So, who is going to employ all these disabled people the government wants to wean of welfare

[Jimisnotmyname]

Really wondering. Not saying it is necessarily a bad thing to encourage those who can work, to work but as a carer for 2 disabled family members, I am hugely struggling to find another job as nobody is willing to give me any flexibility (which I need as a carer) and there are always candidates who do not need the same accomodations I do. I would imagine that many of those currently not in work because of disability or a health condition, will often need a similar level of flexibility. I just wonder who on the the government think will offer jobs galore on these circumstances??

this is so lovely to hear, we need people like you.
my daughter has a physical disability (left school after a levels last year and can’t get a job)
someone just needs to take a chance on her. She is volunteering at the moment and never has time off, Just hoping it pays off for her.
I wish this government woukd stop harping on like disabled people just sit on their bums all day.
anyway rant over !

Id like to respond with something but it'll end up deleted. Your ignorance is disgusting.

Don’t give her the benefit of the doubt, she appears to just be an awful (and very ignorant) person.

She’ll no doubt say that you can go to work in your nightie, have a stoma so you can piss in your wheelchair and wear a nose bag full of smelling salts to stop you passing out.

I sincerely hope she never has reason to regret her attitude because she’s had an accident and is getting it back in spades.

Wonder if they are the same ones who know that all refugees who come to this country are given a 3 bed all mod cons house with all their bills paid on entry. And it simply must be true because they read it in the daily fail somewhere.

Well we can’t tell

@DimplesToadfoot what is the nature of your disability and if you really can’t get up or down stairs is there no help in getting a stair lift or something like that ?

Would you tell a pilot or surgeon that

Are you trying to explain what a sleep disorder is to me?

But yes good point, all this time I’ve been advising others with insomnia to become lorry drivers! Silly me

My boyfriend has a fully remote job but he is also postgrad qualified which is relevant to his job.

Loads of non-verbal jobs - your spelling is wonderful, your sentences are properly constructed. A part-time librarian in a local library?

Erm..why wouldn't they do nmw jobs?

That sounds great until you realise that some people will struggle to get to them due to lack of money, public transport or it clashes with non movable things such as picking up the kids from school.

Nutrition courses are great as long as you can afford to keep it up at home, the kids will eat the food (as you cannot afford to waste food) and you have the means to cook it at home.

I think that the biggest problem is that there is little NHS prevention work going on. People shouldn't have to wait so long that there is a crisis and can they can no longer be "cured" so that they are now permanently unemployable.

Not outrage, just 🙄
you don’t know anything of the sort. You think you know it because the shit rags you read and gobshites on Facebook tell you so. That’s not knowing.

Librarian is a public facing role... Talking to people all day long. Plus you need qualifications

I just think people are way less resilient these days tbh. My best mate has been disabled since birth and can no longer walk, but she has worked full time since the age of 16. I've suffered with depression, anxiety, OCD and insomnia for over 20 years and have always worked full time. It would be very easy for me to say I can't work because of mental health issues, but know if I didn't work I would spiral into depression. It's really not good for mental health staying at home and not working.

The point I am trying to make is many people have little amounts of sleep a night, and have to work manual jobs. Me included. If you were to suffer from deep insomnia, I guess being a pilot is sadly not for you. However there are many other jobs you can do.

Thank you

But I'm fine, I've honestly been worried sick for weeks, now I've ended my claims I can feel my blood pressure lowering and my whole body relaxing ... I've had many a time in my life where I've had nothing. I don't need anything, this house means nothing to me. I learned how to live prison life in the children's home I was raised in, I'm used to calling staff ma'am or sir and covering for the officer in charge who broke my wrist, so I know I'll be fine ... never broken the law in my life and I have no idea what to do but i'll think of something lol

Im not depressed and I'm not having a penny more of NHS resources spent on me :-)

And thank you for editing your post to argue that I get “far more” sleep than others - shall we start measuring how many steps disabled people take compared to each other?

Regardless, it seems you may be the one sleep deprived, as that sentence of mine actually read, “on a good night”, which you seem to have missed. So no, I don’t average 3-4 hours overall.

Employers won’t need to do anything. There is an oversupply of low / unskilled labour, so anyone causing problems is easily replaceable. Those being “forced” back to work will be looking at minimum wage, zero hours contracts and statutory minimum benefits.

The shortage of labour is in the professionally qualified sector of the labour market, especially in STEM areas. These are the employees that can negotiate enhanced terms.

But PIP isn’t there to help people stay off work, everyone misses the point, it’s to help with the additional cost of living with a disability or medical condition. I fail to see what some people’s “additional cost” would be. My amputee friend uses it for an adapted car so she can work as a social worker, I see the need for an additional cost there, but I fail
to see the additional cost of mild MH conditions. You can work and claim PIP, it’s not an out of work benefit. Some people need to get off their arses, pull themselves together and at the very least try! Quit with the excuses. It’s there for the disabled and very sick rightly so, not lazy people.

Plus you need to find a library that hasn't been closed down. The nearest library to me is in a city 20 miles away, the 3 towns near me have all lost theirs.

How did generations before us cope? They didn’t, they died. Things like cancer that’s now survivable, but might lead you to needing adjustments (like people with prostrate cancer) often died. Suicide was a great way out of mental health problems. People that were born with health conditions that they can now survive and live relatively normal lives (again with flexibility and adjustments) often died. We need to ensure that businesses have the incentive and number of staff to give people that need flexibility and adjustments a chance. I have arthritis that I got after contracting a virus aged 17. So far I have been able to work most of the time. Some days I have had to take off as I was just in so much pain I was sobbing in the toilets, despite being on the highest painkillers the drs could give me (and still safely work). As I get older it is going to be more and more painful and difficult for me and I will need an employer that understands this.

Spellcheck. Before I post I have a ton of red lines under most words.
Librarians have to talk to people and I will be honest. I hate books 😂

I hope they look at the needs of complex cases. My DD has tried to take her life several times and has a team working to get her well and able to get an education and work but it’s a long process. The last thing she needs is being shoved into any old job not right for her.