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Work colleague has decided to come on holiday with me — again...

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Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 11:39

I work in a school (admin, not teaching). Every year for the last 11 years, I've been away on my own over the summer half-term to attend a big literary festival. My DH and DC have never wanted to come. Both children are now in their 20s.

I register as a volunteer for the festival, book a campsite for a week, do my volunteering duties and attend events at the festival, read, sleep lots, eat what I want and do some work remotely. I have several friends who do similar. It's my 'me' week and I look forward to it very much. Several people at work know what I do and occasionally they turn up at the festival for a day or two. We bump into each other at the festival site, have a coffee — not a problem.

Last year I arrived on the campsite and was setting the van up when someone banged on the window. It was a colleague with her 7-year-old daughter, asking for help to put their tent up. They were camping on the same site in a tent for the week. I helped out, reluctantly. Then they wanted to come in and join me in the van because there was a chilly wind and they were cold. I made them drinks, they poked around the van and didn't seem to want to leave. It went on like that. The weather wasn't great and whenever I was in the van they'd come round and expect to sit with me in the warm or have hot drinks or a meal. They had a car and went out sometimes during the day, but never brought back a takeaway or food to help out. I felt under pressure to host them and so ended up avoiding the van as much as possible. One evening my colleague asked me to look after her daughter while she attended a comedy gig at the festival. She'd already bought a ticket: I didn't feel as if I could say no. I felt as if I'd lost all my down time to looking after them.

They left a day early, which was a relief: they weren't prepared for the reality of camping and from what my colleague said in the weeks afterwards, she had no intention of going back again. Yesterday afternoon I bumped into her in the corridor and she announced that she'd bought a better tent and mattress and thermal leggings and she and her daughter were booked again. Same campsite as me. 'We can hang out like last year' she said.

I'm already booked into the campsite and on the volunteer rota, so I'm committed. How can I politely say that they spoiled last year's break for me, and I'm not doing it again?

OP posts:
Drummergirl1971 · 06/04/2025 19:41

Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 12:05

I didn't invite them in. I'd be sitting there reading or eating or lying down and they look in the windows and see me. I guess I could draw the blinds but I don't want to have to spend the whole week with the blinds drawn when I'm in there. Hiding from them seems the worst option.

It's a camper van, by the way, not a caravan. If I had a caravan I could leave it on site, get in my car and take myself off for some peace and quiet. But with a camper van once I'm there and I've got the electricity hooked up and the gas on and the stabilisers down and my stuff sitting out, it's quite a hassle to pack it all up and go off for a half a day to be on my own.

I think you’re being very generous as to her motives - she’s freeloading. Reading your longer replies, she “popped in” morning, noon & night. Borrowing hot water I can kind of understand(ish), pooping in for a bit to keep warm, but letting you feed her kid, by passively sitting back & never once saying “I’m getting a takeaway, my treat” & forcing you to babysit is not on. I would never presume that & I would’ve taken you for a meal to say thank you once home at the very least. She clearly wasn’t set up for camping & didn’t enjoy it, so it beggars belief she’s going again. In my experience, she will blithely ignore subtle hints because last year’s exploits were calculated. It’s tough but you might have to be blunt & let her know you felt like her mum & it ruined your vacation

waterrat · 06/04/2025 19:42

as a camping veteran - relying on someone else for heat and food is REALLy rude!! and shit preparation. this isn't the kalahari desert - she is a grown adult who should be taking what she needs to camp properly. She could make her tent nice and cosy and have proper camping set up if she wanted to

I have camped with close friends for years who are single parents - including at festivals - and they make it work and are self reliant! yes, we camp in a group to support each other but I don;t see parents rely on other adults for help unless it's mutual support.

chaosmaker · 06/04/2025 19:47

Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 11:39

I work in a school (admin, not teaching). Every year for the last 11 years, I've been away on my own over the summer half-term to attend a big literary festival. My DH and DC have never wanted to come. Both children are now in their 20s.

