So, who is going to employ all these disabled people the government wants to wean of welfare

[Jimisnotmyname]

Really wondering. Not saying it is necessarily a bad thing to encourage those who can work, to work but as a carer for 2 disabled family members, I am hugely struggling to find another job as nobody is willing to give me any flexibility (which I need as a carer) and there are always candidates who do not need the same accomodations I do. I would imagine that many of those currently not in work because of disability or a health condition, will often need a similar level of flexibility. I just wonder who on the the government think will offer jobs galore on these circumstances??

Of course! They've got a next door neighbour who was moved to a mansion in Mayfair paid for by the State. He says he's got fibromyalgia but she often sees him doing the cha cha around his barn of a house. Him and hundreds of others.

I was given my diagnosis as an inpatient

Has there been any thought to whose head is going to be on chopping block if someone forced to work when it’s not suitable runs amok around the work place seriously injuring people or worse and please don’t insult my intelligence by telling me “that would never happen”

Pain like you could compare to bad childbirth, rushing to the loo at short notice, potentially with poo accidents to clean up, fatigue bad enough to stop you from being safe enough to drive to work and make you too brain fogged to be able to think a single sentence clearly when you get there, potential for collapse in diabetic coma, muscle heaviness and weakness, pain for different and unpredictable reasons bad enough to need morphine, rushing to the loo to deal with flooding bleeding. But yeah sure reduce somebody’s lived experience to “just eat a gluten free diet” (newsflash even seasoned coeliacs get glutened by accident), pop steroids, a thyroid pill and an insulin injection, that’s an accurate portrayal.

(I'm not even saying this lot would prevent somebody from working but ffs they are a human with multiple and compounding health conditions, could you please not reduce it to "just eat a gluten free diet, what's your problem".)

I’m autistic too. My boss is autistic and established our entire company’s neurodiversity guidance. From the clarity of your responses, you seem more than capable of doing the work my team does, albeit remotely and with breaks if an office environment/meeting culture is too much for you.

Fnd doesn’t have a conclusive diagnostic test.

As am I. Autistic people can work through anxiety if they aren't taught its an excuse to opt out.

Also employers make accommodation at interviews to accommodate diagnoses.

Ok, well it’s been mine. I work in HE and we are required by law to adhere to protected characteristics and to make reasonable allowances for employees.

If this is about me. I am in my 40s.

But isn't prison paid for, ultimately, by tax? So how is that helpful to those you claim are lambasting you for taking money from society for benefits?

I have only read the first and last pages of this thread, so I apologise if someone has already made this point.
What I noticed straight away in the justifications and reasonings given for the need to cut the benefits bill, was the language and terminology used by Starmer, Kendall, and other government ministers/MPs.
They say the benefits bill is "unsustainable" and "immoral", and it is a tragedy that so many people have been declared unfit for work. Like the country has thrown them on the scrap heap and deprived them of the opportunity to have a job. And we owe it to these people to reduce the benefits bill which will help them find work.
Can you see how astute these guys are being with the words they are using?
Instead of being honest and saying too many people are claiming benefits they don't deserve, and we are targeting them as an easy way to save money the country can't afford, the Government is going to charge in like heroes on white horses and rescue these poor souls, and paint themselves as the "good guys". They are being totally but cleverly disingenuous.
Of course there are people who are gaming the system, but ableism and ageism are also both very much alive and well, and I wonder if Starmer et al realise this, or are choosing not to?

No you’re correct it was a diagnosis of exclusion

We will have to agree to disagree. I stand by my original post

They’re getting rid of 30,000 positions. Where are these jobs going to come from the magic job tree.

This is like my DS. He only does yes and no answers. Any elaborating is beyond him. His life is black and white.

As an autistic person you must also know that no two autistic people present the same. What one person can cope with, another may well not be able to, and not for some BS excuse.

I also worry about who will employ 67 year olds when they can employ fit, spritly 27 year olds, but that is the reality.

Medical evidence of a faux disability is ridiculously easy to aquire, a few trips to the doctors saying you feel lethargic, down, unable to sleep properly and bingo! You are diagnosed with depression. All of the symptoms are freely available on Google. Same for anxiety.
In fact it is harder proving someone doesn't have depression/anxiety than it is to get diagnosed.

Speaking for myself, I was a full time teacher till 5 years ago with no time to use somewhere like Mumsnet.
Thanks to Covid, I now have more time - but am unable to work due to becoming a quadruple amputee (Covid - pneumonia - sepsis).
Not blaming it all on Covid as I think modern pressures including the internet and the rise of mobile phones have a lot to do with it, but in my case Covid is definitely responsible for not being able to work and hence being on mumsnet.

I don't get interviews as I don't get invited to them.

You’re quite wrong. I work in HR in higher education.

I was declined from Tesco applicants when I ticked the disabled box

My ds is like this but not bipolar he has depression and anxiety with ptsd because of something that happened when he was a child. He has worked but now rarely leaves his flat. I am also his appointee I am dreading what will happen to him when I am no longer here. It's just shit.

Not going to happen.

Working is a good in itself and must be encouraged and support given to those who can work in some form. Sitting at home all day every day is a tragedy particularly for young people. Plus the country cannot afford its benefits Bill and it should never be more lucrative to be on benefits than be in work.

What the solution(s) are to the above I just don't know..but it's no good currently.

You have a problem with criminals bring sent to prison? Where do you suggest they go?