So, who is going to employ all these disabled people the government wants to wean of welfare

[Jimisnotmyname]

Really wondering. Not saying it is necessarily a bad thing to encourage those who can work, to work but as a carer for 2 disabled family members, I am hugely struggling to find another job as nobody is willing to give me any flexibility (which I need as a carer) and there are always candidates who do not need the same accomodations I do. I would imagine that many of those currently not in work because of disability or a health condition, will often need a similar level of flexibility. I just wonder who on the the government think will offer jobs galore on these circumstances??

Still not what I meant.

They have found that the disability applications have increased due to the lack of sufficient job seekers allowance.

There are then no conditions in terms of looking for work, is there? Yes, you may be reassessed/assessed but that is in relation to the 'disability' e.g. mental health.

I'm saying that job seekers allowance should be paid at a higher rate to stop this from happening. I'm referring to people who are capable of work but have used the MH disability application and benefits as a way to get more money due to job seekers allowance being too low.

Well in my case I have had a compressed nerve in my spine bought on by years of desk based work ironically. I have had spinal surgery and I have lost feeling in much of my leg. I still work. I can’t sleep at night due to the pain though.

My daughter has ADHD. She still goes to school and functions all day until she comes home and falls apart.

we both need adjustments to function successfully. Neither of us claim benefits. The two things dont always go hand it hand. It feels like a lot of posters here are sympathetic to people with challenges right up to point that it costs money.

What would you have done without DH?

Kindly, if you'd had to, might you have found the support you need and/or found ways to help yourself?

Uhhh.... She's working hard ! Why on earth would I judge her ? I think you've misunderstood what this thread is about..?

Not trying to cause offence, honestly wondering why you can’t work with these conditions?

I was a receptionist, it was a long commute and then I found that talking to people and answering calls was getting extremely difficult. I started getting a lot of migraines and fainting and pushed myself as I couldn’t understand why I was struggling. In the end I was just so unwell I couldn’t carry on and was experiencing some worrying symptoms and needed psychiatric help.

Can somebody tells me what happens if you don’t qualify for pip but can’t work

My dd currently does, the enhanced rate and would I think keep it under the new system however if at some point in the future she doesn’t will she have to work to get anything.

She has several ND and conditions and tried to kill herself several times. So basically needs to go at her pace and do what is best for her.

Will she get literally nothing if she can eventually move off pip but can not work?

It comes across (to me) that the bag of excuses of why some people cant/won't work is bottomless and they simply just don't want to.
Unfortunately the bag of money to pay for people to stay home with 'really bad anxiety ' or 'severe mental health' isn't bottomless.

Any call centre run by the State clearly needs more people to answer the bloody phones bearing in mind how long you have to sit and wait for an answer. (Passport Office, HMRC, OPG, Probate Office I'm thinking of all of you). And anyone who does answer is obviously WFH. A good job for a lot of people who struggle with leaving the house regularly.

Why do these autoimmune conditions mean you can’t work?

1. Gluten-free diet
2. Steroids as/when needed
3. Levothyroxine, tapering for tsh changes
4. Insulin

Or are you going to say it’s the endo? In which case painkillers and synthetic (or bioidentical) hormone treatment.

Or is it the adenomyosis? In which case same as above.

Oh, and none of these treatments require your own money except gluten-free groceries.

How are things like cancer, MS, stroke etc excuses? I mean, yes, they are. But also.... how?

I don't mean to be rude but this is going to come across as very rude because I'm exasperated... how on earth is it that a sizeable number of posters cannot comprehend that other people's experiences differ from their own?

My current employer is excellent at disability accommodations. Most of my previous employers weren't. I was illegally sacked from a job when I disclosed a need for a (really very minor) reasonable adjustment. I've changed jobs a lot in my career and the overwhelming majority hadn't even heard of reasonable adjustments, flat out refused to consider any, laughed in my face about it, gave me shit and/or told me I was expected to have the same productivity as others without a single adjustment. I'm somebody whose disability is minor compared with most people's, and I've only ever had 2 weeks off sick with it in my 43 year long history of working. I make my own adjustments at my own expense and I spend an eyewatering amount of money on private physical therapies to keep me able to work. If somebody like me has butted up against this many barriers does anybody really think that people who have much worse disabilities than me are going to have it any easier with employers?!!

You would know exactly who I was referring to and why if you'd bothered to read the posts, they are all there in my post which you have quoted.

She has been incredibly nasty on this thread, I didn't say I was wishing it on her. I said I didn't agree that I was hoping she never had to find out for herself! Not quite the same thing.

Not sure why you need to get involved in the conversation, but if you're going to involve yourself, the least you could do is read all the posts that lead up to it.

If they would just try harder...

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And therein lies the problem

Yes you would because that's exactly what DHs company is telling him, just suck it up basically. I've been cabin crew for many years I can tell you for a fact that long haul pilots (DH is one) are ALWAYS sleep deprived, they never get a chance to recover, not really and before you ask yes it's legal, he will fly to San Francisco, 15 hours there, flies home through the night 2 days off and then will fly to Tokyo an so on, the jet lag and the effect it has on his body is staggering, but he's done it for so long he knows no different (except when he's on leave and the can properly catch up with sleep then he notices) and that pattern of flying can continue for months on end, the company are not much use because it complies with the law and they just get told it's legal...which it is

The government is trying to reduce outgoings, it’s not going to manage that by employing more civil servants.

My dd has several serious MH conditions

Maybe the nhs is a victim of its own success? Many more people would have died in childbirth, or of childhood illness or similar, things that are survivable now often leave those affected in a more disabled situation. With SEN there do appear to be increasing numbers I have my own theory as to this but no data to prove it…

problems from my autism (didn’t list that but as you can see from my username) I can’t manage to go out much and I have communication difficulties and sensory issues . My main problems are severe pain now and bleeding problems. My diabetes is not well controlled because of digestive issues so I have a lot of issues with that. Thyroid causes me no inconvenience other than a daily tablet and a blood test every 3 months. FND causes seizures and loss of sensation, dizziness and sometimes collapse and vision issues and other symptoms. CPTSD causes flashbacks that are like hallucinations plus I can’t sleep for more than 1-2 hours at a time so I have exhaustion and I’ve made the choice not to work due to it all .

They need them in call centres. Anyone who has to deal with those outfits on a regular basis knows this. This is not an area where cuts can be made.

It's really not that complex. The EA states that reasonable adjustments are a legal duty. The law ensures that disabled people are not at a disadvantage when carrying out their job.

Education is one of the least flexible professions. Who's going to deliver my lecture to 200 students because I need to sort something out for my nan? Who will be suing the university because I couldn't deliver what was on the timetable? It's even worse in schools.

Employers need support rather like the old apprenticeship scheme if this is to have any chance

If young people with excellent qualifications are struggling to get jobs with the multi layer entry tests, video interviews where they are expected to answer questions immediately and can be in the office on a regular basis cannot get suitable employment, currently working nmw jobs on unsocial hours are there employers who will employ people who have a poor sick record, need to work at home and need the rest of the staff to alter their behaviour to fit round a person with health problems.
Perhaps government departments will take the lead and employ those that can work on restricted terms.