I register as a volunteer for the festival, book a campsite for a week, do my volunteering duties and attend events at the festival, read, sleep lots, eat what I want and do some work remotely. I have several friends who do similar. It's my 'me' week and I look forward to it very much. Several people at work know what I do and occasionally they turn up at the festival for a day or two. We bump into each other at the festival site, have a coffee — not a problem.

Last year I arrived on the campsite and was setting the van up when someone banged on the window. It was a colleague with her 7-year-old daughter, asking for help to put their tent up. They were camping on the same site in a tent for the week. I helped out, reluctantly. Then they wanted to come in and join me in the van because there was a chilly wind and they were cold. I made them drinks, they poked around the van and didn't seem to want to leave. It went on like that. The weather wasn't great and whenever I was in the van they'd come round and expect to sit with me in the warm or have hot drinks or a meal. They had a car and went out sometimes during the day, but never brought back a takeaway or food to help out. I felt under pressure to host them and so ended up avoiding the van as much as possible. One evening my colleague asked me to look after her daughter while she attended a comedy gig at the festival. She'd already bought a ticket: I didn't feel as if I could say no. I felt as if I'd lost all my down time to looking after them.

They left a day early, which was a relief: they weren't prepared for the reality of camping and from what my colleague said in the weeks afterwards, she had no intention of going back again. Yesterday afternoon I bumped into her in the corridor and she announced that she'd bought a better tent and mattress and thermal leggings and she and her daughter were booked again. Same campsite as me. 'We can hang out like last year' she said.

I'm already booked into the campsite and on the volunteer rota, so I'm committed. How can I politely say that they spoiled last year's break for me, and I'm not doing it again?

You don't have to polite about your holiday having been ruined by them. You tell the colleague that it's 'you' time and you don't need to babysit them or do anything with them at all. Getting you to babysit was really rude of her so she sounds thick skinned anyway. In which case blunt is better.

Concernedcheeselover · 06/04/2025 20:04

There is absolutely nothing rude or awkward about telling her EXACTLY what you wrote in your initial post. Every year for 11 years this has been your ‘me’ time, not even hubby and DC comes. It’s your annual literary holiday you look forward to. And say you hope they have a lovely time, will be happy to grab a coffee, but without coming off rude you want to have your quiet solitude when you have finished volunteering! and you’re telling them
now so wires dont get crossed when you’re there. If she’s rude enough to cause a problem then I’d be rude enough to cause a bigger problem 😂

FinishLast · 06/04/2025 20:10

daisychain01 · 06/04/2025 18:34

Sorry to sound harsh, but how can someone be that tin-eared that they ignore your stated needs and wishes. Are they really that thick that they don't get the message?

also I would change your holiday week and go to the camp on a week she isn't there.

Edited

also I would change your holiday week and go to the camp on a week she isn't there

Hay is a literary festival, the OP volunteers there ( as she has explained numerous times).

Not much use going a different week!

Illbefinejustbloodyfine · 06/04/2025 20:15

@Craquedechevalier your week sounds utterly blissful. It's no weird or odd or anti social to want time to yourself. I say that as a single parent. Either tell her directly ir by message, that you use this time to be alone and recharge, and you can't host her in your van. You like it to be uninterrupted.

Cherrysoup · 06/04/2025 20:23

Craquedechevalier · 06/04/2025 09:04

Yes, there are lots of activities and events for children and she took her daughter to some of them each day. They also went into town, walked down by the river, went out in the car sightseeing, went kayaking, went on guided walks, had picnics and various other things. But when they were back on the campsite, they'd check if I was in the van and if there was any sign of me they knocked and anticipated coming in for a chat and a drink. I'm sure they thought they were being friendly to a lonely older woman who was there on her own.

I swerved them a couple of times — grabbed my bag and coat and said I was just off to an event if I saw them coming. But they'd knock at around 8am to see if I had any spare hot water and then come in and wait while the kettle boiled and eye up my toast or cereal and only leave when I had to go off on volunteering duty. And often when I got back in the early afternoon they'd pop over for a chat to show me what they'd been doing in the morning, and the child would ask for some juice or squash... And then back again around 6pm.

