the same position yourself. Pearson said that the riots were understandable and she's a political prisoner.

I don't sympathise with her views, I sympathise with her making a nasty throwaway comment and getting 31 months whilst actual rioters got less. Our judicial system is ridiculous.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 18:47

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 18:36

Then why did she say that was her intention?

Did she say that? You mean, in another message? I wasn't aware of that.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 18:50

@Maitri108 Do you think that Clarkson should have got a jail sentence for the absolutely vile thing he published against Meghan? I don't think he or Connolly should have got jail sentences, but I do think that both should have been prosecuted, given suspended sentences, and made to do 100 hours community service.

It bothers me that Connolly is behind bars while Clarkson wasn't even prosecuted for inciting some really sick violence against Meghan - especially when you consider his enormous reach.

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 18:50

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 18:46

I don't sympathise with her views, I sympathise with her making a nasty throwaway comment and getting 31 months whilst actual rioters got less. Our judicial system is ridiculous.

Surely you're concerned about all those imprisoned for 'throw away' comments - even though you've been told many times that she has a history of online racism.

All those political prisoners locked up for having a point of view. Which other political prisoners do you empathise with?

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/04/2025 18:52

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 18:46

I don't sympathise with her views, I sympathise with her making a nasty throwaway comment and getting 31 months whilst actual rioters got less. Our judicial system is ridiculous.

At least 200 people have already been sentenced, with most sent to jail. Some individuals received multiple sentences.
The average prison sentence length was two years.
However, some cases have involved community orders, fines or younger people being sent to young-offender institutions.

Also, she won’t actually serve the 31 months.

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 18:57

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 18:50

@Maitri108 Do you think that Clarkson should have got a jail sentence for the absolutely vile thing he published against Meghan? I don't think he or Connolly should have got jail sentences, but I do think that both should have been prosecuted, given suspended sentences, and made to do 100 hours community service.

It bothers me that Connolly is behind bars while Clarkson wasn't even prosecuted for inciting some really sick violence against Meghan - especially when you consider his enormous reach.

Edited

Unfortunately when it comes to Markle, she has a tsunami of hate directed at her in the press and online. I believe there have been prosecutions and she has experienced death threats.

Clarkson said (if I remember correctly) that he wanted to see her paraded naked publically and people throw crap at her.

I don't equate that to someone calling for occupied buildings to be set alight on the eve of racist riots.

However, I do think the press and government contributed towards what happened because of their dehumanising language and because the press have been printing divisive crap.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/04/2025 18:59

Around 90 adults have been sentenced so far for their part in the recent riots which gripped towns and cities in England and Northern Ireland.
Eight of those have received custodial sentences of three years or more, while three-quarters of people have got more than a year of jail time.
The severity of sentences ranges from community orders and fines at the lower end, to the longest term so far of six years for David Wilkinson, 48, for his role in the Hull disorder.
He was a prominent member of the "baying mob" which forced three terrified Romanian men from their car.
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John Honey, 25, who went viral online for his looting rampage of Lush, O2 and Shoezone in Hull while wearing an England flag shirt, received four years and eight months behind bars.
There was also a hefty sentence of three years and four months for 44-year-old Gareth Metcalfe, for his involvement in rioting outside a mosque in his hometown of Southport on 30 July.
Metcalfe, who the prosecution describes as having entrenched racist views, was at the forefront of the violence in Southport, and has 21 previous convictions including for racially and religiously aggravated offences.

Among them, the longest jail terms were for 18-year-old Kenzie Roughley and 19-year-old Drew Jarvis.
Roughley was sentenced to two years and four months for kicking a police van outside an asylum hotel in Rotherham, while Jarvis received a three-year term for hurling bricks and lit arrows at police during the same riot on 4 August.
This only includes sentences of adult offenders who have been named in court. Convicted children under the age of 18 have not been named for legal reasons, including boys as young as 12 years old.
Only five of those sentenced so far are aged 60 or older.
At 69, the oldest is William Nelson Morgan who has received a sentence of two years and eight months for his part in the disorder on 3 August in his local area of Walton, which resulted in the destruction of Spellow Library, whilst being in possession of a wooden cosh.
Sentences were handed down for 104 offences, as 17 offenders were charged with more than one offence.

