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Judith Evans: Teacher who abused pupil

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wretchedmood · 15/03/2025 14:33

Teacher who sexually abused pupil jailed for two years

Not a trans person.
Not a drag queen.

And she only got TWO years.

My AIBU?

I WOULDN'T be unreasonable to think if this WAS a trans person or a drag queen, there would be endless screeching calling to ban ALL trans people or drag queens from schools.

But it's not.

Two years. That's all she got.

Judith Evans appeared at Belfast Crown Court on Friday

Published
14 March 2025

A teacher who sexually abused a teenage pupil has been jailed for two years and been placed on the sex offenders register for life.

Judith Evans, 33, of Elmwood Grove in Newtownabbey, County Antrim, admitted grooming and having sexual intercourse with a schoolboy.

She was a teacher at Belfast Boys' Model School when the offences occurred.

Speaking after the hearing at Belfast Crown Court on Friday, a senior police officer described Evans as a "cold, calculating child predator".

Evans, a mother of two, was sentenced to a total of four years - half of which will be served in custody and half on licence after her release.

She admitted several charges including sexual communication with a child, meeting a child following sexual grooming, sexual activity with a child involving penetration and possessing indecent images of the schoolboy.

The offences were committed between 1 March and 17 May 2024.

Evans also admitted perverting the course of justice between 13 and 27 June 2024, by making a false allegation that she was sexually assaulted by the teenager.

Evans was given a five-year Sexual Offences Prevention Order, banning her from working with children and vulnerable people.

'Explicit videos and images'

Imposing the sentence, the judge said Evans had "groomed this child, who was vulnerable by reason of age and personal circumstances, basking in his adolescent attraction towards her".

The court heard that Evans and the child exchanged thousands of text messages, the majority of which were sexually explicit, and that she sent him explicit videos and images.

They also met outside of school on three occasions and Evans drove them to locations including Black Mountain and Nutt's Corner, where they engaged in sexual activities, including intercourse.

The court heard that Evans's offending began when the child was going through a "hard time" and she began keeping him behind at school when she noticed a change in his demeanour.

The boy opened up to her and Evans gave him her personal phone number and email address, after which they began messaging each other.

The judge said that, from an early stage, the messages were sexual in nature.

'Profound effect on victim'

The boy ran away and threatened to take his own life after his family became aware of the contact from Evans and the police became involved.

Evans was arrested in May 2024 and during a police interview she replied "no comment" to all questions.

When she was interviewed again in June that year, she claimed that the teenager had threatened her and raped her in her car.

She also told police that he would show her a picture of him holding a gun and that his father was in the Ulster Defence Association (UDA), a loyalist paramilitary group.

The judge said "every aspect of that account was false".

"There is no question that the defendant's behaviour and the aftermath of the discovery of these offences has had a profound effect on this young victim and his family," added the judge.

"Teenagers need protection because their immaturity prevents them from appreciating the long-term harm caused by inappropriate sexual activity."

'Selfish desire for attention'

As Evans wept in the dock, the judge said her two children were now being cared for by their father and that she was "struggling to cope with her current circumstances".

The judge added that while Evans had reported a number of traumatic events in her life and had expressed remorse and guilt over the harm she had caused, there was a lack of explanation regarding her offending.

The judge said: "In truth, there is no explanation other than a selfish desire for attention and intimacy, which she considered was lacking in her relationship at that time."

Evans has accepted "she will never teach again", said the judge.

A spokesperson for Belfast Boys' Model School said they recognised "what a difficult and distressing time this has been for the young person".

"We fully understand the impact this has caused throughout the wider school community and would reassure all pupils and staff that the protection, safety and wellbeing of our pupils continues to be our highest priority."

The spokesperson added that the school has "robust safeguarding processes".

'Cold, calculating predator'

Det Ch Insp Jill Duffie of the Police Service of Northern Ireland described Evans as a "cold, calculating child predator who abused her position of trust by taking advantage of a young boy".