That’s majorly cheeky, 3 times a day! I sincerely hope the ‘leave me alone’ message is very firmly passed on this year. 3 times a day! I’d have exploded!

MarvellousMonsters · 06/04/2025 20:28

Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 11:59

If I say I'll be busy she'll probably smile and say 'I know you're busy, we'll just pop over when you're around to have a drink with you when we see you in the van.' Last year she told to others at work about how she and her daughter relied on me for hot water and food and warmth and how they wouldn't have survived without me.

I don't think she's a CF, I just think she's one of those cheery outgoing people who assume people are happy to spend time with her and her child. She's a single mum: it can't be easy, I know. I can't help it that I'm someone who needs my own space.

I suspect she has no concept of someone enjoying solitude. She may find it lonely (lone parent so possibly spends a lot of time alone) and assumes you do too, and doesn’t realise that you are choosing to go to Hay by yourself and love the time alone. I love my own company and have found lots of people honestly don’t believe I’m happy to be alone, and the thinly veiled pity from lots of people was palpable.

I know you’re going to try to explain to her that you are not up for regular visitors, and I hope she takes it on board, but, just in case she still doesn’t get it, would some big obvious over-ear headphones act as a deterrent if they ‘see’ you in the van reading etc? Maybe you could put some net curtains in your windows so she can’t see in? Failing that, a Do Not Disturb sign on your door?

Also, as a lone parent that used to take my children to festivals, suggest to her she keeps an eye on her local Aldi for camping accessories, including a canopy/gazebo to cook in/under, plus camping chairs, and top trumps etc to do when they are relaxing in their tent. Also head torches.

WoollyRosebud · 06/04/2025 20:51

I'd be furious if I had someone knocking on my van door at 8am wanting hot water. I would imagine OP you wouldn't have time for chit chat and nonsense at that time of the morning when you are off on volunteering duties. Even if you can dissuade Agnes and DD from arriving for a social visit I think Agnes is still going to turn up with requests for help.

I haven't been to Hay (but would love to) so don't know the set up there with campsites etc. Could the organisers of the festival help you and ensure your van is situated nowhere near Agnes' tent? OP you have been volunteering there for many years so must be good at what you do and a well respected part of the festival. They wouldn't want to lose one of their best volunteers after all would they?

Marcipix · 06/04/2025 20:55

A Do Not Disturb sign! Yes. Genius.

Explain before the trip that you need your time alone.
I think a pps suggestion that you are writing a book is the best. You therefore need to be alone with your thoughts, even if it appears that you’re eating shortbread and leafing through a magazine.

Don’t say that you have a headache or aren’t well, because she’ll be back in an hour to kindly check on you.

There are blinds with a one-way effect. I don’t know how effective they are. They might be nice for more privacy while still seeing out.

Another thing- unless you have changed a lot of details this thread could be very identifying.
Of course, that might solve your problem in one way 😉

Therealjudgejudy · 06/04/2025 20:59

She sounds very cheeky and brazen.

Id let her know that you want alone time and are not available for babysitting this year.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 06/04/2025 21:02

Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 11:39

I work in a school (admin, not teaching). Every year for the last 11 years, I've been away on my own over the summer half-term to attend a big literary festival. My DH and DC have never wanted to come. Both children are now in their 20s.

I register as a volunteer for the festival, book a campsite for a week, do my volunteering duties and attend events at the festival, read, sleep lots, eat what I want and do some work remotely. I have several friends who do similar. It's my 'me' week and I look forward to it very much. Several people at work know what I do and occasionally they turn up at the festival for a day or two. We bump into each other at the festival site, have a coffee — not a problem.

