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AIBU to continue turning in the school gate?

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NortonBuns · 19/03/2025 14:18

I drive my dd to school everyday and once I drop her off I turn around and drive home. I approach the back gate of the school and use this entrance to turn my car round so I can head back home.
The school have now put up a sign saying keep our children safe, no stopping, dropping off or turning in the entrance.
So where am I supposed to turn around? If I carry on I reach the front gate which is busier and has the busses. If I turn before I reach the back entrance I am doing a three point turn in busy school run traffic with lots of children walking and cycling.
So AIBU to say I am safest turning in the large double gate and ignoring the new sign?

OP posts:
SpringIsSpringing25 · 22/03/2025 18:12

Busyquaver1 · 20/03/2025 20:20

Assuming you and your child have no disabilities then I'd say walk to school!!

6 miles??

SpringIsSpringing25 · 22/03/2025 18:14

Cheezmysta42 · 21/03/2025 16:10

Just drive past the school, turn in a side road and then drop your kid off facing home?

You need to read at least all of the OP's posts

SpringIsSpringing25 · 22/03/2025 18:18

stillwaitingtobepaid · 21/03/2025 19:26

Just do as you are told and what is safe for the children at the school!!

The thing is, the school are not giving them a better option. When they were doing the safe and legal thing.(if the land of businesses are on is public land, if the land is private land they have every right to ask the school to tell parents not to do the obviously safe thing and turn around in the business grounds). With schools that are situated like this with parents living rural but no school bus service from where they live I feel the owner is on the school to sort something out. They are happy with.

@NortonBuns the parents need to get together and speak to the school. Find out whether the land that the businesses are on is private or public. If it's public, the business needs to be told to get in their lane if it's private the school needs to try to come to some arrangement. With them.. this may involve the School funding a turning circle or something but the school needs to help organise a drop off situation that they are happy with.

Or do you think it could be solved by an additional school bus?

CunningLinguist1 · 22/03/2025 18:29

NortonBuns · 19/03/2025 14:18

I drive my dd to school everyday and once I drop her off I turn around and drive home. I approach the back gate of the school and use this entrance to turn my car round so I can head back home.
The school have now put up a sign saying keep our children safe, no stopping, dropping off or turning in the entrance.
So where am I supposed to turn around? If I carry on I reach the front gate which is busier and has the busses. If I turn before I reach the back entrance I am doing a three point turn in busy school run traffic with lots of children walking and cycling.
So AIBU to say I am safest turning in the large double gate and ignoring the new sign?

You are going to get flamed for this one.
park & walk from a distance that’s safe for all the kids at drop off/pickup time to keep everyone safe. Easy peasy

CwmYoy · 22/03/2025 18:44

SpringIsSpringing25 · 22/03/2025 18:18

The thing is, the school are not giving them a better option. When they were doing the safe and legal thing.(if the land of businesses are on is public land, if the land is private land they have every right to ask the school to tell parents not to do the obviously safe thing and turn around in the business grounds). With schools that are situated like this with parents living rural but no school bus service from where they live I feel the owner is on the school to sort something out. They are happy with.

@NortonBuns the parents need to get together and speak to the school. Find out whether the land that the businesses are on is private or public. If it's public, the business needs to be told to get in their lane if it's private the school needs to try to come to some arrangement. With them.. this may involve the School funding a turning circle or something but the school needs to help organise a drop off situation that they are happy with.

Or do you think it could be solved by an additional school bus?

It isn't the school's responsibility to facilitate parents into behaving safely and responsibly. That's all on the parents to do the right thing.

To suggest that the school pays for a solution is just stupid. As though they aren't already underfunded. To suggest they pay to help out parents too lazy to walk a few hundred yards is madness.

Ilikepianos · 22/03/2025 20:27

This has to be a wind up. Obviously you need to park somewhere else, however inconvenient.