"She preyed on his vulnerabilities and built an inappropriate 'friendship' with the boy before then further grooming him and sexually exploiting him.

Det Ch Insp Jill Duffie spoke outside court following the sentencing

"The messages exchanged between her and her underage pupil were highly sexual and nothing short of sickening.

"As a result of the abuse he was subjected to, the victim has suffered greatly with mental health struggles and has shown immense bravery to bring her to justice today."

The senior officer said there was "still a societal stigma surrounding male victims of abuse" and she encouraged anyone who had been abused in a similar way to contact police.

Judith Evans standing in front of a glass door. She is wearing a blue coat, a flowery top and carrying a handbag.

Judith Evans: Teacher who abused pupil jailed for two years

The woman admitted grooming and having sexual intercourse with a teenage schoolboy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjd9vv2nylo

OP posts:
Tandora · 17/03/2025 18:55

Nameychangington · 17/03/2025 18:40

I know, like people who think they can unilaterally decide to change the meaning of words, so that woman, instead of meaning 'adult human female', means, 'people of either sex who like skirts'. It really is very arrogant.

Unilaterally change the meaning of words.

I don’t think you understand how language works.
Oh and for the last time being trans has nothing to do with skirts.
Annnyway.

AnSolas · 17/03/2025 19:01

Tandora · 17/03/2025 18:03

presumably in practice this will always be the case. She will never be able to get another job working with children as this offence will show up on every CRB check

The question would be is the sex offenders register and/or her criminal conviction shared internationaly and is both her maiden family and married name recorded on it.

As for "trans" if she applied change her name to Jude etc is there an independant criminal history check done before she gets a new change of name birth cert ?
If not she could use it and other documents to apply for a GRC which could also open up the way to a new NI number and passport.

Women are more likely to have a broken career history due to child and other care responsibility.
A woman is likely to have finished her education under her maiden name and it would not be unusual to request new document for a "married" name.

So a teacher who is a woman and who sex offends has a higher chance of evading detection by circumventing safeguards than a teacher who is a man.

Tandora · 17/03/2025 19:32

AnSolas · 17/03/2025 19:01

The question would be is the sex offenders register and/or her criminal conviction shared internationaly and is both her maiden family and married name recorded on it.

As for "trans" if she applied change her name to Jude etc is there an independant criminal history check done before she gets a new change of name birth cert ?
If not she could use it and other documents to apply for a GRC which could also open up the way to a new NI number and passport.

Women are more likely to have a broken career history due to child and other care responsibility.
A woman is likely to have finished her education under her maiden name and it would not be unusual to request new document for a "married" name.

So a teacher who is a woman and who sex offends has a higher chance of evading detection by circumventing safeguards than a teacher who is a man.

You’re required to list all previous names on a DBS, and risk prosecution if you don’t.

blubberyboo · 17/03/2025 20:03

Tandora · 17/03/2025 18:02

Trans identified people should not use their unscientific beliefs about themselves to..

The arrogance ,
presumption and judgement of some people will never cease to astonish me.

Yes I find it astonishing too when some people use their unscientific beliefs about themselves to access rights of other people. That they have the presumption that other people should just play along, and judge others for not wanting to participate

Mental isn't it!

AnSolas · 17/03/2025 20:21

Tandora · 17/03/2025 19:32

You’re required to list all previous names on a DBS, and risk prosecution if you don’t.

In the Uk thats a risk.
But she can travel anywhere she likes once her term is done.
So its down to the DBS being able to link data and if a GRC gives her a new legal sex and NI number and passport in a new name is the system robust enough to detect someone who acts with a criminal intent.

Tandora · 17/03/2025 20:29

blubberyboo · 17/03/2025 20:03

Yes I find it astonishing too when some people use their unscientific beliefs about themselves to access rights of other people. That they have the presumption that other people should just play along, and judge others for not wanting to participate

Mental isn't it!

unscientific beliefs about themselves to access rights of other people?

i wish you could hear yourself.

