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Why are (some specifically mine) men like this?

285 replies

TakingBackSunday · 09/03/2025 00:52

DH has gone out tonight okay fine, asked me to drop him off but forgot to tell me about the football match so spent 40 minutes in traffic with two kids ... fine whatever, he could have gotten a taxi tho 🙄

Refused to take the keys because he'd be back at 12 (been out since 5) as he knows I can't go to bed without locking the door as I don't feel safe sleeping with two kids and the door unlocked.

Hasn't messaged me since 10pm

Wonder when he'll get home .. wonder when I'll get to go to bed.

Bet he expects me to get up with them tomorrow as well Hmm

OP posts:
SuperTrooper14 · 09/03/2025 09:59

TakingBackSunday · 09/03/2025 01:55

He's actually not that bad.

I'm just pissed off and tired, he won't get up with the kids cos he'll be hung over, tired whatever and if he does get up with them he'll just be miserable and probably fall asleep watching them so it's better I get up but it's just really frustrating and it could have been solved if he either took the keys when I gave them to him or come home at 12 like agreed.

He really is that bad.

He could've gone out under his own steam but forced you to put your kids in the car for 40 minutes to ferry him there. Then he refused to take his keys knowing you'd have to wait up late to let him in.

What a selfish, inconsiderate shitbox.

He's not alone either. MN this morning is full of threads about useless men with virtually no redeeming qualities calling the shots and expecting their wives/partners to be thankful for being in a relationship with them. Time to raise those bars, ladies!

Thisismetooaswell · 09/03/2025 10:00

Definitely get a key safe (a good one). My DH always takes keys - and will always check when we get in the car - drives me mad. I always say it doesn't matter if we haven't, we've got the safe

wherearemypastnames · 09/03/2025 10:01

Next time lock the door and go to bed

This morning , yell "I'm off, you look after the kids " and go out

And when he moans say you are treating him the way he treats you - with no respect or care

Halloumiheaven · 09/03/2025 10:02

Porcuporpoise · 09/03/2025 09:52

According to Google a "pandy" is either a blow to the hand with a strap or stick, a mill or mashed potatoes (Irish, informal). It's also an unpleasant piece of British Indian colonial slang. Which one do you think fits here?

I'm not here to retract my opinion because you try to dissect it.

I'm allowed an opinion. If you disagree with it , that's absolutely fine.

Have a lovely day in the sunshine.

SALaw · 09/03/2025 10:03

Do you stay up until after 12 regardless of whether he's out or was he requiring you to stay up late for him to get in?

SuperTrooper14 · 09/03/2025 10:04

Halloumiheaven · 09/03/2025 09:49

Google is available

Well according to Google pandying "is the present participle of the verb "pandy", which means to punish a child by striking the palm of their hand with a strap or cane. It is mainly used in Scotland and Ireland."

Think you mean pandering.

If you're going to denigrate women for the sins of their sons, at least get the insult right.

LovelyLeitrim · 09/03/2025 10:04

Halloumiheaven · 09/03/2025 10:02

I'm not here to retract my opinion because you try to dissect it.

I'm allowed an opinion. If you disagree with it , that's absolutely fine.

Have a lovely day in the sunshine.

You really should retract it, it was nonsense!

You enjoy the sunshine as well!

Destinye · 09/03/2025 10:04

This isn’t something I’ve ever heard a grown man do, either.

@SuperTrooper14 selfish, inconsiderate shitbox is right :-)

SALaw · 09/03/2025 10:06

TakingBackSunday · 09/03/2025 02:26

I got a notification that an Ubers been booked so he's on his way back then I can get some sleep before little one wakes up.

Key safe might be a good idea but you're right next time he takes keys or I'm locking up at the time he'd say he'd be home 😴

Have you sat up until 2.30am waiting for him to come home?!?

LovelyLeitrim · 09/03/2025 10:06

Halloumiheaven · 09/03/2025 09:28

Oh bore off with all the feminist "gotchas"

I'm allowed an opinion that doesn't follow the entrenched 2025 'groupthink'.

In my experience, pandying mothers can contribute to lazy entitled men.

But you do you. Go save the world.

It’s pandering 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Undethetree · 09/03/2025 10:07

OP look up coercive control. Sorry you are going through this. Hope your day today is not too difficult.

