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AIBU?

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DD friend is a furry/therian. Trying to encourage (strongly) my DD to be the same.

575 replies

Sockmate123 · 06/04/2025 18:04

What would you do in this situation? Child in class is 'recruiting' other children (mainly very quiet children) to be furries. She says she is a therian and presents as a wolf. School has banned her wearing wolf items to school but she still does on party days/world book day/non uniform etc
Parents seem to do littke about it
Quite older parents. Children are 10. My DD has so far not engaged but likes the child involved but is being pressured. It was her birthday recently and friend bought her a tail 🙄

I think this is completely weird. Child digs holes at lunch time, barks at people etc cute/acceptable up until age 5 or 6 but not girls that are on the cusp of puberty!

AIBU?
Yes- she's only a kid, will spon grow out of it.
No - its weird, school and parents should do more to address it

OP posts:
Chersfrozenface · 08/04/2025 16:21

Lostcat · 08/04/2025 15:25

The point is they are just a normal community of people, like any other community - they are not a threat to children in schools any more than gay people were a threat to children in schools n the 80s.
It's just the latest moral panic.

Edited

Perhaps you should read about Scotiacon at the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Glasgow this year and the warnings the actual organisers had to issue about attendees' behaviour.

Or Rainfurrest 2015.

Normal community, eh?

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 16:23

crumblingschools · 08/04/2025 15:23

@Lostcat that article although starting off about concerns with children and Furries then just really talks about the adult side of Furries, admittedly not the Fetish side. But talks about conventions, social media groups etc. Would you want a Primary school aged child on a chat group with adult Furries?

Also Therian is different to Furries, as they do identify with their character

It's like any hobby. My kid likes golf. "But would you like them on a website with adult golfers?" It's an odd approach to hobbies.

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 16:24

Gffgdc · 08/04/2025 15:34

At some point though a person should act normal?

Genuinely, why? To avoid being bullied? See above. Not bullying is the answer to stopping bullying.

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 16:26

Chersfrozenface · 08/04/2025 16:21

Perhaps you should read about Scotiacon at the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Glasgow this year and the warnings the actual organisers had to issue about attendees' behaviour.

Or Rainfurrest 2015.

Normal community, eh?

Have you ever seen the behaviour of football fans? Do you discourage your children from watching football matches?

StrangerThings1 · 08/04/2025 16:33

Randomworkmoan · 06/04/2025 18:11

You didn't enable voting but yanbu, the school should be doing more. There is a cat in our local school, I mean it's insanity and definitely needs to be stopped, the world has gone mad that this is in any way tolerated. Digging holes at lunch time ffs, a tail as a birthday present, stop the planet, I want to get off

Completely agree, what kind of parent would encourage this in a 10yo, and they are encouraging it if they are buying tails for friends birthday presents

Chersfrozenface · 08/04/2025 16:37

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 16:26

Have you ever seen the behaviour of football fans? Do you discourage your children from watching football matches?

The warnings included not exhibiting artworks depicting paedophilia, described as "cub porn", or humans having sex with animals.

Not by and large a problem with football fans.

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 08/04/2025 16:47

Being a furry was a fetish long before the kids of today started doing it.
There was an episode of CSI that was first shown in 2003 called Fur and Loathing about orgies at furry conventions.
This isn't about people taking over a kid's hobby and making it a fetish, it was a fetish from the start.

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 17:18

Chersfrozenface · 08/04/2025 16:37

The warnings included not exhibiting artworks depicting paedophilia, described as "cub porn", or humans having sex with animals.

Not by and large a problem with football fans.

Who do you think commits more sexual assaults, including of children?

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 17:19

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 08/04/2025 16:47

Being a furry was a fetish long before the kids of today started doing it.
There was an episode of CSI that was first shown in 2003 called Fur and Loathing about orgies at furry conventions.
This isn't about people taking over a kid's hobby and making it a fetish, it was a fetish from the start.

It's also a kids' hobby.

Flopsy145 · 08/04/2025 17:23

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 16:11

That's great, it seems you do understand pretending. This girl is pretending to be a wolf. Does that help?

Op has said she is identifying as a wolf/therian. Not pretending every now and then. I'm only going on what op has said..

Flopsy145 · 08/04/2025 17:25

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 16:12

"Deranged fantasies"? She's playing at being a wolf. What are you finding deranged in pretend play?

Edited

Deranged.
"adjective
adjective: deranged
mad; insane."

I stand by my use of the word 😂

LovelySG · 08/04/2025 17:27

It’s weird and a total turn-off.
Havd a word with the parents, return the tail and discourage the friendship.

Gffgdc · 08/04/2025 17:42

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 16:24

Genuinely, why? To avoid being bullied? See above. Not bullying is the answer to stopping bullying.

Because as a society we need normal people.

Chersfrozenface · 08/04/2025 18:01

Safer Schools has some advice on children and furries.
https://oursaferschools.co.uk/2023/04/24/furries/

Some very important points are about discussing reality and fantasy, what sort of behaviour is appropriate and respectful, online or offline, and remembering that anyone they interact with online may not be telling the truth about who they are and highlight the important difference between a fursona (an outward expression) and a real person.

I do hope that the girl's parents are doing that.

And I don't believe that trying to influence other children into identifying as furries constitutes appropriate behaviour.

user1471516498 · 08/04/2025 18:16

Never been so thankful for my stolidly unimaginative kids.

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 18:39

Gffgdc · 08/04/2025 17:42

Because as a society we need normal people.

Do we need all people to be "normal" or the same? Why?

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 18:40

user1471516498 · 08/04/2025 18:16

Never been so thankful for my stolidly unimaginative kids.

☹️

SquashedSquid · 08/04/2025 19:07

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 08/04/2025 16:47

Being a furry was a fetish long before the kids of today started doing it.
There was an episode of CSI that was first shown in 2003 called Fur and Loathing about orgies at furry conventions.
This isn't about people taking over a kid's hobby and making it a fetish, it was a fetish from the start.

People have had feet since, well, people. Most "Furries" are just cosplayers, like most people don't fantasise about feet.

crumblingschools · 08/04/2025 19:15

@SquashedSquid as a teacher would you have any safeguarding concerns about this young girl. Would you report anything on CPOMs or your equivalent?

SquashedSquid · 08/04/2025 19:36

No, because it's made up.

crumblingschools · 08/04/2025 19:41

@SquashedSquid and if it wasn’t?

ButterCrackers · 08/04/2025 19:42

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 18:39

Do we need all people to be "normal" or the same? Why?

How is a person who thinks that they are a non human creature going to manage later? What job will they do? Or do you think that others should work to support them with a life on benefits? Sounds quite cushy really.

scorpiogirly · 08/04/2025 19:44

I think what's going on at home should be looked at more closely

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 19:46

ButterCrackers · 08/04/2025 19:42

How is a person who thinks that they are a non human creature going to manage later? What job will they do? Or do you think that others should work to support them with a life on benefits? Sounds quite cushy really.

A 10 year old likes to think they are a wolf during lunch break, and you think this will lead to a lifetime of benefits?

This girl is likely neurodiverse and enjoying pretending to be a wolf to soothe herself and because it interests her. What would you suggest, taking away her harmless play?

DeskJotter · 08/04/2025 19:47

Furries, by and large, aren't unemployed, btw.

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