Tandora · 17/03/2025 20:30

AnSolas · 17/03/2025 20:21

In the Uk thats a risk.
But she can travel anywhere she likes once her term is done.
So its down to the DBS being able to link data and if a GRC gives her a new legal sex and NI number and passport in a new name is the system robust enough to detect someone who acts with a criminal intent.

Yes overseas she could get away with it I guess

AnSolas · 17/03/2025 21:48

Tandora · 17/03/2025 20:30

Yes overseas she could get away with it I guess

She is in NI, she could commute cross the border on a daily basis.

Tandora · 17/03/2025 21:59

I think that’s a bit far fetched

blubberyboo · 17/03/2025 22:28

Tandora · 17/03/2025 20:29

unscientific beliefs about themselves to access rights of other people?

i wish you could hear yourself.

Edited

What do you mean?

You have repeatedly asserted on this thread that "a transwoman is someone observed male at birth but with a female gender"

What is this thing called " a female gender"??

It's not observable or measurable. It's not even real therefore it is NOT scientific.

Maybe you should try hearing yourself. Your problem is not that I'm saying anything incorrect it's just that you don't think it's being nice.

Truth isn't nice and transidentified people do not get to bring their beliefs to the table as truth.

Tandora · 17/03/2025 22:56

blubberyboo · 17/03/2025 22:28

What do you mean?

You have repeatedly asserted on this thread that "a transwoman is someone observed male at birth but with a female gender"

What is this thing called " a female gender"??

It's not observable or measurable. It's not even real therefore it is NOT scientific.

Maybe you should try hearing yourself. Your problem is not that I'm saying anything incorrect it's just that you don't think it's being nice.

Truth isn't nice and transidentified people do not get to bring their beliefs to the table as truth.

Truth isn't nice

😂🫣. Gets more bonkers on here by the day.

(Ps Theres an absolute tonne of scientific literature about being trans. I suggest reading some- and not just those very few articles cherry picked by anti trans lobby groups like transgender trend before you send me a link thataway).

blubberyboo · 17/03/2025 23:25

Tandora · 17/03/2025 22:56

Truth isn't nice

😂🫣. Gets more bonkers on here by the day.

(Ps Theres an absolute tonne of scientific literature about being trans. I suggest reading some- and not just those very few articles cherry picked by anti trans lobby groups like transgender trend before you send me a link thataway).

Edited

You actually think the phrase "truth isn't nice" is bonkers. Seriously you haven't got an argument at all, you just pick out snippets of sentences in derision to try to detract from the fact you believe in something that is unproven and unscientific.

No there isn't any scientific evidence proving that some males are actually female. None. It remains entirely a belief system as is the belief that there is such a thing as a "female gender"

Whereas there IS plenty of evidence that the 2 sexes are different, not interchangeable and that there are only 2 sexes and not 72 genders. Funny how you want to ignore all THAT evidence. And you have the neck to call other people bonkers

Tandora · 18/03/2025 02:32

blubberyboo · 17/03/2025 23:25

You actually think the phrase "truth isn't nice" is bonkers. Seriously you haven't got an argument at all, you just pick out snippets of sentences in derision to try to detract from the fact you believe in something that is unproven and unscientific.

No there isn't any scientific evidence proving that some males are actually female. None. It remains entirely a belief system as is the belief that there is such a thing as a "female gender"

Whereas there IS plenty of evidence that the 2 sexes are different, not interchangeable and that there are only 2 sexes and not 72 genders. Funny how you want to ignore all THAT evidence. And you have the neck to call other people bonkers

Go Ahead Yes GIF

.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 18/03/2025 08:15

Ps Theres an absolute tonne of scientific literature about being trans. I suggest reading some- and not just those very few articles cherry picked by anti trans lobby groups like transgender trend before you send me a link thataway

posters would honestly love to be given links to all this science which proves its a scientific fact and is about to replace gcse biology in every school

sincerely i think posters would be pleased that its proved once and for all

Tandora · 18/03/2025 08:45

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 18/03/2025 08:15

Ps Theres an absolute tonne of scientific literature about being trans. I suggest reading some- and not just those very few articles cherry picked by anti trans lobby groups like transgender trend before you send me a link thataway

posters would honestly love to be given links to all this science which proves its a scientific fact and is about to replace gcse biology in every school

sincerely i think posters would be pleased that its proved once and for all

No idea why you would think “it” (whatever “ it” is) would “replace GCSE biology”, what a curious suggestion. Being trans is simply another facet of human (biological and social) diversity. It doesn’t “replace” anything.

