So, who is going to employ all these disabled people the government wants to wean of welfare

[Jimisnotmyname]

Really wondering. Not saying it is necessarily a bad thing to encourage those who can work, to work but as a carer for 2 disabled family members, I am hugely struggling to find another job as nobody is willing to give me any flexibility (which I need as a carer) and there are always candidates who do not need the same accomodations I do. I would imagine that many of those currently not in work because of disability or a health condition, will often need a similar level of flexibility. I just wonder who on the the government think will offer jobs galore on these circumstances??

I didn't know there were so many unempathetic people but there you go!

It is 100% out there in a lot of areas across the country.
I recently started a new job and was quite shocked by the amount of support provided ‘free’ by charities and other organisations.
I currently run a project supporting people with poor mental health or who are neurodivergent into work. They get free training and one to one mental health support on top of lots of other things.
We also work with employers to make their jobs accessible. This includes accompanying people to job interviews, getting the questions before the interview, payment for interview clothes and in person support when they start the role.
I am actually shocked at the amount of support there is once you start looking.
I do realise it may differ from region to region.

I don’t claim anything we just have dh wages as he earns above the couples AET

I'm on pip and work part time but the reality is I'm a pretty shit employee i have regular hospital appointments, admissions and surgeries. I also have days i just can't go in. I don't think iv ever worked a full month without taking time off. I try my hardest and use all my holidays on appointments but it isn't enough to cover them. Luckily I work for a very understanding and large employee but the reality is most jobs wouldn't be able to be this flexible and it isn't fair on the other staff. But this is the actual reality of getting disabled people back to work. A lot of people want disabled people to work but I don't think they realise the reality of that. Covering extra shifts often at last minute. Having to pick up more of the work load. Being around someone who could be in a mh crisis/episode in psychosis struggling with homicidal and suicidal thoughts. People with anger issues. Having colleagues who need longer breaks, who may take longer to learn things if at all. But hey their in work so what's it matter if your work doubles and you gain a new stalker best friend.

I think employers are going to have to be more flexible, COVID taught us that it's possible to work flexibly and from home in a lot of jobs (obviously there are exceptions, some people physically have to be at their place of work to do their job) but it does seem that employers have become more rigid now, wanting people back into he office between 9-5 Monday to Friday, when for a good few years, it worked fine without this, this would help lots of people into work.

It's possible to help people back into the workplace, but an arbitrary cut to benefits isn't it, that will just force people into poverty and further poor health!

Not saying you claim anything, but what would you suggest someone in your shoes does who doesn’t have parents or a husband to pay for them?

I probably would have had to claim in my own right ? I was and am extremely lucky to have him im very aware of that

Claim PIP and benefits in their own right . I know I’m lucky that I have a dh who earns above the threshold for me to have no work requirements

You think type 1 diabetics, hypothyroid women and gluten-intolerant women claim benefits?

Yes but you’d have to make the employer take the person on too

You need the therapy to manage the symptoms

If I worked I’d be so resented by colleagues as I’d be off for appointments so often plus needing extra breaks etc . What employer will really put up with that. I can see how it’s going to be very difficult for a lot of people trying to get back into work with medical conditions and disability

So can you explain what education institutions are? Are you really suggesting schools?

Local authorities are mostly bereft of highly qualified people who are not going to risk going into failing authorities, and as for care homes, I did work with several who were clearly unsuitable for the job and the risk to vulnerable residents was exponential and put added stress on other workers who then left.

So it's okay for her to continually post the bile she's posting to those of us that have been made disabled overnight (as as obvious from my username from a Stroke well two Strokes actually) but it's not okay for me to say I wouldn't be upset if she suffered the same and had to go through the abuse she dishing out

ok

CBT is a potential option for people with these issues.

So now it’s not that you can’t work, it’s that you’d potentially annoy colleagues if you did?

No but as I’ve stated I also have autism and FND and those are the conditions that would probably get an award given the symptoms . I just listed all my autoimmune conditions as someone asked what they were.

This, give it a year and mumsnet will be full of threads saying my co worker is taking the piss and I'm having to cover her shifts

I can imagine that chrons and type 1 diabetes needs reasonable adjustments at work, and endometriosis.

Thyroid dysfunction I wouldn't think prevents you working, it can be medicated successfully.

I obviously misunderstood. I thought you said that people were encouraged to claim disability benefits because JSA didn't pay enough. I explained that in order to claim disability benefits you need medical evidence and are regularly assessed.

I don't understand how someone with no disability is going to get medical evidence of a faux disability.

However you're saying that that's not what you mean. People on JSA are not claiming DB in order to claim more money?

I had years and years of therapy. Years of being in and out of hospitals and given various labels.. Turns out I am autistic.

Do you know people doing this then?

Personally I can’t work but as the thread is about employers I was explaining how it would cause resentment if a person similar to me tried to work. I know I can’t and that’s down to my individual circumstances but there are probably lots of others with some or similar conditions to me

Hooray to this. You cannot say you are too anxious for a job interview and never 29rk again :-0

Absolutely I was just listing as someone asked for full details of all my autoimmune conditions. Thyroid problems just requires a tablet it’s just one of things I have