So, who is going to employ all these disabled people the government wants to wean of welfare

[Jimisnotmyname]

Really wondering. Not saying it is necessarily a bad thing to encourage those who can work, to work but as a carer for 2 disabled family members, I am hugely struggling to find another job as nobody is willing to give me any flexibility (which I need as a carer) and there are always candidates who do not need the same accomodations I do. I would imagine that many of those currently not in work because of disability or a health condition, will often need a similar level of flexibility. I just wonder who on the the government think will offer jobs galore on these circumstances??

Well if she needs professional help probably not a lot as there is none.

Something tells me @DimplesToadfoot won't respond

And where I live, libraries are being closed.......

About the jobs for those with mh issues who can't commit to 9 to 5 and work unsupervised. Maybe supervised flexible litter-picking - like going for a walk with with a responsible supervisor and the extra benefit of getting paid? Where my sister lives (West of Scotland, medium-sized town) they are drowning in litter. Along to motorway, around the burns, in the fields. Not a single unspoilt wild nature spot not covered in bottles, wrappers, cans, etc. And I have not even mentioned fly-tipping in the same places. I have never seen anything of the sort and I go to the Middle East and Africa. Nobody picks litter in those beautiful nature spots.

I knew some family members benefit dodgers and others playing our system I'm 100 %behind a clean up.
However as the daughter of a physically disabled man and brother I also know how brutally hard life is for genuinely disabled people from the moment they get to to walking out the door and facing a world with few concessions in evry way for people who struggle.

There needs to be tapers and common sense but I don't trust tyere will be

How do you think the generations before us coped?

Well DP would have been placed in an "institution" and had electric shocks to his brain rendering him useless.

HTH.

And the ones that are open are installing machines instead of staff.

Or you could slide them across the scanner ? there’s always a reason not to it seems

Lol

I'm not claiming benefits anymore... and you're still not happy ... bless

I worked for a local authority, and there was plenty of discrimination against me and others. Your manager doesn't make "a local authority" never mind all local authorities. There are good and bad managers, there are those who think disabled staff are a detriment and those who don't.

i was out of work for a while after I was diagnosed with epilepsy- I was having seizures almost every day and sometimes multiple seizures in a day. No matter how much “flexibility” provided I wouldn’t have been able to work. I am unable to coordinate my body after a seizure and will sleep. I am fortunate that I am now well controlled but back in that time I can’t imagine how I could have worked.

I am working now despite having multiple health issues including mental health so I’m not work shy. I am fortunate that I am in a role with sick leave and flexibility as otherwise financially I wouldn’t have been able to have afforded to have had my surgeries.

Would you like the person with the badly healed fractures in their back to be lifting your granny out of bed and onto the commode, or would you prefer the person who has suicidal depression and can't be trusted with anything sharp?

Perhaps the person with the disabling mental health condition should be teaching your primary school kids? I'm sure you'd be understanding if they had a bad health day and couldn't come in on a regular basis.

Perhaps that person with schizophrenia could drive the bin lorry down your street.

Despite what the daily mail wants you to believe, the vast majority of disability welfare claimants aren't on it because they don't WANT to work. If that wasn't the case at the end of the last labour government's stint, 14 years of Tory austerity has sure as shit put paid to any of that.

The point is that this isn't about those genuinely unable to work. It's about mostly young people who have never had a job and don't have anything wrong with them other than a sense that they are too good for the jobs they are qualified to do.

If there's no money coming from elsewhere they will presumably pull.their socks up and make some effort at work rather than get sacked. A lot of them will find that work isn't that bad once they get used to it.

Choosing to contribute nothing should not be an option unless you genuinely can't.

This is loathsome. You do not know what you are talking about.

Attacking disabled people is low. But sounds like you are looking to upset people so I doubt my comment will make any difference.

As someone with MEcfs, your post is hurtful and ignorant. You have no clue at all.

Am I physically capable of doing some form of work?

Sort of. I could potentially be a till worker as long as I am sat down and didn’t do anything that requires too much movement.

On top of that, I get ill regularly to the point where I am either infectious, or too ill to work…

So…what store will employ me?

I can’t do any telephone work as I’m deaf..

I do feel so genuinely sad for people that need the disability allowances but unfortunately, we as a country just cannot afford to have lots of people not contributing to society. I don’t know what the answer is but the problem has started because (some) young folk have never even tried to get work, they took advantage, for want of a better word, of a system that allowed them to claim for illness that could be easily be hidden. My cousin is one of them. She has “fibromyalgia” yet never has a problem partying at the weekend, just when in public doing the school run. Her partner is also her carer. I mean to be fair she’s only got away with it because she’s been able to do so.

This is exactly what I've been wondering ever since I first heard about the proposed welfare cuts. If the government thinks that most long-term sick and disabled people are going to find it easy to find a job,then they are seriously deluding themselves. Today's job market is such that there are dozens,if not hundreds of applicants for every job. Is an employer really going to prefer to take on someone who may not have worked for years,who may be constantly calling in sick or may not be able to carry out their work efficiently? And may need numerous reasonable adjustments made in their working environment? As for the government's 'promise' that they will give help and support to people to get work,I'll believe it when I see it.

I had a letter from the local authority I worked for when I had 7 months off for cancer treatment. Several scans, 2 x surgeries, 6 rounds of chemotherapy, 5 weeks of radiotherapy, twice hospitalised with sepsis and I received a letter outlining the impact of my absence on the rest of the team. Protocol.

I saw a team member with a terminal brain tumour strongly encouraged to leave so the local authority would not be responsible for the death in service payment.

Another colleague received a letter to her home when she was in hospital following a stroke offering voluntary redundancy.

I was involved in recruitment for local authorities and schools for a long time. HR would say we’d have to interview people who met the essential criteria and ticked the disability box, but they’d find a reason not to employ them.

Not nonsense, unfortunately.

I am a massive believer in the safety net of benefits and I also have deep sympathy for those who have suffered trauma and other causes of MH. However it cannot possibly be "right" or sustainable that 4m + people in UK are in need of benefits relating to disability.

Also having worked with people recovering from trauma and other MH issues, I would say in many cases, enabling them to withdraw completely from work doesn't help them either

I work in a city centre office. We have several staff either in a wheelchair or using mobility aids like crutches, or a walking frame. We have ramps, lifts, disabled loos, staff who need it have specialised furniture such as special desks. I have colleagues with visual impairments who have specialist keyboards, screens, and software on their computers supplied by the employer as an adjustment for their disability. I have colleagues who are neurodiverse, colleagues with caring responsibilities, all have various reasonable adjustments in place.

I have worked for 3 different large employers in the last 7 years and the same arrangements were in place at all of them.

People seem to think no employers out there have made any concessions for disability?! Obviously there will be some shit employers out there but there are also lots of good ones?

I am sorry Dimples but to leave yourself in a position like that when this could take years to reenact and be put through Parliament why would you do that to yourself? Life is hard enough already without the need to put extra pressure on yourself and leave yourself in a far worse position.

I'm sorry am I not reading and replying to other people fast enough for you? I'm not here for your entertainment ... just go and be happy I'm not claiming benefits anymore

ok.
who was giving you hate and what was the circumstance of the DWP telling you missing bones would grow back
Just being nosey, but which bones?

Government departments should lead by example and offer flexible jobs where possible. And reverse the 60:40 office attendance thing. Maybe incentives for non-gov employers to do likewise.

I hope they’re not just going to introduce nebulous “schemes” and get job centre staff to hand out healthy eating leaflets.

I don’t approve of these cuts. But if they’re happening there needs to be meanigful support in place not soundbites.