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To take away dd(13)s en-suite?

521 replies

thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 16:00

Dd(13) has bedroom with an ensuite, 3 year old is at the moment in a tiny room that basically just fits a bed and wardrobe.

We want to combine dd’s en-suite and DH’s office to make decent size bedroom for 3 year old.

Up until dd(13) was 11 and we moved to a bigger house she always had to share with either younger brother or older step sister.

She thinks as she had to share until she was 11, that younger siblings should share until then or be lucky and get tiny room of their own. And that by the time toddler is that age she will move out and she can have her room.

Is it unreasonable to take away her en-suite?

OP posts:
Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 08:42

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 16/03/2025 07:23

If this is what some teenagers are being told to expect just imagine what future employers are going to have to put up with 🤦‍♀️ it’s crazy.

Some people's entitlement is staggering. No wonder some teenagers can't self manage.

2chocolateoranges · 16/03/2025 09:13

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 15/03/2025 17:42

So? Not likely a 20yo will be living at home full time.

I lived at home until i was 23, dh was 26!

I have a 23 year old at home in a graduate job with another year of exams to go who is saving furiously to get an mortgage and a 21 year old who has another year of university to go.

Out of my adult children’s friends, none have their own home. They all still stay wih their parents.

house prices are astronomical!

and on a side note, my 23 year old has a bedroom that’s got enough space for a bed and a wardrobe. Tiny bedroom but he manages.

LBFseBrom · 16/03/2025 09:29

My late husband lived with his parents, occupying a tiny bedroom, until we married when he was 26. Even when he was a student! That was in 1975. I always said never marry a man straight from his parents' home, they are a different type altogether to those who have shared flats or whatever and had to do things for themselves and pay household bills. It's better to be hard up and independent. I lived in all sorts of grotty places and am glad I had that experience.

SemperIdem · 16/03/2025 09:31

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 15/03/2025 23:15

I would let her keep it. With periods it makes so much difference. The 3 year old doesn't need a big room for another 8-10 years. It will cause resentment and be expensive and for what?

What do you mean? Shared bathrooms usually have doors and locks. What difference does having periods make?

LBFseBrom · 16/03/2025 09:42

SemperIdem · 16/03/2025 09:31

What do you mean? Shared bathrooms usually have doors and locks. What difference does having periods make?

I think having periods makes a lot of difference. Girls naturally want more privacy when their periods start, I know I did and that was very many years ago. I did have my own room but absolutely no privacy which I hated and resented. If two girls are close in age they will soon both be having periods and probably won't mind too much, they will understand and support each other. Also not everyone has a big enough house for children to have their own room so everyone has to make the best of it.

However the op is not talking about a single occupancy bedroom but an en suite. That is a wonderful thing for anyone to have, I'd have absolutely loved it but there was no chance. It would be a bad move to take that away from her daughter after she has been used to having one.

BeMoreAmandaland · 16/03/2025 09:52

Yanbu

Personal preference but I'm wary of teens having en suites because I fear them being able to hide developing eating disorders, given the insane social pressures on body image (it was bad enough when I was their age)

Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 10:00

Privacy is not an issue for this girl, or anyone else in the household, periods or not. They each have a bedroom. There are 6 bathrooms.
It's not a problem.

IDoWhateverItTakes · 16/03/2025 10:10

thatsfunnybecause · 15/03/2025 17:54

I will, I thought it would be confusing and unnecessary too .

DSD (15) has attic room on top floor, there is a toilet and sink up there also.

DH and I have master bedroom with en-suite

DD(13) has bedroom with en-suite.

DS(9) and DS(5) just have normal sized rooms

DD(3) is in a box room, there is also an almost equal sized box room that is used as an office at the moment

Just make the office a 'play room' for the 3 year old since you don't need the office based on your plans to lose it anyway.

Kpo58 · 16/03/2025 10:24

I would take the ensuite away and make the office into a larger bedroom. There is too much obsession with a toilet each for everyone in a household which is getting ridiculous. The only time I wouldn't is if the DD had IBS or a similar medical issue.

Clavinova · 16/03/2025 10:59

soupyspoon · 16/03/2025 07:12

But this child doesnt need to shower downstairs, there is a bathroom with a shower upstairs

And even if she did, as other posters have referenced, so many posters here including you are completely out of touch with how most peoples houses are arranged. There are millions of properties with one and only downstairs bathroom, off the kitchen. Family homes, completely usable and appropriate.

This thread is just staggering

I was replying to a poster who said there are 'plenty of options for the teen to have privacy using a bathroom' - I was pointing out that one of the options was in her parents' bedroom and another on the ground floor - so not really 'plenty' of options.

There are millions of properties with one and only downstairs bathroom, off the kitchen. Family homes, completely usable and appropriate.

And how many of those properties house a family of seven? Sounds a bit slum-like to me.

SpideyVerse · 16/03/2025 11:32

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 15/03/2025 18:25

I would leave you DD with an ensuite.

Your 3 yo has access to a playroom or can play in the the main room. It sounds like they have plenty of space.

Maybe later on you can switch bedrooms? One of the older ones might like the box room and the office space for studying or gaming?

