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To ask what is wrong with men?

121 replies

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 09:23

I just despair, I really do.

I was walking from the train station to my office this morning. I’m overweight, but I’ve lost a lot of weight and I’m not as massive as I was.

But as I’m walking I hear a man yelling at me, and I took my AirPods out. He’s hanging out of a taxi window yelling “look at the state of you!! Walking around like a fucking whale!!!” and making rude gestures at me, his mates are in the taxi laughing as well.

Im sure he was just drunk, but really? I’m 25 and he looked to be at least 40, what’s the need for it?!

OP posts:
Shodan · 14/03/2025 11:26

There are some Instagram/Facebook reels that show pictures of the men that post negatively on women's appearances.

All without exception are the lowest selection of their sex- overweight, old, bald etc. All definitely lacking even a pair of brain cells. And all passing judgment on the attractiveness of women.

Where these pathetic little turds get their inflamed ego from I don't know, but they're very, very angry that women have said Fuck Off.

'All the women of the world had a meeting and we all agree- you're a slug. Now kindly fuck off.'

I'm sorry you had that experience OP. But tbh it doesn't matter what size you are- slugs will insult any woman, because that's the only way their pathetic little egos get soothed.

Lavender14 · 14/03/2025 11:32

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 09:48

Thanks everyone. I know it shouldn’t upset me, but it did. I don’t know why

Someone treated you awfully and unfairly and you're not a robot. Of course it was upsetting, I think most people would have been upset by that even if you're getting advised to ignore them and move on - that's really just people wanting to 'fix' it for you because they know its a horrible feeling to have.

It's horrible to think those men think that's an acceptable way to behave and it really does reflect more on them than you but your feelings are valid. Good self care for the next while to rebuild your resilience op. You did not deserve that and they were in the wrong.

CreationNat1on · 14/03/2025 11:38

They were trying to identify a target, and you happened to walk by. They were putting on a show of bravado in front of each other. Who can be the most obnoxious abuser, who has the audacity to say the most repellant thing?

mudandgrass · 14/03/2025 11:44

The arrogance of these men assuming that all our self worth is tied up in whether they want to shag us.

Well, I don't want to shag you, boyo, so fuck off!

Jollyjoy · 14/03/2025 11:50

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 10:49

I’m torn between anger at their audacity and just a genuine sadness that I still stick out as being so fat. I thought I’d lost enough that I look different. It’s just awful

As others have said - this is NOT about you being fat and all about them being angry at women and using what they know will hurt. They would have said this regardless of your size. I don’t understand what’s wrong with them and no wonder you are upset but this is a them problem.

tootiredtobeinspired · 14/03/2025 11:52

Try not to let it upset you OP, its really no reflection on you at all. I run regularly and have had many things shouted at me from horrible men in cars (never women funnily enough). I try not to let it bother me but it is upsetting at times. As PP have said though - they throw the 'fat' insult out there because they know it hurst and in their eyes its the ultimate insult because they are such women hating turds they do not see women as human, we just exist to be sex objects. They are gross, pathetic little individuals and the world would be a better place without them in it.
When I run now, I keep my headphones in and my eyes down so if they shout at me they think I dont hear, I wont give the fuckers the satisfaction of acknowledging it.😡

DaisyChain505 · 14/03/2025 11:53

I’m so sorry this happened to you.

This man does not get to define your worth or beauty, fuck him!

Dollydaydream100 · 14/03/2025 11:53

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 09:48

Thanks everyone. I know it shouldn’t upset me, but it did. I don’t know why

Of course it’s upsetting having abuse shouted at you by a carful of men.

It’s what I call “small dick syndrome”. Some men just hate women in general. They’d find something to shout at any woman, you won’t have been the only one they accosted.

Imagine how pathetic someone must be to get a thrill out of shouting insults from a moving car to a lone woman? Sad, sad, sad.

hellohellooo · 14/03/2025 12:00

They are utter losers

Sorry op

I have had this

My sister had this too

Fcking arseholesw

Lyannaa · 14/03/2025 12:03

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 09:48

Thanks everyone. I know it shouldn’t upset me, but it did. I don’t know why

I’m so sorry this happened to you. I’d be very upset as well, I think anyone would be. What an absolute pig.

NewMarmiteJar · 14/03/2025 12:04

Let’s hope he sticks his stupid head out of the window next time a close range lorry passes by.

