Upset by way govmt is managing disability benefits change

[Rosie8880]

The narrative government is sharing about disability benefits changes is upsetting. They speak about the ballooning of claims & how this is unsustainable. Isn’t this connected to the collapse of NHS, waiting times and people awaiting for diagnosis, unable to get treatment. The most vulnerable people in society are being impacted and there are other ways to bring in income // reduce spending (Tax wealth, and by wealth mean multi millionaires/ rather than poorest in society). This is not the way. Like to hear about those that are impacted.

They should get 4 points in one section surely, have a look online.

https://assets.ctfassets.net/vms0u05139aw/pip_descriptors.pdf/93820be60dcc6420191292ed56e2c95f/pip_descriptors.pdf

They should be fixing the NHS. It is the wait lists and cuts that are causing small illnesses and injures to become worse and life changing.

Instead they are cutting the NHS and cutting welfare.

Lots more people are going to die.

There are tons of other taxes. Businesses pay a lower tax rate than the poorest individual. How is that fair?

I bet most of the people impacted voted labour too! How ironic.

So many people are going to kill themselves. There leaving people with no options a lot of people who genuinely can't work or certainly can't work full time are going to lose there whole income what are they suppose to do. Not everyone can work 50/60 hr weeks

I agree.
We will be left with next to no money and also forced into the UC work commitment thing. Sit crying infront of a work coach, self harming. Get sanctioned.

To buy fancy new weapons for MoD because Putin and “new Cold War” and to service the higher interest on public debt racked up over COVID caused by paying for middle class workers to sit at home on “furlough” collecting £2,500/mo each because UC wasn’t good enough for them.

I'd love to move to Finland. I'm stuck in the UK ( not England though )

I'm putting through a pip mobility application at the moment.
I've been trying to get a diagnosis for pains and fatigue for 10+ years, last year it took as serious turn and I've lost my ability to walk. 10 years I've been told it's due to anxiety, depression and lack of vitamin D.

Just to add, I've had to wait 8 months to be seen by a specialist, I was supposed to see someone back in October but the hospital kept pushing back my referral. My Gp told me to rest my pains whilst I see the specialist, the specialist told me that my mobility has been lost by resting too much. My health could have been saved much sooner has I been listened to.

I broke my foot, and was told it was mental health related. It is ridiculous.

Health & MH services & support charities will get completely overwhelmed. Hospital admissions & the suicide rate will increase. Right to try with no fear of losing your benefits is great in theory but is meaningless if you no longer are eligible for that benefit in the first place.
Survival of the fittest at its finest.

I believe it!

My boyfriend was worried about me after all the new announcements and called the crisis team. They said they had a huge increase in calls mostly about the cuts to benefts.

I self harmed and ended up at my GP yesterday to talk about this. I can't sleep either.

Sorry to hear that. It is awful. No one gets it unless it affecting them.

You are right and today’s economic news is going to make it even more urgent.

The worst bit is our lives will be shadowed by this for years. Wondering when it will kick in. If we can manage to scrape 4 points next assessment etc

And the likelyhood is no, most people won't.
They want people off PIP and have brought in the 4 point rule for a reason, because its unattainable to a lot of people. I looked through the descriptors and i dont think I quite fit into any 4+

But have lots of 2s and 3s, hence my award now.

I self harmed today first time in months

Agix
They talk about anxiety and depression being over diagnosed. Of course these conditions are over diagnosed, GPS can't be arsed to actually investigate symptoms, especially if you're a woman. Head could be half off and you'd still get slapped with an anxiety diagnosis.

No such thing as “over diagnosis” by doctors.
Very sad people are falling for this.

Sorry but I have to disagree. I was widowed two years ago and during a routine doctor's appointment he asked if I missed my husband. Of course, I replied, and was then told that I could be put on "something to help with that". I asked if he meant antidepressants and he said yes. With one clumsy question he'd diagnosed me as depressed and offered medication. People ARE being misdiagnosed, and it's widespread.

@indigovapour Costs ARE ballooning and it IS unsustainable. Would you prefer they just pretended that wasn’t the case and did nothing about it

I would prefer they actually address the underlying issues in a long term way. Which would mean tax increases for most people to fund investment in services. New legislation to force employers to be flexible around WFH, sickness leave and reasonable adjustments and to guarantee interviews for all disabled applicants meeting minimum eligibility criteria. And more besides. A holistic approach, not the blunt instrument of cuts.

Yes they are doing something, but not something that will actually save money, get people into work or make them healthier. It’s just a mishmash of stuff they think the public want to hear; no actual strategy. It will cost more in the long run and ruin lives

People do not get it.

It's sad to see how many people are gleeful about making people who are too disabled to work destitute. There's a huge number of people who aren't 'severely' disabled, whatever that's supposed to mean, but who are not well enough for work of any kind.

All of those 'lesser' disabled people are going to be even colder and hungrier, possibly end up homeless, or in desperate situations. And people are actually celebrating that.

All I've heard for days now is about what a useless burden I am on society. It's fucked up.

And no, I don't care if your auntie's cousin's dog knows a benefit scrounger.

What else can happen?
Too many are increasingly claiming benefits for mental health and it's not sustainable.
I'd like to see benefits kept for things like genetic physical differences that make working harder, but the number of people saying they have mental health doesn't make sense unless some are gaming the system (how do the government work out which ones are doing this?).

They don't. Their plan is to punish everyone who can't work and hopefully starve some of them into finding jobs or commit suicide otherwise.

People will die because of this.

1. the changes aren’t restricted to mental health issues
2. even if they were, loads of people genuinely cant work due to mental health issues. round my way there are plenty of extreme examples - the guy who walks up and down the high street hitting himself in the head and shouting about jesus; the woman who goes out fully naked a few times a year. many more besides. what work can they do?