Halloumiheaven · 09/03/2025 10:07

LovelyLeitrim · 09/03/2025 10:04

You really should retract it, it was nonsense!

You enjoy the sunshine as well!

Thankyou I will. Lovely day for a family walk.

I don't have to retract my opinion. And I won't. I'm sorry if that disappoints you. Not being able to express opinions is what leads people to whispering their real opinions to their friends in private and filtering them and going along with 'groupthink' in public.

Then men end up in women's toilets....

LovelyLeitrim · 09/03/2025 10:08

Halloumiheaven · 09/03/2025 10:07

Thankyou I will. Lovely day for a family walk.

I don't have to retract my opinion. And I won't. I'm sorry if that disappoints you. Not being able to express opinions is what leads people to whispering their real opinions to their friends in private and filtering them and going along with 'groupthink' in public.

Then men end up in women's toilets....

Don’t be “pandying” to them 🤣🤣🤣🤣

gannett · 09/03/2025 10:11

There are so so many threads on MN along these lines where the man has forgotten (or deliberately not taken!) their keys. It's the most baffling thing. Everyone knows plans can change at the drop of the hat. The person who's in might have to go out. The person who's out might stay out longer than planned. Why is it so hard to TAKE YOUR KEYS? This is something that every chaotic drunken 20-something in every houseshare I've ever lived in managed, so what's with all the grown men who can't do it?

In OP's position I wouldn't have let him leave the house without his keys but if he really insisted I'd have just gone to bed when I wanted and let him fend for himself. I'm a heavy sleeper so no guarantees he'd have woken me up even if he'd banged on the door. I'd have also reflected heavily on why I was married to such an idiot.

Heronwatcher · 09/03/2025 10:12

My DP is absolutely not like this. If he ever pulled a stunt like this he’d be sleeping in the shed. TBH I would too!

There was once a thread on MN about a man who refused to take his keys out ever, but then went mental when his wife wasn’t in to let him into the house. Like she was an unpaid concierge. In that case it was a horrifying sign of a deeply damaged relationship.

LochKatrine · 09/03/2025 10:14

Halloumiheaven · 09/03/2025 10:07

Thankyou I will. Lovely day for a family walk.

I don't have to retract my opinion. And I won't. I'm sorry if that disappoints you. Not being able to express opinions is what leads people to whispering their real opinions to their friends in private and filtering them and going along with 'groupthink' in public.

Then men end up in women's toilets....

Do you think those men need a whack across the palm of the hand?

wherearemypastnames · 09/03/2025 10:15

It is just possible that the same word has different meanings in different locations

DubheYouCantBeSirius · 09/03/2025 10:15

@TakingBackSunday Would he do this to his best mate? Would he do this to his boss? No of course not. He's a jeb end and you need to sit him down and tell him his future. He has zero respect for you.

Halloumiheaven · 09/03/2025 10:16

LochKatrine · 09/03/2025 10:14

Do you think those men need a whack across the palm of the hand?

I think you need to accept my simple sentence as one offering of an opinion. I don't think it should be over analysed and dissected and me made to admit I'm wrong.

LovelyLeitrim · 09/03/2025 10:16

wherearemypastnames · 09/03/2025 10:15

It is just possible that the same word has different meanings in different locations

No idea, do you?

Even so, it’s not women’s fault that men behave badly, nor that they go in women’s toilets.

Rowena191 · 09/03/2025 10:17

Get a key safe, leave the keys in there then go to bed.

LochKatrine · 09/03/2025 10:17

wherearemypastnames · 09/03/2025 10:15

It is just possible that the same word has different meanings in different locations

No, they mean "pandering to". It's not a problem, it's easy to make a mistake with a choice of word, or mishear something originally. However, if someone thinks that's the right word, they get defensive.
Anyway. I think we get what they meant.

LovelyLeitrim · 09/03/2025 10:17

Halloumiheaven · 09/03/2025 10:16

I think you need to accept my simple sentence as one offering of an opinion. I don't think it should be over analysed and dissected and me made to admit I'm wrong.

I think your original comment, most certainly needed calling out and analysing.

A man behaved badly, blame a woman? Just why?

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/03/2025 10:18

Why do you tolerate this?

SuperTrooper14 · 09/03/2025 10:20

wherearemypastnames · 09/03/2025 10:15

It is just possible that the same word has different meanings in different locations

Pandying isn’t the same as pandering in any location!

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