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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
DollydaydreamTheThird · 14/03/2025 17:22

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:58

I've asked him what his ideal solution would be and he's never been able to provide me with an answer.

He just wants me to either make more money, push back on crucial elements of my current job, or get a new job paying more and that is more convenient for him and our family.

It's not possible to only perform half my role and do the bits that suit my home life the best. Thats just an unrealistic option. So the only option would then be to quit my job and look for another.

But it's not a reasonable expectation from him that I would be able to go out and get another job with a significant salary increase that enables me to WFH every day, collect the children and be with them during my working hours.

He wants the moon on a stick OP. The fact he doesn't understand how the corporate world works must be infuriating. He wants you at his beck and call rather than theirs. That's what it boils down to. You need to tell him that if he wants you to earn more money then he needs to let you get on with building your career. If he is on £120k a year and you're on £40k surely that is enough money though? Not sure where you live but those are both good salaries where I live.
Also agree with other posters about getting wraparound school care if he can't be arsed to care for his own kids when you're working. I hate how men want women to earn more money but then they want them to be a house wife at the same time. He needs to get real and you need to put your foot down with him. Protect your own interests as if things do go tits up you'll need to look after yourself.

Candledrip · 14/03/2025 17:25

40k is not a low salary

Cdu · 14/03/2025 18:01

Do not let him patronise or belittle you, your career or your contribution to the family. He doesn't want you away from home full stop.....he wants your world to be small and revolving around him and the kids.

Your post reads very eloquently and I can imagine that work appreciates you very much. Do not let you do belittle you. I fell into this trap, gave up work as we couldn't afford childcare for two and my now xh career flourished.

Please ask in work about career progression opportunities, training and development courses, do things to increase your skill set and networks. If progression is too slow there, move to another organisation.

But make it clear to your husband that you are committed to your marriage family and career and can indeed strike a balance. He needs to come to accept it for everyone's sake

BlueFlowers5 · 14/03/2025 18:05

Get a male nanny. A lot of men say these type of things. Both of my husbands did.

SwoopDog · 14/03/2025 18:34

@hesnotthewindbeneathmywings It's not that he Doesn't understand, but that he Doesn't want to understand.

My exh was like this. I gave up my career. Did something flexible around his business. The worst decision ever.

Your H wants to be in control of you. For you to be completely at his disposal and dependant on him. And when he's got you under his thumb, and you quit your job, he will accuse you of sponging off him. You benefitting from his hard work.

Yeah..so don't quit your job. Tell him to fuck off and shut his mouth.

Shotokan101 · 14/03/2025 18:53

He's being very unreasonable

Teddybear23 · 14/03/2025 19:33

I personally would not take a job that is more than 9-5 if you have children.

Risingsun93 · 14/03/2025 20:06

I’m going to go against the grain here and say I can completely understand his perspective.

It sounds like he’s not just upset about the travel itself but about the overall balance between the demands of your job and what it brings to your family. From what you’ve said, he sees both of you as a unit and believes you deserve a role that better reflects your value. both in pay and in how it fits within your family life.

I totally appreciate your drive to succeed, and I relate to that because I’m the same. But with children in the mix and a financially secure household, it’s understandable that he might feel like he’s carrying a disproportionate load of childcare so you can chase career progression. As someone with ADHD, I completely get the internal drive to achieve, excel, and be recognised. But sometimes, it’s worth stepping back and asking if the sacrifices required align with the overall good of your family.

Maybe the solution is hiring more childcare support, or perhaps it’s looking for a role that pays better for the level of effort you’re putting in. It sounds like you bring a lot to the table, so the question is whether this specific role values you enough in return.

Suzjspik · 14/03/2025 20:33

i stopped reading at salary low £40k ! seriously wtf

UndermyShoeJoe · 14/03/2025 20:35

40k with the expected travel commitments is low. 40k office 9-5 is not low.

SwoopDog · 14/03/2025 20:59

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 12:26

We have a cleaner.

He takes one of the children to an after school activity close to the school once a week. And takes our other child to an activity 30 mins away another day when I'm in the office. On that day my mil will come over to be with the child that doesn't have an activity until I get home.

I block out time in my diary late afternoon each week take one of the children to an activity. I'm offline for roughly 25 mins while I get us to the activity and then I continue to work for an hour from the activity.

If I have advanced notice of times I need to help with the children I can block out the time. But I cannot do that at the drop of a hat. I usually need a weeks notice. If it's too short, I will tell him we need to do an after school club. He doesn't like to do this because it costs money.