IamMoodyBlue · 22/03/2025 21:23

Sorry if I've missed other posts suggesting this, but have you had a discussion about this with the Head?
If your turning place is genuinely the safest place it should be possible to calmly talk about the problem and explain the reasons you and others use it.
Otherwise, some creative use of the area the buses use to drop off may be possible.

Kago2790 · 22/03/2025 21:39

Can your daughter cycle? 30 minutes at 12 mph.

SpringIsSpringing25 · 22/03/2025 22:33

CwmYoy · 22/03/2025 18:44

It isn't the school's responsibility to facilitate parents into behaving safely and responsibly. That's all on the parents to do the right thing.

To suggest that the school pays for a solution is just stupid. As though they aren't already underfunded. To suggest they pay to help out parents too lazy to walk a few hundred yards is madness.

No it's not stupid & you are very rude.

How are parents supposed to behave more safely & responsibly? The Senior School children have a separate fenced off walkway, the only issue here is that the business next door doesn't want them to turn around in the driveway, but they also don't want them to go into the Estate.

If you had read the thread or even just the OP's posts, you would know there isn't a side road. There is nowhere to park a few hundred yards away. The OP lives 6 miles away and there is no school bus in her rural location.

Given the facts not what you imagine might be true i.e. parking a few hundred yards away side streets what's your solution???

BeCoolDenimScroller · 23/03/2025 09:02

How fascinating I’ve always wondered what goes on in the minds of those parents who do this. You need to park further away and walk from your car like everyone else. It might feel like a hassle to you but if you hit a child doing what you’re doing you’d have to live with the guilt forever. YABU.

Tanjamaltija · 23/03/2025 09:58

Talk to the school, not to us... and do it before an accident happens, not after.

CwmYoy · 23/03/2025 10:44

If you had read the thread or even just the OP's posts, you would know there isn't a side road. There is nowhere to park a few hundred yards away. The OP lives 6 miles away and there is no school bus in her rural location.

I refuse to believe there is a road 6 miles long with no side road or other place to park.

Given the facts not what you imagine might be true i.e. parking a few hundred yards away side streets what's your solution???

Not the school's problem or mine to expect parents to behave responsibly. That's on them.

NoDought · 23/03/2025 14:25

That sign obviously wasn’t for you so just continue doing whatever you feel like hun 😂😂😂😂

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 23/03/2025 16:12

I still want to know where this place is that has houses, businesses and a school for 2 miles with no side roads or places to turn round.

rosemarble · 23/03/2025 16:15

What's been happening all last week OP?
You say there is a stream of parents all doing the same as you.
Has anyone spoken to the school?

Bluedenimdoglover · 23/03/2025 16:15

This has gone on far too long. I think it's just a wind up

NautilusLionfish · 23/03/2025 16:17

YANBU OP. YABADh

You are definitely not being unreasonable. You are being a dickhead

NautilusLionfish · 23/03/2025 16:22

SpringIsSpringing25 · 22/03/2025 22:33

No it's not stupid & you are very rude.

How are parents supposed to behave more safely & responsibly? The Senior School children have a separate fenced off walkway, the only issue here is that the business next door doesn't want them to turn around in the driveway, but they also don't want them to go into the Estate.

If you had read the thread or even just the OP's posts, you would know there isn't a side road. There is nowhere to park a few hundred yards away. The OP lives 6 miles away and there is no school bus in her rural location.

Given the facts not what you imagine might be true i.e. parking a few hundred yards away side streets what's your solution???

There is nowhere to park a few hundred yards away.
Oh there I thought there was nowhere to park for a few hundred miles.
Op and their DC can walk a few hundred yards surely?
Last year we had two incidences where a child was hit, the other it was a child and a gran. School safety at drop off and pick up needs to be taken seriously. If it means parking a few hundred yards away then so be it. It doesn't matter how many other dkh parents are turning at the gates

NautilusLionfish · 23/03/2025 16:25

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 21/03/2025 08:28

@NortonBuns you've still not explained why you're driving your DD to school rather than driving her to a bus stop.

And I still don't believe there is any road in the UK. with schools, shops, businesses etc that has a two mile stretch with no side roads.

