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Partner won't put me on deeds !!

136 replies

Stockgirl · 05/04/2025 18:24

Hi, my ex partner and i have been seeing each other for a couple of months to see if we can rescue our long term relationship (25 years)...he asked me to go back a few months ago and he said he'd put me on the deeds of the house..but after talking to him today he said he wanted to see where the relationship went before moving forward with that!!
This causes a massive problem for me because I think he doesn't see me has his equal...after everything I've put into the property I think I deserve something...am I being unreasonable? I can't see a way forward tbh if we can't get past this...

OP posts:
Sofiewoo · 06/04/2025 09:53

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 09:46

@Sofiewoo I know !! But me paying bills and buying food meant he could pay the mortgage, I'd rather of paid the mortgage because it would of been more beneficial tbh.

You paying half the bills didn’t “allow” him to pay the mortgage.
You lived in a house someone else owned, you paid less than you would have paid in rent, what do think you’re now “owed”??

faerietales · 06/04/2025 09:56

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 09:46

@Sofiewoo I know !! But me paying bills and buying food meant he could pay the mortgage, I'd rather of paid the mortgage because it would of been more beneficial tbh.

That's not how mortgages work.

He passed the affordability checks on his own salary/income - you paying your share of living expenses has nothing to do with him being able to pay his mortgage.

Superhansrantowindsor · 06/04/2025 09:58

Threads like these pop up every week. Please women - know your rights! Marriage isn’t just a piece of paper. It gives you protection against things like this. Heck - you don’t even need to get married - see a solicitor when cohabiting and make sure you have in place everything needed to protect yourself.
OP- walk away. You have no claim to his property at all.

SomethingFun · 06/04/2025 10:02

I’ve only read op and it sounds like people aren’t sympathetic. Op deeds, marriage or move on. I’m sorry a lifetime of looking after this man and raising the dc has left you with nothing. Please look after yourself.

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 10:03

@Sofiewoo You're right !! Legally i havent a leg to stand on , I guess some of us have more morals than others and would want the mother of their children living a higher standard of life than what she has now...but not everyone has the same moral compass.

OP posts:
Sofiewoo · 06/04/2025 10:06

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 10:03

@Sofiewoo You're right !! Legally i havent a leg to stand on , I guess some of us have more morals than others and would want the mother of their children living a higher standard of life than what she has now...but not everyone has the same moral compass.

It’s got nothing to do with morals!

Morally why do you think he should have to sell or remortgage his house to release money for you?

Morally he has to share the care and financial burden of his children, not his ex girlfriend in her new life.

faerietales · 06/04/2025 10:07

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 10:03

@Sofiewoo You're right !! Legally i havent a leg to stand on , I guess some of us have more morals than others and would want the mother of their children living a higher standard of life than what she has now...but not everyone has the same moral compass.

It's nothing to do with morals. Would you hand half your house over to him if you were in his position?

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 10:12

I would of put him on the deeds at the beginning of the relationship, he knows i dont want the house sold because of our son so it would be in name only.

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BurntBroccoli · 06/04/2025 11:58

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 18:44

You’ve been taken for a mug. You’ve improved a Hoise you had no claim to. You are on a hiding to nowhere.

walk away and start again and do not give your hard earned money to a wanker who will use it gif his own gains again.

Yes this!
Please do not get back with him. He was never invested in the relationship and should have put you on the deeds 25 years ago.

I don’t think you’ll get your money back unfortunately; it’s as though you were actually renting a property from him. A lot of people who rent spend lots of their own money on improvements but can’t get it back.

Spirallingdownwards · 06/04/2025 11:59

Stockgirl · 05/04/2025 20:58

@1SillySossij I didn't live rent free , all my wages went back into the house on bills and food, and I was a full time baby sitter for his kids!!

Bills and food is not money going into the house. It is going on bills and food which you would pay if you were renting.

Even then you say you paid half of these and he paid half.

He invested in his property. You may have a small claim for the doors but that's all your potential beneficial interest would be. If you want ask him to pay you back your outlay for that. And also take any furnishings you bought. The reality is (and hopefully young women reading this thread will take note and protect themselves financially if in similar circumstances) you don't have a legal interest in his house albeit you may have a small beneficial interest if you pursue it.

Spirallingdownwards · 06/04/2025 12:03

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 10:03

@Sofiewoo You're right !! Legally i havent a leg to stand on , I guess some of us have more morals than others and would want the mother of their children living a higher standard of life than what she has now...but not everyone has the same moral compass.

It is not morally anyone's obligation to financially support another adult other than their dependant spouse. You (as a couple) chose not to get married for whatever reason and chose to live as independent financial beings for the purpose of tax etc. Thus you didn't get the protection of marriage or civil partnership when splitting with regards to financial relief.

1SillySossij · 06/04/2025 12:07

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 10:03

@Sofiewoo You're right !! Legally i havent a leg to stand on , I guess some of us have more morals than others and would want the mother of their children living a higher standard of life than what she has now...but not everyone has the same moral compass.

But he's let you live their rent free, for 25years?

ThejoyofNC · 06/04/2025 12:08

1SillySossij · 06/04/2025 12:07

But he's let you live their rent free, for 25years?

