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Best friend compared her inheritance to my benefits

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theusualdrama · 02/04/2025 18:18

My closest friend, who I have known for 15 years, is currently single, employed full time and has recently purchased her first home after years of renting. She doesn’t have any children. She grew up with her mother and didn’t see her father for over 20 years. He runs his own business and is quite wealthy. On the other hand, I’m a single parent with 3 children. I work part time and rent a small house. I rely on universal credit since my ex doesn’t provide any financial support. Like my friend, I was also raised by a single parent and have no connection with my father. He’s also very well off but has never offered any help or support. Even though, we share similar backgrounds, we’ve clearly taken different paths in life.

She recently reconnected with her dad, who gave her £50,000 to help with a house deposit. I was absolutely thrilled for her, knowing how challenging it was for her to purchase a house on her own without this money. We got together for coffee earlier, and I asked her how the house renovations were going. She filled me in on all the upgrades she’s done and everything. I mentioned how lucky she was to have her father’s support, and I meant that in a positive way. It seems she was offended, as she subsequently likened her inheritance to me receiving benefits for free (her words).

It was uncomfortable after that and we haven’t spoken since. Her comment keeps running through my head, and I’m really surprised she believes it’s the same situation.

AIBU?

OP posts:
spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 14:45

Cara707 · 05/04/2025 14:38

Yes, you're right @spicemaiden . There are loads of cruel posts on this thread (I hope you didn't mean mine was as I fully support the OP and I'm on UC myself!). Sadly I think cruelty is a major part of our neoliberal society- survival of the most privileged (whilst trying to maintain the illusion that we live in a meritocracy!).

I didn’t mean you.

and I agree with you.

The uk is Orwellian and MN seems to have more than its fair share of pigs. I’ve been here the best part of 20 years and it’s gone from a nest of vipers to down right nasty, sneery and vile.

TheaBrandt1 · 05/04/2025 14:46

It’s just some of us pay absolutely shed loads of tax. Sticks in my craw that we are subsidising these useless “.fathers” who are not financially supporting their numerous offspring.

Kendodd · 05/04/2025 15:36

ZigZagJigsaw · 05/04/2025 14:22

And you are confident that the state keeping 50% of anything collected will cover the costs to the state of tracing and prosecuting these men?

No I'm not. But your view is short term, defeatist thinking. Are you an absent father by chance who just doesn't want the clout of HMRC forcing you to pay for your kids ?

llizzie · 05/04/2025 15:44

ThisOldThang · 05/04/2025 07:22

@llizzie

That seems like a very one-sided divorce settlement. Why did the judge award you 100% of assets?

He read the application.

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 15:50

Kendodd · 05/04/2025 15:36

No I'm not. But your view is short term, defeatist thinking. Are you an absent father by chance who just doesn't want the clout of HMRC forcing you to pay for your kids ?

You might want to go and read up on the legal frameworks that the state has to play within.

Hengaoxingrenshini · 05/04/2025 16:00

spicemaiden · 05/04/2025 14:10

I work full time in a front line position helping the most vulnerable in society.

if I was a single parent managing to still work full time my wage would be still low enough to be eligible for benefits.

My children are clearly nothing but worthless parasites (or would be if I was single according to many posters on this thread)

the smug bastards on here are truly vile

Spice maiden, I can't say remember for certain.

But the vast majority of people here have said no such thing. People have simply suggested that benefits are unearned income.

Nobody has slated op for needing top up income, we responded to a question that was is my friend unreasonable to say benefits are the same as inheritance.

You have responded to many reasons claims by saying we hate people on benefits, we hope people on benefits starve, we think people on benefits are scum.

The vast majority (I want to say no-one) but can't in good conscience say that without re-reading this entire thread. We stated our opinion that both form unearned income.

Many have openly said friend is lucky.

Nobody has said people and or children who receive Benefits are parasites.

You may interest it that way, but nobody has said it.

Hengaoxingrenshini · 05/04/2025 16:06

Cara707 · 05/04/2025 14:38

Yes, you're right @spicemaiden . There are loads of cruel posts on this thread (I hope you didn't mean mine was as I fully support the OP and I'm on UC myself!). Sadly I think cruelty is a major part of our neoliberal society- survival of the most privileged (whilst trying to maintain the illusion that we live in a meritocracy!).

Cara there are some cruel posts on this thread.

But many people are answering the question do you think a gift for a house and recieving a state benefit are the same.

Many have said they think they are both unearned, some have perhaps worded in the not the best way 'free money'. Very few have used their post of make comments on OP as a person.

They've shared their thoughts and asked questions that are generally answered with the blanket, so you want all poor people to die do you'

Which sorry but they don't. They want to go explore the question. That's not cruel. If you don't want to discuss the question in your post, then don't post it on an online forum, where people will share their opinions via written communication which leaves no room for subtle meaning, intonation etc...

ZigZagJigsaw · 05/04/2025 16:50

Kendodd · 05/04/2025 15:36

No I'm not. But your view is short term, defeatist thinking. Are you an absent father by chance who just doesn't want the clout of HMRC forcing you to pay for your kids ?

No I’m not an absent father.

My view is that socialised provision for children is better for the children than an individualistic approach. My point is that you seem to think the state has a bottomless pit of taxpayers money to fund your ideas.

Did you choose to have children with a man who became an absent father, by any chance?

usernamealreadytaken · 05/04/2025 17:19

ThisOldThang · 05/04/2025 10:47

But under the CMS rules it's pointless having the government chase for payment. CMS doesn't reduce benefits entitlements, so there's no upside for the taxpayer.

If benefits were reduced inline with CMS payments, then the (usually mother) Primary Carer would be worse off than under the current system of benefits + CMS. Those parents that currently receive no CMS wouldn't be better off either.

Apart from issuing a punishment beating to the absent parent, what would be the point?

The point would be fewer children in poverty, and also the option for the (usually mother) to have enough to pay for childcare to be able to choose to work, reducing the need for claiming benefits and putting something back in.

Praying4Peace · 24/04/2025 14:20

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 02/04/2025 19:55

@pinkdelight my point is that I was surprised, that’s all? Most of the comments towards OP were passive aggressive about her benefits and I was surprised

The difficulty is that working part time while raising 3 children is seen as a luxury for some. Others have needed to work full time and more to keep boat afloat.
So OPs situation is subject to varying perceptions

Anywherebuthere · 24/04/2025 14:33

Free money is free money. She has had a lump sum and you get it each month. Same thing.

You both use the free money differently. She has purchased a house so its a long term asset. Your free money is spent on family but no long term asset.

But its still free money.

It may have been uncomfortable for you to hear but is it really worth bad feelings and potentially losing a friendship over?

Buzzingabout · 24/04/2025 17:28

Horrified you should allow envy and downright jealousy to get in the way of a friendship. If she invested it it would probably produce less income than you are getting and taxable too. To get the amount you are getting in benefits from invested capital there would need about half a million to be invested. I have always lived off either my salary or investments I had from saving every week in a building society. When my son was little I did home typing and babysitting. I have never had benefits. Just be grateful.

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