Yes, might one of the boys jump at trading his normal sized room for two smaller ones (ie one to sleep/chill in plus his own play or study/gaming room)?

WhiteRosesAndCandles · 16/03/2025 11:52

My boys would absolutely prefer two rooms @SpideyVerse

It would keep a bedroom with an ensuite for guests.

SemperIdem · 16/03/2025 12:24

@LBFseBrom sorry, perhaps I’m being dense but having been a teenage girl, and still have periods now, I am absolutely at a loss as to how much more “privacy” one needs than a bedroom/a bathroom with a door which locks.

I say that as a very private person, in all respects.

Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 12:35

Clavinova · 16/03/2025 10:59

I was replying to a poster who said there are 'plenty of options for the teen to have privacy using a bathroom' - I was pointing out that one of the options was in her parents' bedroom and another on the ground floor - so not really 'plenty' of options.

There are millions of properties with one and only downstairs bathroom, off the kitchen. Family homes, completely usable and appropriate.

And how many of those properties house a family of seven? Sounds a bit slum-like to me.

Slum like? Oh my god, I grew up in a slum, and millions in the UK are still living in them! 😂

soupyspoon · 16/03/2025 12:38

Clavinova · 16/03/2025 10:59

I was replying to a poster who said there are 'plenty of options for the teen to have privacy using a bathroom' - I was pointing out that one of the options was in her parents' bedroom and another on the ground floor - so not really 'plenty' of options.

There are millions of properties with one and only downstairs bathroom, off the kitchen. Family homes, completely usable and appropriate.

And how many of those properties house a family of seven? Sounds a bit slum-like to me.

Theres a family bathroom on the same floor, she doesnt have to be schlepping in and out of her mums ensuite

Slum like!!!!

Fucking hell, really get over yourself, get in touch with the real world.

Im out!!!

Christmasmorale · 16/03/2025 12:41

Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 12:35

Slum like? Oh my god, I grew up in a slum, and millions in the UK are still living in them! 😂

I was today years old when I learnt I grew up in a slum 😂

here’s me thinking the 4 bed 2 bath our family of 7 moved to when I was 12 was a luxury- certainly was an upgrade from the flats we had lived in mind. turns out it was still poverty

Clavinova · 16/03/2025 12:44

Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 12:35

Slum like? Oh my god, I grew up in a slum, and millions in the UK are still living in them! 😂

You lived in a family of seven with only one bathroom/toilet - located next to the kitchen? Poor you.

Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 12:49

Clavinova · 16/03/2025 12:44

You lived in a family of seven with only one bathroom/toilet - located next to the kitchen? Poor you.

No. Not poor me. We were fine. Millions like us. The house was clean and warm, we were well fed and our education was a priority.
This will shock you - even more recently, me and my husband raised 3 children in a house with one bathroom! They're all successful adults, so seem to have survived it well!

Clavinova · 16/03/2025 12:50

soupyspoon · 16/03/2025 12:38

Theres a family bathroom on the same floor, she doesnt have to be schlepping in and out of her mums ensuite

Slum like!!!!

Fucking hell, really get over yourself, get in touch with the real world.

Im out!!!

I didn't say there wasn't a family bathroom she could use on the same floor - I said a family of seven sharing one bathroom off the kitchen sounds a bit slum-like.

Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 12:50

soupyspoon · 16/03/2025 12:38

Theres a family bathroom on the same floor, she doesnt have to be schlepping in and out of her mums ensuite

Slum like!!!!

Fucking hell, really get over yourself, get in touch with the real world.

Im out!!!

This is extraordinary, isn't it?!
The wealth and privilege on here.....

Clavinova · 16/03/2025 12:52

Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 12:49

No. Not poor me. We were fine. Millions like us. The house was clean and warm, we were well fed and our education was a priority.
This will shock you - even more recently, me and my husband raised 3 children in a house with one bathroom! They're all successful adults, so seem to have survived it well!

Why did you stop at 3 children? It would only shock me if you raised 5 children with one bathroom with teens/young adults still at home.

SemperIdem · 16/03/2025 12:54

@Clavinova you have lived a sheltered life if that is shocking to you and for that, you must truly feel blessed.

Clavinova · 16/03/2025 12:59

soupyspoon
There are millions of properties with one and only downstairs bathroom, off the kitchen

It would appear to be thousands of properties rather than millions;

“Downstairs bathrooms are usually found in older properties accessed through the kitchen and despite them featuring in thousands of homes across the UK, they divide opinion,” says Dan Simson, head of home insurance at Direct Line.

https://www.estateagenttoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2018/09/its-an-early-bath-for-downstairs-bathrooms-agents-say-they-wipe-off-value/

Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 13:10

Clavinova · 16/03/2025 12:52

Why did you stop at 3 children? It would only shock me if you raised 5 children with one bathroom with teens/young adults still at home.

Why did I stop at 3 children? Blimey, that's a personal question!
Perhaps growing up in a slum limited my ability to reproduce on a larger scale, I really don't know 😂

Cathandkin · 16/03/2025 13:13

Well. This has been most enlightening. It's the first time someone has said "poor you" on hearing about how I grew up.
Extraordinary.

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