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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
napody · 13/03/2025 19:13

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/03/2025 18:56

If dh came home and said if I travel to America for one week a year and I’ll end up earning 150k a year here’s the written policy with the pay and rising scale.

Then logically I’d suck it up providing we then did the whole cleaner and such and I get a week childfree too. Also it could happen and I decide actually I still didn’t like it and so nope it’s not for me.

But ops only getting 40k expecting a whole week away plus various other overnights and for that I’d say no not even worth the effort and you could find another 40k job without the travel.

It's worth it for her. That's what matters here.

loveawineloveacrisp · 13/03/2025 19:15

Sorry but to those saying just get another job which requires less travel, have any of you tried recently? It's fucking brutal out there.

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 13/03/2025 19:19

He was annoyed because you weren’t free to do some jobs in the house, because you had to work, during what I presume were your working hours?!?

Your travel doesn’t sound too bad, and you wfh part of the week. DH has much more travel and out of hours work than I do, but I earn double what he does. Is it annoying? Yes, but it’s just part of his job. These years of childcare and juggling are pretty short in the grand scheme of things.

HeyDoodie · 13/03/2025 19:27

I think you should do your new job and enjoy the week away abroad. He should be supporting you in this as everyone has to start somewhere. I think you should both put some childcare in place to take the weight off his shoulders a little however. A child minder who is happy to pick both children up a couple of days each week and do extra when you’re abroad. Possibly a weekly cleaner also. Online food shop. Someone to mow the lawn.

HeyDoodie · 13/03/2025 19:31

It’s so important that your confidence is growing in your job, you’re successful and enjoy your role. It may take a while to earn more but you’re on course to succeed.

Mandylovescandy · 13/03/2025 19:34

I am advertising a role just now for £40k (fairly rigid pay structure in my organisation means the experience and skill level of the role is capped at that) and I expect some travel as the job can't be done without it. I don't think that the amount of travel is excessive for the money (in the role and got the OP) and I don't know what is so hard about looking your kids for a week especially when you can afford to buy in help and have family close by

ChateauMargaux · 13/03/2025 19:34

Your family income is 160k... it would be tax efficient for you to earn more and for him to cut back. He could possibly talk to his accountant about paying an assistant role out of his business expenses.. but his salary can easily bear childcare costs... neither of you should be attempting to work while looking after your children.

If you were both on £40k... you would both be working as hard as you could to support each other to advance in your careers.

He is lucky he can run his business with so much flexibility and that you can share the load on some days..

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 19:43

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 18:40

@SouthLondonMum22
So if you were my husband you'd have either told me to turn down a once in a lifetime career opportunity which had resulted in me doubling my salary, getting a PhD funded and an opportunity to visit countries I'd never been to before....which in turn has meant my DH and DS have visited these countries as they sometimes travel with me.
Or you'd have divorced me?
All for the sake of a week of solo childcare once or twice a year?

Let's hope you never need your partner to compromise for you!

I would've said that I made it very clear how I felt about that before marriage and children and my stance hasn't changed.

It also wouldn't be a compromise, it would just be my partner doing what he wants anyway.

TunnocksOrDeath · 13/03/2025 19:44

40k is well below median average salary for London, but significantly higher than average for Wales, Northern Ireland and North East England. I think if DH is having to arrange his own 'more flexible' working hours around OP's more rigid needs as an employee, it's not unreasonable for him to question if it's worth it for that salary, depending on where they are. However I think it is very unreasonable of him to just moan, rather than come up with a practical suggestion to improve matters for everyone.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 19:49

I would've said that I made it very clear how I felt about that before marriage and children and my stance hasn't changed.

It also wouldn't be a compromise, it would just be my partner doing what he wants anyway.

Does your ban on travel extend to trips with friends? Or to visit family?

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 20:01

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 19:49

I would've said that I made it very clear how I felt about that before marriage and children and my stance hasn't changed.

It also wouldn't be a compromise, it would just be my partner doing what he wants anyway.

Does your ban on travel extend to trips with friends? Or to visit family?

We don't have any family abroad. Weekends/long weekends with friends? Absolutely fine. Just as I'd be fine with an overnight/the odd few nights of occasional work travel.

Longer holidays are family holidays.

Summerhillsquare · 13/03/2025 20:02

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:58

I've asked him what his ideal solution would be and he's never been able to provide me with an answer.

He just wants me to either make more money, push back on crucial elements of my current job, or get a new job paying more and that is more convenient for him and our family.