Mydadsbirthday · 14/03/2025 12:25

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 14/03/2025 10:08

I can remember coming out of a nightclub once about 1 am. I was mid 20s. I always dressed smartly, I was driving so completely sober and walking to my car.
Then a taxi pulled up next to me and stopped. Gang of lads in it.
One of them had spotted me in the club.
He was shouting at me telling me no wonder I was going home on my own, I was boring, I was a F-ing skank, ugly, even he wouldn’t shag me and he’d shag anything. Even as the cab was driving off he was shouting.
The irony was he was very, very famous footballer at the time. Very much sold as the ‘boy next door’ type your mum would love.
I felt sick and was shaking it was horrible.
I still see him in the TV here and then he’s made a career out of his doting husband persona now as well.
Now I realise he was coked out of his mind.

Please name and shame, why protect this arsehole?

Mydadsbirthday · 14/03/2025 12:27

It's so depressing how much hate men have for women.

It makes me feel so vulnerable as a senior women at work. I look around my all-male team and think - are you secretly hating me and thinking awful thoughts about me?

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 12:27

Thank you everyone 🤍 I’m quite looking forward to getting home and having a bath and probably a cry. It’s just so shit.

OP posts:
PeggyMitchellsCameo · 14/03/2025 12:30

Mydadsbirthday · 14/03/2025 12:25

Please name and shame, why protect this arsehole?

Well I wouldn’t want to do that now as it’s 30 years ago and he was very young and clearly absolutely out of his nut. Footballers in general were badly behaved then.
Before camera phones, some of them were atrocious although the odd girl who sting them with a kiss and tell story here and there.
There was far less in terms of being managed and drugs tests as well so they were quite frequently out in the town, high as kites.
I just get a little bit of joy from seeing his hair receding, and throwing the odd insult at the telly.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 14/03/2025 12:38

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 12:27

Thank you everyone 🤍 I’m quite looking forward to getting home and having a bath and probably a cry. It’s just so shit.

This might sound a bit odd, but they wouldn’t have even picked you out personally. You were a passing victim, and to entertain themselves, you’ve got a torrent of abuse so they can all say, wow, isn’t Craig the big man? He’s hilarious!
If you met Craig on his own, he will be a man short on intellect and self esteem. He will be riddled with insecurities.
No decent man who respects himself (never mind women!) would behave like that.
They have absolutely no thought for the person they abuse. They were probably bullies at school as well.
I got some verbal abuse recently online, and it involved my appearance and I replied…
I am sorry you feel it’s ok to speak to a stranger like that. I am actually fine with myself. I know I’m getting older and prefer that to the alternative. However, you seem very, very angry at the world and you don’t seem ok at all. You must have a lot of worries and anxieties but please know I wish well and have a better day ahead.
(I had therapy to help with this stuff!)
I got a DM with an apology and the person told me all about their troubles.
Hold your beautiful head up. You are fabulous just as you are.
Oh and Craig probably has a very small penis.

SerafinasGoose · 14/03/2025 13:05

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 14/03/2025 12:30

Well I wouldn’t want to do that now as it’s 30 years ago and he was very young and clearly absolutely out of his nut. Footballers in general were badly behaved then.
Before camera phones, some of them were atrocious although the odd girl who sting them with a kiss and tell story here and there.
There was far less in terms of being managed and drugs tests as well so they were quite frequently out in the town, high as kites.
I just get a little bit of joy from seeing his hair receding, and throwing the odd insult at the telly.

Edited

I think that's a healthy attitude. Also, there's a key word here: litigation.

The whole culture of football is soaked in misogyny - that's one aspect of the 'beautiful game' (huge misnomer) that doesn't seem to be one bit better today than it did back then. Attitudes to women within that culture are disgusting. Strangely, though, whilst these are on loud, clear display for all to see, they really do not like having public attention drawn to this.

Most of them are as thick as mince, anyway, and however physically attractive someone is for me there is no faster turn-off than this. The instant men like this open their mouths they give me the ick.