OP thinks paying for half of bills and looking after her own kids is classed as paying rent..

Shopgirl1 · 06/04/2025 12:08

Did you contribute to the deposit for the house?

GiveDogBone · 06/04/2025 18:54

Stockgirl · 05/04/2025 18:24

Hi, my ex partner and i have been seeing each other for a couple of months to see if we can rescue our long term relationship (25 years)...he asked me to go back a few months ago and he said he'd put me on the deeds of the house..but after talking to him today he said he wanted to see where the relationship went before moving forward with that!!
This causes a massive problem for me because I think he doesn't see me has his equal...after everything I've put into the property I think I deserve something...am I being unreasonable? I can't see a way forward tbh if we can't get past this...

He’d have to be insane to put you on the deeds. Certifiably insane. Might as well just burn money to keep warm.

Isinglass20 · 06/04/2025 19:27

I’m afraid I dont understand why you left so he could have a ‘fulfilling relationship’ and then said ‘with only my clothes’.

You didn’t leave because of bad behaviour on his part.

You left and that is the legal point. You should not have left. If you were unhappy because you felt he was unreasonable in not putting you on the deeds with no recognition of what you had contributed then you should have done it then and not left and also abandoned your child who has Asperger’s.

Go to Shelter if you want confirmation that you have lost any legal right you might have had and do not instruct a solicitor who will string you along and then present the bill for legal fees.

Laura95167 · 06/04/2025 19:40

If I'd just broken up with you and we'd given it one last go I wouldn't add you to me deeds either.

What if you were only back to get the deeds. I'd be saying if in 6 months we're still good I will. Although I do wonder why it's been 25yrs and not already happened

CaptainFuture · 06/04/2025 19:47

ThejoyofNC · 06/04/2025 12:08

OP thinks paying for half of bills and looking after her own kids is classed as paying rent..

Only on mn is paying half towards your living costs is being deemed saintly and over the odds!!

AlwaysPerfumed · 06/04/2025 20:38

@Stockgirl
I understand that you are concerned for your boys but as they are over 21, your older son will be his next of kin and if he hasn't made a will, I think the house will go to him. Could you talk to your older son and reassure yourself that he will share with his younger brother?

However, you do say that you expect your ex partner to help you financially, so clearly it's not just the worry about your younger boy that is on your mind. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to give you a lump sum-maybe a deposit for a flat-could he raise it against the house?

Would he be willing to do this? I suppose a lot hinges on how you left. You say that you did it for the altruistic reason of allowing him to have a fulfilling relationship with someone else, although I don't get the impression that he had asked you to do this.

You also mention that the menopause "gave (you) a voice. Does this mean that were arguments, hurtful things said and bad feeling?

This might make appealing to his better nature difficult and I wonder if this bad feeling has continued and could this be a factor in his decision to delay putti g you on the deeds when he previously indicated that this might be an option.

If the relationship is now bitter and he thinks your "voice" was instrumental in causing the break up, then rightly or wrongly it will be difficult to persuade him to part with money, If however, you left for purely altruistic reasons then maybe he should remember this and treat you accordingly.

Horrible though it is, you are now reliant on how positive he feels towards you.

The only other thing I can suggest is that you ask your older son to speak for you.

Good luck!

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 20:48

@Isinglass20 That was one of the reasons I left , the main one was him having multiple messages to an ex girlfriend declaring her his soulmate and he always thought they'd end up together!!
I also didn't abandon my son!! I see him regularly and he's happy.

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Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 20:57

@AlwaysPerfumed Ideally I'd like some help so I can get my own place but I don't think he'll agree to that.
I think the menopause changed me in the way that I wouldn't argue or disagree with him before it but after it I stood up for myself.. I held alot of resentment in for so long that one day I couldn't do it anymore.

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Poppyseeds79 · 06/04/2025 21:05

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 20:57

@AlwaysPerfumed Ideally I'd like some help so I can get my own place but I don't think he'll agree to that.
I think the menopause changed me in the way that I wouldn't argue or disagree with him before it but after it I stood up for myself.. I held alot of resentment in for so long that one day I couldn't do it anymore.

So it's not about going on the deeds to protect your son then. It is about wanting some capital from the house. Presumably he's well aware of this and again you're not getting on the deeds.

You've only moved back in with him to try and get on the deeds. You're better off saying you'll either cut your losses completely, or stay there 'platonically', whilst you save some cash.

AlwaysPerfumed · 06/04/2025 21:05

I don't think you are being unreasonable in asking for some help and I hope you get some.
Maybe you could try being as you were before the menopause, in order to sweeten the situation. I know you shouldn't have to be but you catch more flies with honey and all that.

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 21:16

@Poppyseeds79 I'm not living with him , I'm renting a place on my own.
He promised me when I left a lump sum to help me start again but that never happened.

OP posts:
CaptainFuture · 06/04/2025 21:20

Stockgirl · 06/04/2025 21:16

@Poppyseeds79 I'm not living with him , I'm renting a place on my own.
He promised me when I left a lump sum to help me start again but that never happened.

Where do you think he should get the money to fund your lump sum to set you up from?