There’s a tonne of scientific literature about trans people- freely accessible to you if you care to educate yourself (as apposed to becoming increasingly radicalised to reject trans people by social media).

Again- annnyyyway.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 18/03/2025 13:22

Tandora · 18/03/2025 08:45

No idea why you would think “it” (whatever “ it” is) would “replace GCSE biology”, what a curious suggestion. Being trans is simply another facet of human (biological and social) diversity. It doesn’t “replace” anything.

There’s a tonne of scientific literature about trans people- freely accessible to you if you care to educate yourself (as apposed to becoming increasingly radicalised to reject trans people by social media).

Again- annnyyyway.

Bollocks

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 18/03/2025 13:29

No idea why you would think “it” (whatever “ it” is) would “replace GCSE biology”, what a curious suggestion. Being trans is simply another facet of human (biological and social) diversity. It doesn’t “replace” anything

quite obviously if there was scientific proof the gcse biology textbooks would be amended to show it

same with any other scientific breakthrough

but as usual you have nothing…

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 18/03/2025 13:31

I picked that bit out but obviously my first bollocks was referring to whole of your post

Tandora · 18/03/2025 16:31

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 18/03/2025 13:29

No idea why you would think “it” (whatever “ it” is) would “replace GCSE biology”, what a curious suggestion. Being trans is simply another facet of human (biological and social) diversity. It doesn’t “replace” anything

quite obviously if there was scientific proof the gcse biology textbooks would be amended to show it

same with any other scientific breakthrough

but as usual you have nothing…

the gcse biology textbooks would be amended to show it

to show what exactly ? 🥴
Last I checked gcse textbooks were not claiming to provide a comprehensive encyclopaedia of all different categories of human persons / diversity?
Not sure what you are expecting of them?
(If they were this, they def would include trans people btw).

MushMonster · 18/03/2025 17:34

Tandora · 17/03/2025 18:03

presumably in practice this will always be the case. She will never be able to get another job working with children as this offence will show up on every CRB check

I do hope so!

Pombearsallday · 19/03/2025 14:30

AnSolas · 17/03/2025 11:16

Yes I literally put the sections in my post to you?

Feel free to quote any full post of mine and point out exactly where and why you feel I being uncareful with language or where I normalised child sex abuse or child abuse.

Vague "hand waving" of what you may be thinking is not useful.

You seem very aggressive in someone
I am being blunt if you find that my being blunt is agressive you can continue to feel that way.

remindinging you pretty politely that you are perhaps subconsciously using language that normalises this behaviour.

Feel free to quote where you believe me to be subconsciously using language and point out exactly where and why you think this is happening otherwise you are wasting both our time as your personal perception remains just a unspoken personal observation.

But thanks for pasting more of your weird language highlighting the same issue.

Again peehaps if you not are looking for a gotcha you could have the courtesy to point out exactly what your problem is with a specific post?

To make it easier how about you take my post and break it down and reword it using words and terms which you believe would help highlight where you are having problems?

We both may learn something from that type of exchange.

Pedophiles and their victims are not "having sex", they're abusing children.

You may have a belief on what happened during the events which led to the woman been found guilty of child sex offences. But the law is clear a jury member has to agree with the CPS that a sex offence against a child has been proven to have happened before the jury member can return a guilty verdict.

Calling it a social taboo is also weird as well.

Can you expand on what you are referring to when using the word "it" ?
what words and terms you have removed and subsituted with the word "it" and what specific relevance do these words or terms have to any of my posts?