Everything is about money with him. Essentially I don't earn enough to cover the inconvenience of my job. However he's said that if I made significantly more - say £60k plus then that would outweigh the inconvenience.

Thing is, in order for me to earn £60k+ in a corporate role along the lines of what I'm doing now, I'd need to commute into a London office 3-4 times a week, I couldn't help with drop offs or pick ups because of the commute, and I'd need to travel a lot more than what I'm doing now.

So while the extra money sounds good to him now, I know he'd still find issues with a new higher paying role after a few months.

He will never be satisfied Confused

You are right. He will never be satisfied. You can never win. Believe me.

Focus on yourself. You are a separate person. With your own life, goals, dreams and achievements. As well as joint family ones. Its not about the money. Its about you.

croydon15 · 14/03/2025 21:05

You need to make childcare arrangements while you're away, of course it will cost money but surely you can afford it, it will take the pressure of your DH.

EggFriedRiceAndChips · 14/03/2025 22:14

Do not under any circumstances give up or compromise your career because he wants you to for his own selfish reasons. The small child years are short, you will really need it in the future. You need your identity , own money and pension contributions. Don’t let him guilt trip and fuck with you. Your job sounds cool and you sound good at it, which is a lottery win frankly.

ThistleTits · 14/03/2025 22:17

AndSoFinally · 13/03/2025 11:57

I can see why he's annoyed. In his eyes he does most of the work at home and earns most of the money and your job is interfering with the smooth running of the home, and is increasing his workload, while not really contributing a lot to the joint pot

I know you say you do 95% of the evening meals, but if he is having to juggle the kids, homework, finishing his own work, bath, bedtime, etc, while you stand in the kitchen in peace, again it's not really "helpful" as such. Let's face it, I'd rather be the cook in that situation. Have you offered to swap?

I think in terms of keeping your job, buying in help to cover the shortfall is probably key

If he was that concerned about the evening meals, he should take some on. Leaving the op to do homework, baths etc.
These are not the issues. He doesn't want his partner working, he claims he doesn't understand the hierarchy of other people's professions. He does understand, he just doesn't like it. Showing infantile foot stamping and dismissive attitude to his partners work.

Pussycat22 · 14/03/2025 22:20

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:30

He does the breakfasts (cereal) and I do 95% of the evening meals.

Despite me cooking most of the evening meals, he then twists it around and gets angry with me because he feels that days I'm working in the office or in London he has to deal with the stress of his own work and the children until I get home at 5:30 where I avoid the chaos at home and 'swoop in and only have to do a bit of cooking'. Confused

Oh diddums .

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 14/03/2025 22:30

Teddybear23 · 14/03/2025 19:33

I personally would not take a job that is more than 9-5 if you have children.

Why not? Plenty of men do 🤷🏼‍♀️

MyTherapistSaidImAnAdult · 15/03/2025 00:29

Literally I'd love your work hours and salary.

I'm a carer and work ALL the hours day and night and earn way less than that.

And guess what? Becaise I LOVE my job... my husband (who earns 6 times as much as I do AND pays ALL the bills)... does ALL the school runs. So that I can continue to do a job I value and take pride in.

Pomollo · 15/03/2025 08:08

Your job seems really flexible if you can WFH and do drop offs

I work in an office my husband is self employed and like yours does alot of childcare. To compensate I pay for the wraparound care

i have to travel sometimes overseas but unlike yours my husband fully supports tis and gets that I don’t have his flexibility it’s just the nature of an office job right?

I’m sad I miss out on home life as I don’t get to wfh or do drop offs or pick ups I think your role sounds like you can be fully involved in a way that many jobs out there don’t allow

KTMeetsTheRsUptown · 15/03/2025 09:18

I think YABU and so is your DH. No idea how you sort it though 🤔 😅

Themaghag · 15/03/2025 15:45

Sadly, although the majority of men want, or indeed expect, their wives to work and preferably earn a lot of money for doing so, your DH is simply articulating the commonly held male view that wives should also do/organise the majority of childcare and domestic labour too. Heaven forfend that any man should ever be mildly inconvenienced by his wife's employment! I certainly wouldn't capitulate to this sort of nonsense or pander to him in any way whatsover. Your home and your children are a joint responsibility as he will rapidly discover if you ever divorce. And I'd point out that divorce is becoming more and more of a reality every time he whines about having to parent his own children or shoulder his share of the domestic load. Under no circumstances should you ever jeopardise your career prospects on his say so.

