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Judith Evans: Teacher who abused pupil

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wretchedmood · 15/03/2025 14:33

Teacher who sexually abused pupil jailed for two years

Not a trans person.
Not a drag queen.

And she only got TWO years.

My AIBU?

I WOULDN'T be unreasonable to think if this WAS a trans person or a drag queen, there would be endless screeching calling to ban ALL trans people or drag queens from schools.

But it's not.

Two years. That's all she got.

Judith Evans appeared at Belfast Crown Court on Friday

Published
14 March 2025

A teacher who sexually abused a teenage pupil has been jailed for two years and been placed on the sex offenders register for life.

Judith Evans, 33, of Elmwood Grove in Newtownabbey, County Antrim, admitted grooming and having sexual intercourse with a schoolboy.

She was a teacher at Belfast Boys' Model School when the offences occurred.

Speaking after the hearing at Belfast Crown Court on Friday, a senior police officer described Evans as a "cold, calculating child predator".

Evans, a mother of two, was sentenced to a total of four years - half of which will be served in custody and half on licence after her release.

She admitted several charges including sexual communication with a child, meeting a child following sexual grooming, sexual activity with a child involving penetration and possessing indecent images of the schoolboy.

The offences were committed between 1 March and 17 May 2024.

Evans also admitted perverting the course of justice between 13 and 27 June 2024, by making a false allegation that she was sexually assaulted by the teenager.

Evans was given a five-year Sexual Offences Prevention Order, banning her from working with children and vulnerable people.

'Explicit videos and images'

Imposing the sentence, the judge said Evans had "groomed this child, who was vulnerable by reason of age and personal circumstances, basking in his adolescent attraction towards her".

The court heard that Evans and the child exchanged thousands of text messages, the majority of which were sexually explicit, and that she sent him explicit videos and images.

They also met outside of school on three occasions and Evans drove them to locations including Black Mountain and Nutt's Corner, where they engaged in sexual activities, including intercourse.

The court heard that Evans's offending began when the child was going through a "hard time" and she began keeping him behind at school when she noticed a change in his demeanour.

The boy opened up to her and Evans gave him her personal phone number and email address, after which they began messaging each other.

The judge said that, from an early stage, the messages were sexual in nature.

'Profound effect on victim'

The boy ran away and threatened to take his own life after his family became aware of the contact from Evans and the police became involved.

Evans was arrested in May 2024 and during a police interview she replied "no comment" to all questions.

When she was interviewed again in June that year, she claimed that the teenager had threatened her and raped her in her car.

She also told police that he would show her a picture of him holding a gun and that his father was in the Ulster Defence Association (UDA), a loyalist paramilitary group.

The judge said "every aspect of that account was false".

"There is no question that the defendant's behaviour and the aftermath of the discovery of these offences has had a profound effect on this young victim and his family," added the judge.

"Teenagers need protection because their immaturity prevents them from appreciating the long-term harm caused by inappropriate sexual activity."

'Selfish desire for attention'

As Evans wept in the dock, the judge said her two children were now being cared for by their father and that she was "struggling to cope with her current circumstances".

The judge added that while Evans had reported a number of traumatic events in her life and had expressed remorse and guilt over the harm she had caused, there was a lack of explanation regarding her offending.

The judge said: "In truth, there is no explanation other than a selfish desire for attention and intimacy, which she considered was lacking in her relationship at that time."

Evans has accepted "she will never teach again", said the judge.

A spokesperson for Belfast Boys' Model School said they recognised "what a difficult and distressing time this has been for the young person".

"We fully understand the impact this has caused throughout the wider school community and would reassure all pupils and staff that the protection, safety and wellbeing of our pupils continues to be our highest priority."

The spokesperson added that the school has "robust safeguarding processes".

'Cold, calculating predator'

Det Ch Insp Jill Duffie of the Police Service of Northern Ireland described Evans as a "cold, calculating child predator who abused her position of trust by taking advantage of a young boy".

"She preyed on his vulnerabilities and built an inappropriate 'friendship' with the boy before then further grooming him and sexually exploiting him.

Det Ch Insp Jill Duffie spoke outside court following the sentencing

"The messages exchanged between her and her underage pupil were highly sexual and nothing short of sickening.

"As a result of the abuse he was subjected to, the victim has suffered greatly with mental health struggles and has shown immense bravery to bring her to justice today."

The senior officer said there was "still a societal stigma surrounding male victims of abuse" and she encouraged anyone who had been abused in a similar way to contact police.

Judith Evans standing in front of a glass door. She is wearing a blue coat, a flowery top and carrying a handbag.

Judith Evans: Teacher who abused pupil jailed for two years

The woman admitted grooming and having sexual intercourse with a teenage schoolboy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjd9vv2nylo

OP posts:
whippy1981 · 16/03/2025 09:17

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:15

It isn't to catch you out. It is for you to explain the transition process from woman to trans woman.

