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Why is no one talking about Leaving Neverland 2 Or contradictions of the accusers?

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leavingnever2 · 21/03/2025 21:45

I noticed no one seems to care about Leaving Neverland 2 or be talking about it. Why aren't more people discussing the factual problems with "Leaving Neverland"?

I've noticed that many discussions about Michael Jackson focus on the allegations without examining the serious inconsistencies in the accusers' stories such as:

  1. James Safechuck claimed abuse at Neverland's train station between 1988-1992, but construction records prove it wasn't built until 1994-1995 - this is a major lie!
  1. Wade Robson claimed his first abuse happened in January 1990 when his family went to the Grand Canyon without him, but his mother Joy testified under oath that Wade went WITH the family on that trip
  1. Robson testified IN DETAIL as an adult under oath in 2005 that nothing inappropriate ever happened
  1. Wade Robson asked Michael Jackson for permission to get married at Neverland Ranch in 2005 - why would he want to celebrate his wedding at the place he later claimed he was abused?
  1. Stephanie Safechuck (James Safechuck's mother) stated in the documentary that when she heard about Michael Jackson's death in 2009, she "danced" and was "so happy he died" because she thought "Oh thank God, he can't hurt any more children." However, according to her son James, he never told anyone about his alleged abuse until after seeing Wade Robson's interview in 2013, and only then told his family about it.

This creates a major contradiction: Stephanie Safechuck couldn't have known about the alleged abuse in 2009 when Michael Jackson died if James didn't tell her until 2013 - four years later.

This is another significant timeline inconsistency that calls into question the narrative presented in the documentary. It's difficult to reconcile how Stephanie could have had this specific reaction to Jackson's death if she was unaware of any alleged abuse at that time. This type of contradiction represents more than just hazy memory - it's a fundamental issue with the timeline of disclosure that the documentary doesn't address or explain.

These aren't minor discrepancies but fundamental contradictions in their stories.
I'm not saying we shouldn't take abuse allegations seriously, but shouldn't we also consider verifiable facts that directly contradict these specific accusations?

People seem to take the documentary at face value, without question - it’s strange to not want to consider all the facts especially when some of them are major.

Honestly, I wouldn’t bet my life of MJ innocence but I also thinks it’s entirely plausible he’s innocent when I heard the above.

Why is there so little interest in most people to examine the full picture/the pure financial greed of these two accusers constantly attempting to get millions after their case is thrown out so many times in Leaving Neverland 2?

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Readyornot8565 · 24/03/2025 12:39

JandamiHash · 24/03/2025 10:16

Exactly. For what gain? To be harassed and called liars?

I thought Wade’s brother’s account was very telling. He was angry that Wade had defended Jackson for so long and his account of him making the disclosure outside a food truck in LA was moving. So people are suggesting this man is going along with Wade’s lie or Wade concocted it all and led to his family and is still lying a decade later - OR is it more likely that Jackson was actually just a pedophile?

Yep, so either Wade came up with this elaborate plan to reveal all and has been consistently lying to his therapist and his whole family for over 10 years (and the press and pretty much the whole world, plus the people - experts and fellow CSA survivors involved in his from trauma to triumph podcast and the other CSA groups he's involved with).

OR

All of those people are also liars and incredible actors (surely they should be making films and theater with that level of skill?).

OR

Jackson is a paedophile.

Hmm 🤔

Occam's razor indeed.

And when Wade's wife refused to allow his mum access to their house for six months after the disclosure, as she obviously blames her in part for allowing it to happen.

Definitely reasonable that they would cause all of that family upset to defend the lie 🙄

Readyornot8565 · 24/03/2025 12:53

And OP and any other paedophile defenders, surely if Wade and James just want money (I can't think of any other motive for their 'lies' - please enlighten me if you know better?), surely they would just do what the five post-2019 accusers did and go straight to the estate for a pay-off in exchange for their silence?

That way, they would still get their money, but without the death and rape threats and cataclysmic devastation to their lives and that of their families?

LazyCatLtd · 05/04/2026 22:20

I see the DM has new photos of MJ with children. Looking very inappropriate. I have no doubt he was abusing children.

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