It's not possible to only perform half my role and do the bits that suit my home life the best. Thats just an unrealistic option. So the only option would then be to quit my job and look for another.

But it's not a reasonable expectation from him that I would be able to go out and get another job with a significant salary increase that enables me to WFH every day, collect the children and be with them during my working hours.

Someone who repeatedly complains of the same thing without either taking action themselves or proposing a solution, is either mad or a bully.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 20:13

We don't have any family abroad

Let's hope that doesn't change!! My SIL unexpectedly moved abroad a few years ago. It's not a move we could have predicted.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that life is unpredictable. I would never have imagined that I'd be doing the job I am if you'd asked me when I got married.

Saying you'd divorce someone because they went on a one week works trip seems very inflexible and a tad harsh! But each to their own I guess 🤷🏼‍♀️

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 20:23

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 20:13

We don't have any family abroad

Let's hope that doesn't change!! My SIL unexpectedly moved abroad a few years ago. It's not a move we could have predicted.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that life is unpredictable. I would never have imagined that I'd be doing the job I am if you'd asked me when I got married.

Saying you'd divorce someone because they went on a one week works trip seems very inflexible and a tad harsh! But each to their own I guess 🤷🏼‍♀️

I imagine if we had family abroad, we'd all go and make a family holiday out of it because we'd have to consider annual leave.

It wouldn't just be a one week works trip though, would it? With more progress would likely come more work trips, possibly even more frequently and that isn't what I would ever want.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 20:38

I imagine if we had family abroad, we'd all go and make a family holiday out of it because we'd have to consider annual leave.

We've done that, DH has taken DS without me and he's gone on his own.

I even managed to tie in one of my work trips with a visit which made it more affordable!

It wouldn't just be a one week works trip though, would it? With more progress would likely come more work trips, possibly even more frequently and that isn't what I would ever want.

Depends on the job I guess. I specifically have an international job but only need to travel 2/3 times a year at most.
Members of my team might do one trip a year or even every two years.

It's not always excessive.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 21:23

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 20:38

I imagine if we had family abroad, we'd all go and make a family holiday out of it because we'd have to consider annual leave.

We've done that, DH has taken DS without me and he's gone on his own.

I even managed to tie in one of my work trips with a visit which made it more affordable!

It wouldn't just be a one week works trip though, would it? With more progress would likely come more work trips, possibly even more frequently and that isn't what I would ever want.

Depends on the job I guess. I specifically have an international job but only need to travel 2/3 times a year at most.
Members of my team might do one trip a year or even every two years.

It's not always excessive.

It can very quickly become more exessive or once a year which would probably be my absolute limit if I could be pursuaded by an outstanding pay rise could suddenly become 2-3 times a year.

and then I'd feel like I'd just have to get on with it and it would feel unfair to me so that is a reason why I've always made it clear that it's a dealbreaker for me.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 21:45

..It can very quickly become more exessive or once a year which would probably be my absolute limit if I could be pursuaded by an outstanding pay rise could suddenly become 2-3 times a year.

Like I say, it's very job specific. You can't make sweeping generalisations.
My team know that international travel will be beneficial in their future career development and its a organisational KPI to increase the number of staff with international experience.
But I have staff who have never travelled.

I've done my specific job for 4 years and the amount of travel has remained static.

and then I'd feel like I'd just have to get on with it and it would feel unfair to me so that is a reason why I've always made it clear that it's a dealbreaker for me.

That's why I mentioned compromise earlier.
Both me and DH are supportive of each other's careers so we're willing to put up with the occasional inconvenience of a work trips.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 21:49

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 21:45

..It can very quickly become more exessive or once a year which would probably be my absolute limit if I could be pursuaded by an outstanding pay rise could suddenly become 2-3 times a year.

Like I say, it's very job specific. You can't make sweeping generalisations.
My team know that international travel will be beneficial in their future career development and its a organisational KPI to increase the number of staff with international experience.
But I have staff who have never travelled.

I've done my specific job for 4 years and the amount of travel has remained static.

and then I'd feel like I'd just have to get on with it and it would feel unfair to me so that is a reason why I've always made it clear that it's a dealbreaker for me.

That's why I mentioned compromise earlier.
Both me and DH are supportive of each other's careers so we're willing to put up with the occasional inconvenience of a work trips.

It wouldn't feel like a compromise to me. Though I suppose, like you said, it would depend on if it really would remain static.

Agreeing to overnights/a few nights away feels like the compromise to me.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 21:59

Agreeing to overnights/a few nights away feels like the compromise to me..