Oh please. Don’t pretend you are the least bit interested in what the response is.

Your question makes little sense.
Being trans isn’t about what someone wants to be it’s what they are.

A trans woman is a person who was registered/ observed to be male at birth but who has a female gender.

If you are a woman who was registered/ observed female at birth (ans the majority of women are) then you are not trans.

It’s really not very hard to understand if you aren’t so resistant to the idea that some people are trans and that’s ok.

So you are against trans women transitioning from women to trans woman then?

That is ok that you are transphobic and against some people who are trans.

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:18

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 09:13

Do you think sexual attraction is a orientation or a preference?

And what purpose do you think the prison system serves?

Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

could you explain what you mean by this?

And what purpose do you think the prison system serves?

For me it would be the protection of society, deterrence , accountability and ideally rehabilitation of the offender.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 16/03/2025 09:20

Since forever, its never been banned

you aren't allowed to call me or anyone else a cis woman but you are absolutely allowed to use the phrase in a general ‘cis women are….’ way

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:24

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 16/03/2025 09:20

Since forever, its never been banned

you aren't allowed to call me or anyone else a cis woman but you are absolutely allowed to use the phrase in a general ‘cis women are….’ way

you aren't allowed to call me or anyone else a cis woman but you are absolutely allowed to use the phrase in a general ‘cis women are….’

This is interesting to know - I had not understood this distinction. I imagine there would be some blurred lines sometimes depending on the context and people could get themselves in hot water. If you are not gender critical on this site you have to be very careful or it’s easy to get banned.

In any case I avoid using the word “cis” on here as I know people find it very offensive and I don’t think it contributes towards bridging understanding to use language that people have such a strong reaction to.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 16/03/2025 09:28

I agree in the main with your post tandora

but the whole ‘if you arent gc on here its easy to get banned if you are not careful’ is a load of rubbish as well

gc people have been banned left right and bloody centre for not being ‘careful’, subjected to targeted reporting etc

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 16/03/2025 09:29

And for the hard of thinking i am not saying that other posters arent banned

but its not just non gc posters

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 09:30

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:18

Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

could you explain what you mean by this?

And what purpose do you think the prison system serves?

For me it would be the protection of society, deterrence , accountability and ideally rehabilitation of the offender.

orientation = fixed (ie 1of3 hetero/bi/homo)
preference = choice can change (ie F/F SSA to F/M hetero)

Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

Do you think 2 year 1 locked up will act as a deterrance for other child sex offenders?

Do you think its long enough when along with the sex offending she tried to send the child to prison for rape to cover up her sex abuse?

Do you think her sexual attraction to a child can be rehabilitated

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:30

whippy1981 · 16/03/2025 09:17

So you are against trans women transitioning from women to trans woman then?

That is ok that you are transphobic and against some people who are trans.

A woman who is not trans cannot “transition” to being a trans woman. This isn’t because I am “against” this, it’s just not what being trans is.
A trans woman is not anything you say it is- a trans woman is a person who is registered male at birth but who has a female gender.
If you are registered female at birth you cannot “transition” to being a “trans woman”.

whippy1981 · 16/03/2025 09:31

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:30

A woman who is not trans cannot “transition” to being a trans woman. This isn’t because I am “against” this, it’s just not what being trans is.
A trans woman is not anything you say it is- a trans woman is a person who is registered male at birth but who has a female gender.
If you are registered female at birth you cannot “transition” to being a “trans woman”.

So people cannot be who they are in your eyes?

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:33

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 09:30

orientation = fixed (ie 1of3 hetero/bi/homo)
preference = choice can change (ie F/F SSA to F/M hetero)

Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

Do you think 2 year 1 locked up will act as a deterrance for other child sex offenders?

Do you think its long enough when along with the sex offending she tried to send the child to prison for rape to cover up her sex abuse?

Do you think her sexual attraction to a child can be rehabilitated

orientation = fixed (ie 1of3 hetero/bi/homo)
preference = choice can change (ie F/F SSA to F/M hetero)
Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

Gosh I think there’s endless literature written on this/ scientific debate, and I think the answer is it depends.

Do you think 2 year 1 locked up will act as a deterrance for other child sex offenders?

wasn’t it 4 years, 2 locked up?

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:35

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 16/03/2025 09:28

I agree in the main with your post tandora

but the whole ‘if you arent gc on here its easy to get banned if you are not careful’ is a load of rubbish as well

gc people have been banned left right and bloody centre for not being ‘careful’, subjected to targeted reporting etc

gc people have been banned left right and bloody centre for not being ‘careful’, subjected to targeted reporting etc

that’s interesting to know as well. I have only experienced this from the other side but willing to accept it may work both ways.

