Nanny leaving

[Countessofgranthamm]

Nanny leaving who has been with us 3 and a half years. Is it unreasonable to just give gift and a card or is it customary to give money too? We are moving overseas for DP work so I suppose we are technically the ones leaving! She is the first nanny we have had to unsure of the customs?

Gift card, some flowers and a bottle of fizz.

Surely you need to pay her redundancy?

Yeah the ‘decent’ thing to do would be to give money. Nice present and a redundancy amount.

Redundancy pay.

& why did you title your thread that way?? She's not leaving, you are making her redundant.

& taking the kids away 🥲

Like what everyone else says…

Did you agree a contract with them?

Redundancy pay plus a card saying how much you appreciate her and a nice gift card for somewhere she likes. Plus a glowing reference. I hope you are going to do it by the book in regards to RP. It’s not about what is customary, it’s the law.

I’d give her a month’s pay and a bunch of flowers.

We don’t use PAYE, we transfer and she declares her earnings. (I’ve seen proof of this) so I don’t think we’re expected to pay redundancy?

& taking the kids away 🥲

They're my kids.. 🤨

I didn’t think this was allowed - I thought nannies had to be your employee?

Does she only work for you? Quite unusual fur a nanny to be self employed if you’re in the U.K.

Your thread title is misleading (on purpose?)

You are effectively making her redundant so you need to ensure she gets sufficient notice and is not financially impacted

Unless she is able to refuse a suggested day i.e. you tell her which days you need and she can accept or refuse them, she's an employee, or should be. If she does e.g. every Tuesday and Wednesday and takes annual leave then don't piss her off or she might report you to HMRC. I've know it happen......

Morally you should give her a generous financial reward. Fizz and a gift card is very inadequate!

Yes you need to pay her redundancy

Please say you’ve been paying the appropriate employer’s NI contributions for the last three years…

Exactly this

I fear not….

this

@Countessofgranthamm I do hope she's a smart cookie.

https://www.nannytax.co.uk/redundancy

What is the criteria for redundancy?

In order to qualify for redundancy the nanny must:
Have at least two years continuous employment with the same family
Be working as an employee with a PAYE Scheme and under an Employment Contract*

*This does not necessarily mean a written contract, as some employers unfortunately don’t provide this. A nanny is still considered an employee working under a contract even if there is nothing in writing.

They are but she’d be unnatural not to find it hard.

I think a small gift is a bit lame … she’s looked after your most precious assets.

Legally she's your employee if you set her hours of work and tasks however the money is transferred. You owe her redundancy money. It's not an optional extra.

Agree on a month salary and a gift!

Also just to warn you op, all the children I have known undergo a change of long term nanny have found it traumatic and needed support.

You sound as though you are being a bit “birth certicatey” about her relationship with them. In reality they have been in her care a lot.

Is she genuinely self employed eg she sets her hours and rates, provides her own equipment, has multiple clients.
Or do you employ her by giving her set days and hours, directing her on how she completes her work?