One in 10 charges, where sentences were handed down, related to online communications. This includes 53-year-old "keyboard warrior" Julie Sweeney's 15-month term for publishing material to stir up racial hatred.
She posted on Facebook: "Don't protect the mosques, blow the mosque up with the adults in it".

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 19:00

She posted on Facebook: "Don't protect the mosques, blow the mosque up with the adults in it".

Another knee jerk reaction from a lovely lady who wouldn't hurt a fly.

AzurePanda · 13/04/2025 19:09

What about Jo Brand suggesting people should throw battery acid over Nigel Farage - should she be in prison?

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 19:15

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 19:00

She posted on Facebook: "Don't protect the mosques, blow the mosque up with the adults in it".

Another knee jerk reaction from a lovely lady who wouldn't hurt a fly.

She did? Gosh. So her tweet wasn't just one moment of triggered upset, then?

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/04/2025 19:15

AzurePanda · 13/04/2025 19:09

What about Jo Brand suggesting people should throw battery acid over Nigel Farage - should she be in prison?

What about
what about
what about?

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 19:17

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 18:57

Unfortunately when it comes to Markle, she has a tsunami of hate directed at her in the press and online. I believe there have been prosecutions and she has experienced death threats.

Clarkson said (if I remember correctly) that he wanted to see her paraded naked publically and people throw crap at her.

I don't equate that to someone calling for occupied buildings to be set alight on the eve of racist riots.

However, I do think the press and government contributed towards what happened because of their dehumanising language and because the press have been printing divisive crap.

I would equate it, because Clarkson has a massive reach, and because he may not have called for many to be treated that way, but one person being incited against is still one too many.

And also, shame on the publication who printed it. It's wrong that neither Clarkson nor them experienced any consequences, imo.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/04/2025 19:18

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 19:15

She did? Gosh. So her tweet wasn't just one moment of triggered upset, then?

Different woman.

I do wonder why LC is getting so much special attention? Is because of who she is or because she makes a sympathetic victim of the “system “ , still “playing mental health card”.

Because if we’re asking what about, what about all the other men and women convicted for a tweet(or ten)? Why isn’t there as much defence and outrage on their behalf?

Maitri108 · 13/04/2025 19:19

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 19:17

I would equate it, because Clarkson has a massive reach, and because he may not have called for many to be treated that way, but one person being incited against is still one too many.

And also, shame on the publication who printed it. It's wrong that neither Clarkson nor them experienced any consequences, imo.

Edited

He was referencing a scene from a TV series. I would equate it if there were mobs outside her house and he said they should burn it down.

ETA I agree that what he said was despicable but wasn't surprised.

AzurePanda · 13/04/2025 19:20

@WhenYouSayNothingAtAll indeed, and for that matter what about the man who made persistent, detailed and specific online threats to kill JK Rowling and Rosie Duffield. A short suspended sentence. Quite extraordinary given the murder of two sitting MP’s in recent years.

And yes, Lucy Connolly’s sentence was longer than some of the actual rioters.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 13/04/2025 19:21

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 13/04/2025 19:18

Different woman.

I do wonder why LC is getting so much special attention? Is because of who she is or because she makes a sympathetic victim of the “system “ , still “playing mental health card”.

Because if we’re asking what about, what about all the other men and women convicted for a tweet(or ten)? Why isn’t there as much defence and outrage on their behalf?

I thought we were talking about LC.

For me, LC is only getting my attention because it's been drawn to her. If other people were imprisoned for one emotional tweet that they soon deleted, I'd feel the same. Which is not to say they shouldn't have been prosecuted and punished - they should have been, imo. Suspended sentence, fine, and many hours of community service.

But I so think jail time is appropriate where someone has a history of posting such things and letting them stand.

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 19:21

AzurePanda · 13/04/2025 19:09

What about Jo Brand suggesting people should throw battery acid over Nigel Farage - should she be in prison?

Yep I mean surely that's inciting violence. Lock her up!

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