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 09:37

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:33

orientation = fixed (ie 1of3 hetero/bi/homo)
preference = choice can change (ie F/F SSA to F/M hetero)
Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

Gosh I think there’s endless literature written on this/ scientific debate, and I think the answer is it depends.

Do you think 2 year 1 locked up will act as a deterrance for other child sex offenders?

wasn’t it 4 years, 2 locked up?

I asked you your opinion
I am assuming that you have an opinion as you say it depends

So

Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

She got a 2 year lock up and if you read back through the thread will see that she will be most likely will be allowed serve less that that as in 1/2 the term.

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:45

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 09:37

I asked you your opinion
I am assuming that you have an opinion as you say it depends

So

Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

She got a 2 year lock up and if you read back through the thread will see that she will be most likely will be allowed serve less that that as in 1/2 the term.

Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

Like I said , I think it depends (on the individual, circumstances, context). I don’t think there is a one size fits all answer to that question.
Do I think that this particular woman will inevitably go on to sexually assault other children? No, I don’t think that’s inevitable. Do I think this sentence is likely appropriate/ sufficient to ensure she doesn’t? I believe it is.

She got a 2 year lock up and if you read back through the thread will see that she will be most likely will be allowed serve less that that as in 1/2 the term.

Ahh right I see what you mean. I think the sentence (in its entirety) is appropriate , yes. Her career is over, she will be on the sex offender register for life. Her identity is known. She will serve time in jail. Etc. like I said, I’m not in favour of lengthy prison time in general.

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 09:58

Tandora · 16/03/2025 09:45

Do you think sexual attraction is an orientation or a preference?

Like I said , I think it depends (on the individual, circumstances, context). I don’t think there is a one size fits all answer to that question.
Do I think that this particular woman will inevitably go on to sexually assault other children? No, I don’t think that’s inevitable. Do I think this sentence is likely appropriate/ sufficient to ensure she doesn’t? I believe it is.

She got a 2 year lock up and if you read back through the thread will see that she will be most likely will be allowed serve less that that as in 1/2 the term.

Ahh right I see what you mean. I think the sentence (in its entirety) is appropriate , yes. Her career is over, she will be on the sex offender register for life. Her identity is known. She will serve time in jail. Etc. like I said, I’m not in favour of lengthy prison time in general.

Why do you think she is at low/medium risk of offending?

Sexual reproduction is an instinct and needed to ensure humans as any animal continues to exist as a species.

She broke multiple social taboo and professional standards and the law (which she was trained to understand) to have sex with the child . So what basis are you going on that she is not a high risk offender?

Abhannmor · 16/03/2025 10:03

Yes the sentence seems too short - possibly because she has young children?

No I don't think drag Queens or trans are a danger to kids. And no I don't think drag is a form of entertainment suitable for children. Nice try though OP.

Tandora · 16/03/2025 10:03

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 09:58

Why do you think she is at low/medium risk of offending?

Sexual reproduction is an instinct and needed to ensure humans as any animal continues to exist as a species.

She broke multiple social taboo and professional standards and the law (which she was trained to understand) to have sex with the child . So what basis are you going on that she is not a high risk offender?

Obviously I am not a professional in this area! But those professionals involved judged this to be an appropriate sentence and my lay opinion is I agree with them. I’m not sure what else you want from me? I thibk what this woman has done is abhorrent and I agree she broke professional standards and the law. I believe she has been appropriately punished. Do I think she’ll do it again? No.

I don’t think reproduction or instinct has much to do with it.

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 10:17

Tandora · 16/03/2025 10:03

Obviously I am not a professional in this area! But those professionals involved judged this to be an appropriate sentence and my lay opinion is I agree with them. I’m not sure what else you want from me? I thibk what this woman has done is abhorrent and I agree she broke professional standards and the law. I believe she has been appropriately punished. Do I think she’ll do it again? No.

I don’t think reproduction or instinct has much to do with it.

Do you think that a sexually mature adult who has a sex drive will stop seeking sex?

Why did she choose a child for sex?

If she want a "shag" she had multiple ways of finding an adult partner yet she picked and groomed a child who had problems at home. The family problems gave her an extra wedge to undermine the school safeguarding.
The choice to pick that child was calculated to obtain the sex and reduce risk of discovery and if discovered the family may not have been in a position to fully support the child.

So I am curious as to why you think that she would not repeat the same pattern of behaviour to obtain sex?

SerafinasGoose · 16/03/2025 10:17

Yes, she's committed a hideous crime and the sentence to most of our inexpert legal eyes appears too light. The variables on which the tariff has been decided are individually tallied from a starting minimum for her offence. Her sex will not be amongst these variables. Men also receive too-light sentences for similar offences.

Look at the statistics. Over 98% of sexual offenders are male. Trans women and drag queens are male, and offend in accordance with male pattern offending. Female offenders are exceptionally rare.