It depends where you're being asked to travel! I try to limit my trips to a week but I tend to travel to Asia so less than a week is difficult. I once did 4 nights in Hong Kong but the travel time meant I was away 6 nights - it was a killer!

My DH is currently in Australia and will be away for 13 nights. A week would be impossible.

SouthLondonMum22 · 14/03/2025 00:07

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 21:59

Agreeing to overnights/a few nights away feels like the compromise to me..

It depends where you're being asked to travel! I try to limit my trips to a week but I tend to travel to Asia so less than a week is difficult. I once did 4 nights in Hong Kong but the travel time meant I was away 6 nights - it was a killer!

My DH is currently in Australia and will be away for 13 nights. A week would be impossible.

To be fair, I think I would feel differently if both of us would be travelling internationally for work for a week+ at a time. It would feel more equal to me.

I think it can become an issue when it is only one person who ends up going solo with the kids for a week at a time that it can become an issue. Especially if going into it, the one with the kids was already not keen on the idea.

DBD1975 · 14/03/2025 00:55

Get an au pair to look after the children. It is easily affordable given your joint income. I can see why there are stresses on both sides. Did you talk to your husband before you took the promotion to discuss what it would mean in terms of you being away?
I can see why your DH feels put upon.
Only you can decide if it is worth all of the stress. I would hate to have a job which meant staying away from home, my DP and my kids, I can imagine nothing worse as they are my priority.

MakeOrBake · 14/03/2025 01:00

I think he's being completely unreasonable. You clearly contribute massively to home life and childcare, even blocking time in your calendar to facilitate child-related stuff. And your salary contribution is decent. He is not left to do everything by any stretch of the imagination.

In our household, I have the more flexible employer in general. (I also have way more stress and way more responsibility.) I can start late to facilitate school drop off, wfh 2-3 days per week to facilitate pick ups, make time for doctor /dentist/ orthodontist in the middle of the day as long as I have notice to block time. I earned less for about 15 years and now that my salary has caught up (now slightly more than his), I realise how much I was influenced by my perception of 'importance' to take on extra household and child care responsibility. That was wrong because it meant DH had no clue how much invisible work I do.

DH gets away with swanning off to work at 8 and getting back at 5.45. He rarely thinks about who's where, or what the dinner plans are. He is often oblivious to the long, long list of responsibilities I have on top of my job. I often think it would be better if we both had inflexible jobs. But it does help with balance that I'm sometimes too busy to be flexible because he has to step up to the plate and figure shit out.

Personally, I think travel is a great way to highlight the inequality women live with. I travel for a week about twice/thrice a year (usually leaving Sunday morning) and it's just the wake up call he needs to be aware of how much I facilitate his life.

The question is, if he travelled for a week would it highlight inequalities in the other direction? Or would it reinforce the amount you contribute to the running of the household?

When my DH travels for work, I just get on with it. When I travel, I end up organising shit for him. I need to stop doing that.

DBD1975 · 14/03/2025 01:03

What do you and your DH do with all this money? You are both sacrificing your health, well being, peace of mind and happiness for what? Your poor kids living in a house with all that tension. What are you doing it all for and that question is for both of you
Why don't you quit your Job and work in your husband's business for now. Once the kids are older you can go back to pursuing your dream job but for now it just isn't worth the stress. Working full time with children is very difficult and having a job with the demands of travelling away is crazy on the salary you are earning.

DBD1975 · 14/03/2025 01:24

arethereanyleftatall · 13/03/2025 12:35

It is imperative that you keep your job op.

You will need it. I'm a bit older than you are I'm sure, and I can say with near 💯 certainty that one day for you the rose tints will fall from your face and you will see him for who he is. When that happens, you will need this job.

Which is a successful business man, earning a very high income who is heavily invested in home life, domestic duties and child care. The stress of running your own business would far out way the stresses of any 40K a year job in the corporate world.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 14/03/2025 07:39

To be fair, I think I would feel differently if both of us would be travelling internationally for work for a week+ at a time. It would feel more equal to me.

I think it can become an issue when it is only one person who ends up going solo with the kids for a week at a time that it can become an issue. Especially if going into it, the one with the kids was already not keen on the idea.

I can see why people would become resentful if their partner just swans off on a trip with no thought of the impact it will have on the person at home.

We've always been quite mindful of doing what we can to make it easier for the parent at home. For example, DH has arranged for his parents to have DS for a couple of nights while he's away and has arranged for our friends to do the school pick up on the days that he usually does it so it's not too disruptive to my working week.
I have been annoyed if he'd just gone and left all the arrangements to me!