All crime docs are about men killing women!

[SwoopDog]

I was trying to find somehing to watch on Netflix last night. Looked at crime documentaries. They're all about men killing women. Or men killing children.

I like a bit of true crime sometimes, but it's actually too much. What the hell have we been putting up with over decades and centuries! There was a guest on Steven Bartletts Diary of a CEO who said the most dangerous person to a woman is her husband! I believe it. We've taken this shit for too long.

I'm mid 40s and I actually got woolfwhistled the other day whilst out for a walk. I liked it. I didnt feel harrassed. That's up to the individual if it makes them feel that way. And personally I would say being shouted and screamed at by your partner is far worse, but you never took that on.

Ffs there is a difference between a woolfwhistle and being groped. A man telling me I'm sexy, great no issue- a man sexually assaulting me? Er no I dont think so.

So just because you like the validation and ego boost you get from wolfwhistles, the culture should prevail?
Your ego boost being more important than the countless women and young girls who find it uncomfortable?

I guess it's a divisive one. You hear from plenty older women who say enjoy the attention because one day you will be invisible, and then plenty women who dont like it.

I'm mid 40s and I actually got woolfwhistled the other day whilst out for a walk. I liked it. I didnt feel harrassed. That's up to the individual if it makes them feel that way. And personally I would say being shouted and screamed at by your partner is far worse, but you never took that on.

No, it's not up to women to not be offended or to not feel harassed. It's up to men to stop behaving in that way. Your need for validation shouldn't mean other women have to put up with being harassed on the street.

As for your comments about domestic abuse. My mum was murdered by her male partner, I campaign and raise money to support women experiencing DV.
So yes, I do 'take that on'.

Ffs I dont need validation but it felt nice! I'm not going to pretend to be upset by it when I'm not. And DV works both ways.

Ffs I dont need validation but it felt nice! I'm not going to pretend to be upset by it when I'm not.
As long you felt nice.....

And DV works both ways.

I knew you'd say this. My male apologist bingo card is filling up pretty fast today. You're a walking cliché
How many men are killed every week by their female partner? You'll be saying they asked for it next .....

So sorry about your mum ❤️
The same happened to my aunt. Two kids on my street were murdered by their dad. That's just the ones i know personally. This needs to be talked about!

So sorry about your mum ❤️
The same happened to my aunt. Two kids on my street were murdered by their dad. That's just the ones i know personally. This needs to be talked about!

Thank you.
I'm sorry to hear that you have experienced something similar.

It doesnt matter if only one man is killed.

I honestly think there is a big difference between a quick woolfwhistle and being targetted or harrassed. I think plenty women would agree. They dont feel violated or concerned by a woolfwhistle. On the other hand if that woolfwhistle turns into a man/men following the woman, cat calling, approaching her then yes that takes it into harassment. You got to have some sense. It's like a woman at work could call me a catty name once- would I run off and tell HR? No. If they continued to do it then yes that's then bullying and I could take it further.

Yep, I was just about to reply that men kill even more men than women. This is, of course, reflected in film & TV - under the category 'Action' because, as in life, men mostly kill men when they're fighting each other. Women as fighting opponents are probably over-represented on screen but, as OP says, it's realistic to portray most murdered women as prey to male killers.

I think the ongoing campaign to de-glamourise murdered females is having an effect, albeit painfully slow. That's some small progress!

It doesnt matter if only one man is killed.
Anyone being murdered is a tragedy. One group of people being routinely murdered by another group means there is trend, something that needs addressing.
The fact is, men are not being routinely by women. So it's a different conversation.

I honestly think there is a big difference between a quick woolfwhistle and being targetted or harrassed. I think plenty women would agree. They dont feel violated or concerned by a woolfwhistle. On the other hand if that woolfwhistle turns into a man/men following the woman, cat calling, approaching her then yes that takes it into harassment. You got to have some sense. It's like a woman at work could call me a catty name once- would I run off and tell HR? No. If they continued to do it then yes that's then bullying and I could take it further.

How can you tell which men are wolf whistling to just tell you how sexy you are from those who are likely to develop that behaviour into something more sinister?

Do you relay statistics like this to men you know?

What does your DH and other men close to you say when you tell them that you think that 96% of them are pervs, predators or peados

There is no way all of them are falling into your 4%

Because it would turn into something more sinister wouldn't it! That's how you know! I could get into an argument with someone in the street over a car accident. They could be the type of person to just raise their voice or they could be someone who would floor me. I would know by what happens.

I've got an image about this.

and a couple more (possibly) thought-provoking images for @Anchorage56 and @SeaShellsSanctuary1

Because it would turn into something more sinister wouldn't it! That's how you know! I could get into an argument with someone in the street over a car accident. They could be the type of person to just raise their voice or they could be someone who would floor me. I would know by what happens.

So we just cross our fingers and hope for the best? Might be just a wolf whistle or might turn into sexual assault - who knows?!

That's a fairly good graphic but not based on anything.

So we just cross our fingers and hope for the best?

Of course! Women should always give men the benefit of the doubt, especially when they're behaving like predators. #bekind. Surely you started learning this in primary school, when that boy was always insulting or chasing you and your elders smiled "He's doing that because he likes you!"

@GarlicStyle not sure why you tagged me, my post was a genuine question to the OP not a request for statistics.

I'm not here to question numbers, I'd be interested to know what the OPs family feel when she categorises them in this way

Yes! It's called life. You dont know what any stranger in the street will do or not do. You dont know who is crazy or not. Who is a serial killer or not. They dont have it on their forehead.

Yes! It's called life. You dont know what any stranger in the street will do or not do. You dont know who is crazy or not. Who is a serial killer or not. They dont have it on their forehead.

But men who wolf whistle are already demonstrating problematic behaviour. They are not doing that because they are nice guys, nice guys don't do that.
You are saying that it's a woman's job to manage the consequences of that behaviour, if we're offended then it's our own fault.

So we know these guys already objectify women and are happy to display that behaviour in public. Therefore I will see them as a threat immediately because I don't know if they will stop at the wolf whistle.

I'm not here to question numbers, I'd be interested to know what the OPs family feel when she categorises them in this way

My DH knows my feelings. He agrees with me!
He will spot and challenge problematic male behaviour. He knows there is an issue that needs addressing.

I agree 'nice guys' dont woolfwhistle because they are generally quiet as mice and dont have the outward confidence. It depends if you view a woolfwhistle as problematic behaviour. I've had both men and women stop me in the street to tell me something complimentary about my appearance and whilst a whistle is agreeably a little more sexual it's still a token of appreciation.

I agree 'nice guys' dont woolfwhistle because they are generally quiet as mice and dont have the outward confidence.

Bollocks. I know lots of very confident, extroverted men who are nice guys and are capable of treating women with respect.

It depends if you view a woolfwhistle as problematic behaviour. I've had both men and women stop me in the street to tell me something complimentary about my appearance and whilst a whistle is agreeably a little more sexual it's still a token of appreciation.

A wolf whistle is literally a man whistling at you as though you are a dog. They aren't complimenting you. They are viewing you as an object.
A personalised compliment spoken to your face is a million miles away from a man seeing a women and whistling at her as though she was an animal.