Your misogynistic screed is not the 'gotchya' you claim it is. In fact, it highlights one of the rare exceptions that proves the rule. That you've decided to use a particularly disgusting case of child abuse to advance the usual, feeble argument of 'women do it too' (we already know they do, but in exceptionally rare numbers) as some kind of defence against an aggressive brand of activism that has long targeted women and children, says a great deal about you.

None of it is good.

Panterusblackish · 16/03/2025 10:27

wretchedmood · 15/03/2025 14:40

Certain demographics think drag queens & trans people are dangerous around children.

Some of them are.

The old 'oh look a tiny tiny number of women commit criminal and sexual offences, so the men who do it (including those appropriating womanhood) aren't that bad' is boring and has been repeated on here by transactivists time and again.

OP let me make this clear and simple for you. Men are more dangerous than women, even the ones wearing frilly knickers.

Tandora · 16/03/2025 10:43

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 10:17

Do you think that a sexually mature adult who has a sex drive will stop seeking sex?

Why did she choose a child for sex?

If she want a "shag" she had multiple ways of finding an adult partner yet she picked and groomed a child who had problems at home. The family problems gave her an extra wedge to undermine the school safeguarding.
The choice to pick that child was calculated to obtain the sex and reduce risk of discovery and if discovered the family may not have been in a position to fully support the child.

So I am curious as to why you think that she would not repeat the same pattern of behaviour to obtain sex?

I think where you and I disagree as you seem to think it’s biology or instinct that drove this woman to commit this offence? I disagree with that- I think it was about power and opportunity. I think it was a choice that she made.

Tandora · 16/03/2025 10:45

SerafinasGoose · 16/03/2025 10:17

Yes, she's committed a hideous crime and the sentence to most of our inexpert legal eyes appears too light. The variables on which the tariff has been decided are individually tallied from a starting minimum for her offence. Her sex will not be amongst these variables. Men also receive too-light sentences for similar offences.

Look at the statistics. Over 98% of sexual offenders are male. Trans women and drag queens are male, and offend in accordance with male pattern offending. Female offenders are exceptionally rare.

Your misogynistic screed is not the 'gotchya' you claim it is. In fact, it highlights one of the rare exceptions that proves the rule. That you've decided to use a particularly disgusting case of child abuse to advance the usual, feeble argument of 'women do it too' (we already know they do, but in exceptionally rare numbers) as some kind of defence against an aggressive brand of activism that has long targeted women and children, says a great deal about you.

None of it is good.

In fact, it highlights one of the rare exceptions that proves the rule

such a classic statement. What do you mean by this?

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 11:13

Tandora · 16/03/2025 10:43

I think where you and I disagree as you seem to think it’s biology or instinct that drove this woman to commit this offence? I disagree with that- I think it was about power and opportunity. I think it was a choice that she made.

I think where you and I disagree as you seem to think it’s biology or instinct that drove this woman to commit this offence?

No just point out she had a drive which is not going away once she gets out of prison.

she wanted sex.

She will continue to want sex.

She also used her position to groom a child for the sex.

which why I asked :

Why did she choose a child for sex?

If you think this:

I think it was about power and opportunity

I was curious why you believe that she would stop targeting children.

Which is my question :

So I am curious as to why you think that she would not repeat the same pattern of behaviour to obtain sex?

Abhannmor · 16/03/2025 11:57

Tandora · 16/03/2025 10:43

I think where you and I disagree as you seem to think it’s biology or instinct that drove this woman to commit this offence? I disagree with that- I think it was about power and opportunity. I think it was a choice that she made.

Yes this. All crimes involve means , motive and opportunity. She won't have two of these in future. I doubt she is a high risk for re-offending.

AtrociousCircumstance · 16/03/2025 12:01

It’s bizarre that you’re using this awful case to make some sort of trans activist point. And a bit sickening to utilise it in this way.

Yes, this case is awful. No, it wasn’t a trans-identified male who was the perpetrator. And yes, women-only spaces and women’s rights still matter regardless.

Tandora · 16/03/2025 12:25

AnSolas · 16/03/2025 11:13

I think where you and I disagree as you seem to think it’s biology or instinct that drove this woman to commit this offence?

No just point out she had a drive which is not going away once she gets out of prison.

she wanted sex.

She will continue to want sex.

She also used her position to groom a child for the sex.

which why I asked :

Why did she choose a child for sex?

If you think this:

I think it was about power and opportunity

I was curious why you believe that she would stop targeting children.

Which is my question :

So I am curious as to why you think that she would not repeat the same pattern of behaviour to obtain sex?

I was curious why you believe that she would stop targeting children

because she won’t have the same access to children - sex offender register for life/ she won’t be able to get another job working with children and because of the consequences she faced the last time she made the choice to abuse a child. I don’t think she is high risk for reoffending.