Oh but this school is. There is one road to it then jungle all around. Lions, stomping elephants, hungry tigers all around. Can't possibly park in the jungle a few yards away and walk. Would risk being eaten or trampled

Iamanunsafebuilding · 23/03/2025 16:49

TheWonderhorse · 19/03/2025 14:44

No of course you can't ignore the sign.

BUT...why all schools don't have designated drop off points bewilders me.

Our primary school used to have a drop off zone and the parents parked in it and left their cars while they walked the kids into the classroom so they closed it. Parents could park in the car park but there were parking rage incidents so they closed it. Parents then clogged up the road directly opposite including parking on bends and the mini roundabout so the council had to double yellow it.

In the main parents dropping at school are arseholes

TheWonderhorse · 23/03/2025 17:02

Iamanunsafebuilding · 23/03/2025 16:49

Our primary school used to have a drop off zone and the parents parked in it and left their cars while they walked the kids into the classroom so they closed it. Parents could park in the car park but there were parking rage incidents so they closed it. Parents then clogged up the road directly opposite including parking on bends and the mini roundabout so the council had to double yellow it.

In the main parents dropping at school are arseholes

Maybe at that school, but I use two schools regularly and we don't have those problems so I don't recognise your assessment. Generally if there are traffic problems outside a school then more options are needed, not less. I appreciate that ideally parents will all walk their children to school, but in reality most have to be at work or at another school for siblings and everything is a rush.

Two of my DC are at a school with a drop off point, and it works really well though. The other school has parking and I've never seen any parking rage there.

LilyLillyO · 23/03/2025 17:08

read this and have a think about how you'd feel if there was a child you didn't see.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13167725/Father-reversed-killed-19-month-old-daughter-wandered-driveway-blind-spot.html

SpringIsSpringing25 · 23/03/2025 17:38

NautilusLionfish · 23/03/2025 16:22

There is nowhere to park a few hundred yards away.
Oh there I thought there was nowhere to park for a few hundred miles.
Op and their DC can walk a few hundred yards surely?
Last year we had two incidences where a child was hit, the other it was a child and a gran. School safety at drop off and pick up needs to be taken seriously. If it means parking a few hundred yards away then so be it. It doesn't matter how many other dkh parents are turning at the gates

there isn't anywhere to park a few hundred yards away. 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️

SpringIsSpringing25 · 23/03/2025 17:39

LilyLillyO · 23/03/2025 17:08

read this and have a think about how you'd feel if there was a child you didn't see.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13167725/Father-reversed-killed-19-month-old-daughter-wandered-driveway-blind-spot.html

That's incredibly sad, but totally irrelevant to this situation. These are senior school children with a fenced off walkway for them to walk along.

SpringIsSpringing25 · 23/03/2025 17:46

TheWonderhorse · 23/03/2025 17:02

Maybe at that school, but I use two schools regularly and we don't have those problems so I don't recognise your assessment. Generally if there are traffic problems outside a school then more options are needed, not less. I appreciate that ideally parents will all walk their children to school, but in reality most have to be at work or at another school for siblings and everything is a rush.

Two of my DC are at a school with a drop off point, and it works really well though. The other school has parking and I've never seen any parking rage there.

Same here!! The school with the drop off had teachers who get up the children out of the cars and supervise them walking in through the Near gate, parents didn't need to get out and you can see your child go safely through the gate onto the school grounds.

Another school did a bit of work on their grounds to create a kind of an in/out situation and as this was a senior school, the children could just get out the car and go in themselves. Most parents and children were very good at doing it quickly of course she got the odd parent that had to say goodbye to Rudolph and Jasmine and get their bags out the boot for them🙄🙄 but it really wasn't an issue compared to the nightmare it had been beforehand.

Where that school was was in the city and all of the side roads were 'no stopping' and the school only had about 10 visitor car park spaces. Given we lived 14 miles from the school, walking wasn't an option. Nor was parking a mile from the school, because as I say it was in the city.

I disagree that it's not a school issue.

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