HTH
You may feel you are being helpful but imo your posts are too vague and read as a gotcha

What a load of waffle. I did quote your post and highlighted all the necessary relevant parts. You type a lot for someone who doesn't want to address the actual post you're responding to. You used the words social taboo, why don't YOU say what you were referring to because the subject is sexual abuse of children. That's not a "taboo".
Stop equating child abuse and rape with sex - easy. Sexual offences are not and shouldn't be flippantly referred to as "sex" which is what we call consensual sexual activity between two adults.
HTH

AnSolas · 19/03/2025 18:14

Pombearsallday · 19/03/2025 14:30

What a load of waffle. I did quote your post and highlighted all the necessary relevant parts. You type a lot for someone who doesn't want to address the actual post you're responding to. You used the words social taboo, why don't YOU say what you were referring to because the subject is sexual abuse of children. That's not a "taboo".
Stop equating child abuse and rape with sex - easy. Sexual offences are not and shouldn't be flippantly referred to as "sex" which is what we call consensual sexual activity between two adults.
HTH

You are a rather determined to play the vague "hand waving" game of what you may be thinking must be clear in your posts.

Pombearsallday · Today 17:36
AnSolas · Today 09:58
Why do you think she is at low/medium risk of offending?
Sexual reproduction is an instinct and needed to ensure humans as any animal continues to exist as a species.
She broke multiple social taboo and professional standards and the law (which she was trained to understand) to have sex with the child . So what basis are you going on that she is not a high risk offender?
Show quote history
Do you think that a sexually mature adult who has a sex drive will stop seeking sex?
Why did she choose a child for sex?
Perhaps you could stop using the terms sexual attraction, obtaining sex or having sex with when you're taking about an adult abusing a child. Clearly you are on some sort of gotcha trail with PP but you're being really uncareful with your language in a way that is normalising child abuse.

This is what you cliped from my post
Do you think that a sexually mature adult who has a sex drive will stop seeking sex?

Question 1
Can you explain where you believe me to be consciously or subconsciously using language that normalises this behaviour [I am assuming the word "this" referrs to the adult teacher engaging in sexual offending against a student entrusted into her professional care] and point out exactly where and why in your opinion this sentence is me being "really uncareful with your language in a way that is normalising child abuse."

Question 2
To make it easier can you take my sentence and break it down and reword it using words and terms which you believe would help highlight where you are having problems?

Why did she choose a child for sex?

Question 3
Can you explain where you believe me to be consciously or subconsciously using language that normalises this behaviour [I am assuming the word "this" referrs to the adult teacher engaging in sexual offending against a student entrusted into her professional care] and point out exactly where and why in your opinion this sentence is me being "really uncareful with your language in a way that is normalising child abuse."

Question 4
To make it easier can you take my sentence and break it down and reword it using words and terms which you believe would help highlight where you are having problems?

You used the words social taboo, why don't YOU say what you were referring to because the subject is sexual abuse of children. That's not a "taboo".

Question 5
Did you bother ask?

Question 6
Did you bother to read what I wrote?

Question 7
If you did why did you not bother to notice I said she broke multiple social taboo and that made her more likely to be a high risk sex offender?

Question 8
Do you understand what the word "taboo" means?

You may not be capable of making the link but the reason that her actions were deemed to unacceptable is because of the UKs recognition of a specific social taboo. In the UK her actions were deemed to be worthy of being subject to criminal sanctions as her breaking that social toboo was recognised as being harmful to children and society as a whole.

Stop equating child abuse and rape with sex - easy. Sexual offences are not and shouldn't be flippantly referred to as "sex" which is what we call consensual sexual activity between two adults.

Could you please do your local court a civic service and make sure you are not included on the voter role.

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AmusedOpalShaker · 20/03/2025 09:55

I really don’t understand how Drag Queens are even relevant to this situation? Utterly bizarre to mention that.

Nonces are gonna nonce, unfortunately, whatever they do in their spare time.

Obviously the sentence is too short.

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