So, who is going to employ all these disabled people the government wants to wean of welfare

[Jimisnotmyname]

Really wondering. Not saying it is necessarily a bad thing to encourage those who can work, to work but as a carer for 2 disabled family members, I am hugely struggling to find another job as nobody is willing to give me any flexibility (which I need as a carer) and there are always candidates who do not need the same accomodations I do. I would imagine that many of those currently not in work because of disability or a health condition, will often need a similar level of flexibility. I just wonder who on the the government think will offer jobs galore on these circumstances??

You're being hopelessly naive. I'm pleased you and your friend are in employment but believe me - from someone, I presume, younger - jobs don't always exist. Disability discrimination, perhaps conscious, perhaps unconscious, is rife. Brain tumour, partial blindness, exhaustion from all the medication, seizures, vertigo. No actual mental health conditions, although I don't discriminate against people who do. An excellent university. What do you think?

Also it's worth remembering when you moan about benefits is that "disabled" is the one minority you can become at any point, but not be born into.

There is currently an average 7 year delay for a diagnosis of FND. People can have both epilepsy and FND. People die from SUDEP due to misdiagnosis.

Which is great and all, but there are PLENTY of ways that HE (and all other) institutions can get around the laws and their own institution's policies to avoid employing folk with disabilities. If you work for one which genuinely doesn't use them, that's good to hear, but let's be honest plenty of then talk the talk with no danger of needing to walk the walk.

This just isn't true though for everyone, certainly not older people. Many jobs, and the ones most in need of filling, don't really have progression opportunities e.g the care sector, not everyone can end up as the care home manager as there's only one of that job.

I do a flexible job since kids and there are zero progression opportunities. Especially as I'm older and have caring responsibilities, I'm unlikely to be picked for any mythical management opportunities that came up. My real terms pay keeps declining.

In many ways leaving autistic people like my son (with moderate learning disabilities) on benefits forever is very wrong. It’s a miserable life, I did it for a few years when he was younger. I want more than that for him hence I am pleased to hear he can try working without losing his benefits, that’s a trap that has kept people stuck on benefits in the fear that if they take job and are unable to mange they have to start claims again.

My friends who have two non verbal autistic daughters will benefit from not having to get them to assessments for PIP etc, They will never work and always require care. They need every penny they get to pay for the care their daughters need.

I can’t work in a call centre. I’m severely deaf. No hearing at all in my right ear, and a 80% loss in my left. I wear a hearing aid and I cannot hear anyone who has an accent. Be it Scottish or Indian. If you have an accent, I struggle badly face to face. On the phone it’s impossible

I'm sincerely so very sorry for what has happened to you and the position you now find yourself in.

I'm disabled and worked without any gaps for 35 years. I've got two degrees and two professional qualifications. I was doing admin work by the time I handed in my notice, because my head of department made it impossible for me to put into practice agreed adjustments that I needed because of my disability.

When I went to the Jobcentre for help with job hunting, I was told that because I didn't qualify for any benefits, I also didn't qualify for job hunting support from the charity they'd outsourced such support to. At that point, I gave up.

I wonder how many people there are like me, who would have liked to be working but found the red tape too big a headache.

No. I'm questioning why you think committing a crime so you become imprisoned and get - as you said - bed and board in prison - is somehow alleviating the burden people are, you say, saying you are to the State? Why should people be glad you're off benefits when they're paying for prison instead?

It does need looked into i could get the same on pip and benefits by saying im depressed than I do working full time at the minute. I am bloody depressed but I try and crack on for financial reasons. If its true about the 4 points u only score 2 points for prompting so everyone with depression could be taken off it if it goes ahead depending on the severity of their depression. Some are for physical conditions again aids only score 2 points this is what worries me those physically disabled needing aids could have it stopped. I definitely agree we need a reform its too easily accessible which sadly may stop those in genuine need from accessing it no other country hands out money like we do but I dont know if this is the correct way to go about it.

A work from home role? Customer care, sales etc.

What an ignorant post. Autism varies massively. My families has 4 adults with Audhd. 3 can and do work. 1 doesn’t. My dd has several
comorbities and the way her autism presents means she can’t work for now and absolutely can’t be shoved in any old job ever. She has had years of treatment and admissions and is still aiming to get an education and job but she and her team absolutely need to be the ones to decide when she can.

Seriously tired of this bullshit try getting pip see how far you get

You might have more luck getting it for being gullible

This, I don't have disabilities but I've not got an interview for a job I managed 15 years ago. Not sure if it's age or being a mother that is the reason (possibly both) but it's pretty clear throughout my job searches that my age and caring (unpaid work) responsibilities count against me.

Most companies want to hire young, fit people without caring responsibilities or need for reasonable adjustments and can just say the young, fit person's experience fits better with their corporate vision or whatever. It's very hard to prove discrimination.

Not somebody in a job centre who has done a course.

It does panic me. My younger sister is autistic, learning disability, ADHD, epilepsy, doubly incontinent - needs carers every day and on call overnight. She isn’t employed, she’s reliant on benefits and the state paying for her home. I don’t know what will happen or where she will go if that falls through, I can’t have her at my home and still keep a job. She has skills and talents but who will employ an adult who needs a carer to walk them to work because they can’t safely cross a road alone? She isn’t entitled to higher rate benefits because on the surface she looks able but she isn’t at all.

Mum is in a care home too (slowly dying) and dad is abroad. I have many, many sleepless nights over this and have decided against having kids or marrying, because I don’t know at what stage I’ll need to move my sister into my house and give up work to help her.

No they won't force someone in a wheelchair to stack shelves.

They simply won't employ that person in the first place.

My mother, who has a diagnosed terminal degenerative neurological condition, wasn't awarded PIP when we applied, and also didn't get the Universal Credit she was entitled too. I had to appeal and fill out form after form, taking in total almost 2 years to get her the benefits she needs to live a basic life. The whole time working extra myself to help financially support her.

I can confidently say that in my experience PIP is not just handed out to people who claim illness with no reasonable evidence. It's hard to get, and I know so many people who deserve it and don't have it because the application process is pitted against disabled people being able to advocate for themselves. The process is grueling and demoralising.

Once again this is a cut that peanalises an already marginalised group, the poor get poorer.

Are you genuinely suggesting I’m “reducing someone’s lived experience” by describing the exact treatment plans that would be recommended by professionals? Treatment plans that millions follow daily, that very rarely end in people being out of work? Two of which I myself follow daily, while working?

There are lots of sectors struggling to fill vacancies

Absolutely crying with laughter people saying pip is "easy" to get check the tribunal stats pip wastes so much money on tribunals they would actually SAVE money by giving people pip the first time around

I read your post which was despicable.
it doesn't matter what came before and I'm not the only one who thinks it was a disgusting comment

Had this exact experience with my mum. They kept saying it was mental health. She has dementia, she’s not spoken now for three years and can’t even wipe her own nose.

I don’t agree that the tax payers should have to pay for my sister and my mum for their whole lives (they pretty much have so far) but I don’t know how I could ever pay for them both myself, I am bottom band 5 in my role and don’t know how I can ever earn enough to pay for my sister’s life as well as mine.

You’ve cherry picked though . I was asked what my autoimmune condition are so listed them but I didn’t say they were the reason I can work. They cause me issues yes but it’s my ASD, FND and psychological issues that are the real problems.

Me too!