Last year I arrived on the campsite and was setting the van up when someone banged on the window. It was a colleague with her 7-year-old daughter, asking for help to put their tent up. They were camping on the same site in a tent for the week. I helped out, reluctantly. Then they wanted to come in and join me in the van because there was a chilly wind and they were cold. I made them drinks, they poked around the van and didn't seem to want to leave. It went on like that. The weather wasn't great and whenever I was in the van they'd come round and expect to sit with me in the warm or have hot drinks or a meal. They had a car and went out sometimes during the day, but never brought back a takeaway or food to help out. I felt under pressure to host them and so ended up avoiding the van as much as possible. One evening my colleague asked me to look after her daughter while she attended a comedy gig at the festival. She'd already bought a ticket: I didn't feel as if I could say no. I felt as if I'd lost all my down time to looking after them.

They left a day early, which was a relief: they weren't prepared for the reality of camping and from what my colleague said in the weeks afterwards, she had no intention of going back again. Yesterday afternoon I bumped into her in the corridor and she announced that she'd bought a better tent and mattress and thermal leggings and she and her daughter were booked again. Same campsite as me. 'We can hang out like last year' she said.

I'm already booked into the campsite and on the volunteer rota, so I'm committed. How can I politely say that they spoiled last year's break for me, and I'm not doing it again?

Must be a very small festival if she knew exactly where to find you, in a van which I assume you don't take to work so she's never seen before?

littlemisspigg · 06/04/2025 21:12

Craquedechevalier · 05/04/2025 11:39

I work in a school (admin, not teaching). Every year for the last 11 years, I've been away on my own over the summer half-term to attend a big literary festival. My DH and DC have never wanted to come. Both children are now in their 20s.

I register as a volunteer for the festival, book a campsite for a week, do my volunteering duties and attend events at the festival, read, sleep lots, eat what I want and do some work remotely. I have several friends who do similar. It's my 'me' week and I look forward to it very much. Several people at work know what I do and occasionally they turn up at the festival for a day or two. We bump into each other at the festival site, have a coffee — not a problem.

Last year I arrived on the campsite and was setting the van up when someone banged on the window. It was a colleague with her 7-year-old daughter, asking for help to put their tent up. They were camping on the same site in a tent for the week. I helped out, reluctantly. Then they wanted to come in and join me in the van because there was a chilly wind and they were cold. I made them drinks, they poked around the van and didn't seem to want to leave. It went on like that. The weather wasn't great and whenever I was in the van they'd come round and expect to sit with me in the warm or have hot drinks or a meal. They had a car and went out sometimes during the day, but never brought back a takeaway or food to help out. I felt under pressure to host them and so ended up avoiding the van as much as possible. One evening my colleague asked me to look after her daughter while she attended a comedy gig at the festival. She'd already bought a ticket: I didn't feel as if I could say no. I felt as if I'd lost all my down time to looking after them.

They left a day early, which was a relief: they weren't prepared for the reality of camping and from what my colleague said in the weeks afterwards, she had no intention of going back again. Yesterday afternoon I bumped into her in the corridor and she announced that she'd bought a better tent and mattress and thermal leggings and she and her daughter were booked again. Same campsite as me. 'We can hang out like last year' she said.

I'm already booked into the campsite and on the volunteer rota, so I'm committed. How can I politely say that they spoiled last year's break for me, and I'm not doing it again?

Buy a door sign for the campervan ...."I'm out, please call back later!"
And hide inside doing your own thing.
Can't you just park away from her tent site?
How does she know where you're parked- is it not a very large campsite?
No chance of "getting lost" or even " poor network/ signal" etc?

JustWalkingTheDogs · 06/04/2025 21:31

Oh god it sounds like you might have to be a bit blunt if she doesn’t take the hint once you’ve explained it’s your ‘me time’.

I can’t imagine anyone thinking it’s ok to turn up at someone’s camper at 8am, then periodically during the day. Mid she stops by for some hot water, stand at the door don’t let them in and just say ‘sorry, no I’ve not got any hot water’, and then just stand and look at them. It’ll be really difficult for a bit but hopefully she’d eventually get the hint.

i used to holiday on my own for a for few years, people are for the most part lovely, but the amount of people who would try to take me under their wings because they felt sorry for me. Not knowing I wanted to be alone to relax and read my book etc.

martinisforeveryone · 06/04/2025 21:52

Yes to the privacy film on the glass and a Do Not Disturb sign for the door.