Molstraat · 15/03/2025 16:33

Themaghag · 15/03/2025 15:45

Sadly, although the majority of men want, or indeed expect, their wives to work and preferably earn a lot of money for doing so, your DH is simply articulating the commonly held male view that wives should also do/organise the majority of childcare and domestic labour too. Heaven forfend that any man should ever be mildly inconvenienced by his wife's employment! I certainly wouldn't capitulate to this sort of nonsense or pander to him in any way whatsover. Your home and your children are a joint responsibility as he will rapidly discover if you ever divorce. And I'd point out that divorce is becoming more and more of a reality every time he whines about having to parent his own children or shoulder his share of the domestic load. Under no circumstances should you ever jeopardise your career prospects on his say so.

So agree with this.
Most men cannot be inconvenienced in any way.
My friends sister was with one such prick.
His mask was maintained all the way while they built a lovely home on a site gifted to them by her parents.
Once the house was built he became skittish about the wedding, wanting the house finished fully.
She very very accidentally became pregnant with twins and wouldn't terminate.
The real him then emerged.

Childcare was on her completely as his job was so important and yet she was expected to fully pay half of everything and actually paid more as he deemed anything but the bare minimum for the children to be wasteful.
My friend and her parents were so sad to see her treated so poorly by such a selfish man for years. Her parents and my friend did so much to support her as he was always so busy with work.

He thought he was such a prize and even his family were embarrassed by his refusal to marry her.
When the twins turned six her godfather died and much to the stunned surprise of her family she was left a house and 750k.
Her worm partner couldn't conceal his joy and plans for it, quickly talking weddings etc.
Thanks be to god she had more cop on than to listen to handand realised this was her way out.

A fxxkup at the original signing of the site over to her meant it had not been completed properly and the site remained in her parents name.

He hadn't been half as cute as he thought he had and they forced the sale of the house over to her.
He got half of what he had paid and a modest return.
The alternative was him wasting fees on solicitors to fight them.
He begged and pleaded with her to reconsider for the children but considering he had never once done a single drop off for them, this held no weight.
The girls are late teens now and have had a great childhood.
His family have always been kind, he really was an embarrassment to them.
She was cured of men and is very very comfortably off and isn't interested in marriage.
She has told my friend that such was the extent that he duped her, she would never risk another relationship and prefers singledom.

Slidingthrulife · 15/03/2025 19:25

Goodness me - you are so negative in what you say yet you bring so so much. You are almost justifying what you do which you clearly don’t need to.

This is not an equal partnership on any level

WhiteJasmin · 15/03/2025 19:47

Might be a differing view but personally wouldn't get a job that takes me away from kids when they are young. If career is such a big deal, then should have thought about that before having kids to agree on a plan. This doesn't matter on the gender, would be the same if the husband takes on a job requiring travelling. It's not fair for a spouse to be the default parent and the income it brings logically doesn't make sense for the inconvenience.

Skodacool · 15/03/2025 20:57

Springadorable · 13/03/2025 12:26

Is it that he feels that you're prioritising your work above everything without acknowledging it? When you say you're on a call so can't get the kids and he'll have to do it even though he's also in the middle of something, it does sound a bit like you're dictating how things happen. I can also see what he means about coming in and disappearing to cook dinner - in our house that is by far the easier job if it's that or look after wild feral evening kids. Can you discuss which jobs he feels he needs specific change with? Like if he cook and you do the kids in the evening?

I agree you can't find his dream version of your job. But I can also see why, if he is the high earner and still having to tiptoe around your meetings which seem to get moved randomly that as well as doing most of the school runs and after school childcare he's a bit pissed off. From an output viewpoint, you're putting in a lot of effort for not much financial or time reward.

To repeat someone else’s response, if the jobs were reversed OP would be the one having to do all the stuff DH is complaining about.

ConkerGame · 15/03/2025 21:05

Eesh sorry but I can see his point a bit. To my mind you simply don’t earn enough to give away so much of your freedom to your employer. Time is money after all. I would only work your sort of schedule etc for a minimum of £100k. At your salary I wouldn’t be accepting weekends away with work, short notice meeting changes etc, unless I was very junior in my twenties and knew I’d earn more money and freedom soon with promotions.

I would be annoyed in your DH’s position too tbh. I earn more than DH and I expect him to drop work stuff/push back on it more than me as ultimately it’s my salary that’s keeping us afloat. I also push back as much as poss in my own role too though - I just don’t think anyone should be bowing down unnecessarily to their employer.