Keepingongoing · 14/03/2025 13:05

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 14/03/2025 12:38

This might sound a bit odd, but they wouldn’t have even picked you out personally. You were a passing victim, and to entertain themselves, you’ve got a torrent of abuse so they can all say, wow, isn’t Craig the big man? He’s hilarious!
If you met Craig on his own, he will be a man short on intellect and self esteem. He will be riddled with insecurities.
No decent man who respects himself (never mind women!) would behave like that.
They have absolutely no thought for the person they abuse. They were probably bullies at school as well.
I got some verbal abuse recently online, and it involved my appearance and I replied…
I am sorry you feel it’s ok to speak to a stranger like that. I am actually fine with myself. I know I’m getting older and prefer that to the alternative. However, you seem very, very angry at the world and you don’t seem ok at all. You must have a lot of worries and anxieties but please know I wish well and have a better day ahead.
(I had therapy to help with this stuff!)
I got a DM with an apology and the person told me all about their troubles.
Hold your beautiful head up. You are fabulous just as you are.
Oh and Craig probably has a very small penis.

Edited

Love your response to the online abuse @PeggyMitchellsCameo . Years ago, I got an abusive phone call, picked up the phone and a creepy male voice said ‘hello. I wonder if you’d like some sex?’. I was very upset ( only early 20s at the time), told him to F off and hung up. Told my flat mates about it.

He rang again and my flat mate answered. The caller repeated his question but this time my flatmate was prepared and said something like ‘ you really must need help, what’s the matter with you?’ Apparently the caller just crumbled and never bothered us again.

@ForTealBee honestly you have every right to be upset, it’s completely unexpected and very personalised aggression. I’m sure you look lovely btw 💐

Suusue · 14/03/2025 13:12

Disgusting creep. Not all men are like that but more than enough are. They are pathetic and don't give him another thought.

5128gap · 14/03/2025 13:16

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 09:28

Not near Cheltenham but I think it must be racing, there were loads of drunk men about this morning. I don’t want to let it upset me but it has shaken me a bit

Yup. Its been like Lord of the flies in cheap suits the last few days. I'm sorry this has happened to you. When they get let loose like this women are always targeted.

GiddyRobin · 14/03/2025 13:17

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 14/03/2025 10:54

As I said in my post above, my colleague was called 'fat' by the kerb crawling louse who pulled up beside her. She's eight stone wringing wet. They use 'fat' as an insult because they KNOW it will hurt. They know women are almost all insecure about their weight, so they call them 'fat' because even the slenderest sylph will start to think 'maybe I DO have a touch of cellulite and perhaps I am getting a bit wobbly in the bum...'

They call women fat because they know it hurts, and that's what they want to do. They want you to THINK you are fat, because that way they can know that they've got into your psyche. A brain dead tosser throwing out the world's most obvious insult does not mean that you are fat. It means that they can't even come up with an original line.

If it's any consolation, men like that are still calling one another 'gay' as an insult.

Absolutely this.

OP, I'm a size 6 and I've always been on the skinny side of slender. The first thing these absolutely rancid specimens ever shout and jeer at me is that I'm fat. It's so blatantly untrue, but like Vroom says - it's designed to get inside your head. They know lots of women are insecure about their weight, and they're so fucking unimaginative that it's the only thing they can think to say.

Don't let them nest in your brain. Instead, think about just how small their pathetic little worlds must be and how much they're missing out on by living as such imbecilic cretins.

FrozenFeathers · 14/03/2025 13:17

This nonsense is why I starting wearing headphones in the first place. I never take them off, so I don't have to listen to the abuse.

I hope you gave them the finger, OP. But I can understand if you didn't.

coxesorangepippin · 14/03/2025 13:18

Are you anywhere near the races. It's Gold Cup here and the number of drunk men out having breakfast is staggering.

^

It's a sad state of affairs for men when this is the first post

But unfortunately it's true

LauderSyme · 14/03/2025 13:24

I am so sorry that happened to you, what an arsehole.

Of course you're upset, why wouldn't you be upset by vicious verbal abuse? 30 years ago someone crossed the road purely to tell me how ugly I was. I'm still upset! 15 years ago two lads followed me home making barking noises, calling me a dog and telling me to kill myself because it would be easier. Still upset!

And yet, other passing men have viewed me in a different light and taken great pleasure in detailing the sexual acts they'd like to perform on me. It is not the compliment they think it is.

The short answer to your thread title question is the patriarchy and all the many layers of hideous male entitlement it entails.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/03/2025 13:25

Fuck him.

I don't understand the mentality of these God's gift creatures walking around, full of testosterone, they must have a magic mirror.

The mouth pieces men are vile, so are the violent, murderous, racist, rapist men.

I can't read the newspaper anymore. I'm giving up on mankind.

I know, NAMALT.

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