I'd also respond to her that unfortunately there are some crossed wires, the only reason your family don't accompany you to the festival is that this is a retreat for you and in the time you're not volunteering, you have a full schedule of things you've already planned out for yourself. You're sure she understands and hope they enjoy themselves in their mother and daughter time.

Justkeepingplatesspinning · 06/04/2025 21:56

I thought you were being kind and nice to someone who you worked with regularly - until you said you don't see one another very often at work! She's taken serious advantage of your good nature and I agree you need to say something to put a stop to it before she arrives this year with no tent and expects to sleep in the van with you!
Can you ask your line manager for advice on what to do/say? If nothing else it covers your back if she decides to start being awkward at work over it.

MayaPinion · 06/04/2025 22:01

Just have a laptop open and say, ‘I’m about to go on a Zoom call now. Enjoy the rest of your day.’

Poppingmad123 · 06/04/2025 22:18

“Hey, I’m glad you and your daughter enjoyed the camp last year and have booked to go again - it’s a great experience. But I just want to clarify in advance, that I won’t be able to hang out with you like last year or do any baby-sitting as I have a full-on schedule and am really just looking forward to some me time. Hence, I go without my family 😄 Hope you understand and have a great time. I’ll catch up with you once back at work.”

JoyousPinkPeer · 06/04/2025 22:43

I'd make it absolutely clear that I will not be available - I am having a totally child free holiday doing what I want, when I want to do it.

Feministwoman · 06/04/2025 22:45

Honestly?

As someone who regularly camps in both big tents and has a camper van , as crew /volunteer at festivals for at least a week or more.

(Including Hay!)

I'd first say "no I can't do that"

Then I'd say "I've told you NO"

Then I'd be into "just fuck off dear"

StartAnew · 06/04/2025 22:51

Craquedechevalier · 06/04/2025 15:21

This is the page that tells you what you need to know.
https://www.hayfestival.com/stewards.aspx
Yes, quite often you can listen to the talks although you're supposed to be watching the audience to make sure everything's okay, too. But you don't get to choose which team/ venue you're in so it's all a bit random.

Thank you. We should all go, then we could make a rota for being available to Agnes and her daughter.

Craquedechevalier · 06/04/2025 22:52

Feministwoman · 06/04/2025 22:45

Honestly?

As someone who regularly camps in both big tents and has a camper van , as crew /volunteer at festivals for at least a week or more.

(Including Hay!)

I'd first say "no I can't do that"

Then I'd say "I've told you NO"

Then I'd be into "just fuck off dear"

You don't have to see her at work the following week, do you? Or are you in the habit of telling colleagues to fuck off? I'm not.

OP posts:
allmymonkeys · 06/04/2025 22:56

I think even your thoughts are polite, so I'm sure you'll handle this well. It's that ghastly threat of "we can hang out like last year" that must have made your blood run cold. Pick a quiet moment with her, say "I'm afraid I found last year very stressful and I really wouldn't want to be in that situation again" - although you'll phrase it much better - and then stick to your guns.

And absolutely NO to free babysitting.

Marcipix · 06/04/2025 22:57

Your colleague is outrageous. Expecting you to give them meals?!
You’ve shopped for one, not three.

Put a Do not disturb sign on the door.
Ignore knocking.
If she knocks on the window, jump, scream, sigh ostentatiously and point to your laptop.

AgitatedGoose · 06/04/2025 23:23

I go on holiday to get away from people at work so this scenario would be my worst nightmare. You need to be very firm with this woman and set clear boundaries from the outset. I’ve no doubt she’s the sort of person who’ll need help to pitch her tent because she won’t have a clue or have had the sense to have a practice run at home. I’d seriously consider camping elsewhere for a quiet life.

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