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To not tell partner about daughter's a&e attendance

135 replies

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 22:01

As the title says really.

D is an adult, he expects me to tell him if she attends but as per patient confidentiality, given she's an adult I should not. Only when NOK contact is necessary which is her mother should I contact a parent, otherwise it would breach confidentiality unless she explicitly tells me to.

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Motherofdragons24 · 07/03/2025 23:29

Not really sure what the problem is here, it’s pretty straightforward what the answer is

Dad: please contact me if DD attends.
you: oh I’m sure she will let you know if she feels the need to and of course we have her NoK details if we need to contact someone.

end of discussion surely? Doesn’t need to be confrontational just be nonchalent and shut it down. if he pushes just say she has her phone and will call who she wants to and then NOK can share information with other family if the patient and NOK feel they need to.

these kinds of situations come up often in hospitals. If you’re struggling speak to a member of staff for support.

Normallynumb · 07/03/2025 23:30

Basic rules of confidentiality mean you can't tell him anything about anyone at all ever.... even DD
I find it hard to believe you work in A&E in any capacity

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 23:30

VioletVX · 07/03/2025 23:12

People who know your SD, obviously. Not saying random strangers.

I would pay to see anyone try.

Area?
Trust?
My position?
Is SD really female?

It's hypothetical, you would be terrible detective. I hope you don't work for the police!

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FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 23:31

Normallynumb · 07/03/2025 23:30

Basic rules of confidentiality mean you can't tell him anything about anyone at all ever.... even DD
I find it hard to believe you work in A&E in any capacity

I am not asking for the rules. Thanks.

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healthybychristmas · 07/03/2025 23:31

I think I would just say to him that if I had the opportunity to speak to his daughter in hospital I would ask her if she wanted him to know. I would then do whatever she wanted. If she is close to him then she may well want him to know anyway But it has to come from her. In the very unlikely event that she came in and wasn't conscious then I assume you would be telling her mother and would ask her mother whether her father should be told.

Can two people be next of kin?

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 07/03/2025 23:31

AnnaL94 · 07/03/2025 23:27

Thread after thread after thread on this site keeps reinforcing to me that men are ghastly, entitled creatures.

Edited

Yep.
Depressing stuff.

ByGreenBiscuit · 07/03/2025 23:32

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 23:27

Well apparently he has all rights ever to know about his adult daughter.

So, I've asked a friend the same hypothetical situation about her 16+ daughter and she'd also expect me tk blab. What is it with parental expectations when their children are ADULTS.

Sorry but you sound really immature. I’m glad that you’re not looking after me. Try exercising your own judgement instead of using a random bunch of strangers for their opinion so you can back it up to some dickhead.

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 23:32

Motherofdragons24 · 07/03/2025 23:29

Not really sure what the problem is here, it’s pretty straightforward what the answer is

Dad: please contact me if DD attends.
you: oh I’m sure she will let you know if she feels the need to and of course we have her NoK details if we need to contact someone.

end of discussion surely? Doesn’t need to be confrontational just be nonchalent and shut it down. if he pushes just say she has her phone and will call who she wants to and then NOK can share information with other family if the patient and NOK feel they need to.

these kinds of situations come up often in hospitals. If you’re struggling speak to a member of staff for support.

Yes, you'd like to think so. He expects me to blab?? Not going to happen.

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Normallynumb · 07/03/2025 23:33

Your posts are not particularly clear but for the DDs Father
" She is not allowed to tell you anything about anyone"

Motherofdragons24 · 07/03/2025 23:34

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 23:32

Yes, you'd like to think so. He expects me to blab?? Not going to happen.

Just keep repeating the same phrase. As I said sir we will ensure your daughter has access to a phone to contact you if she wishes…

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 23:34

ByGreenBiscuit · 07/03/2025 23:32

Sorry but you sound really immature. I’m glad that you’re not looking after me. Try exercising your own judgement instead of using a random bunch of strangers for their opinion so you can back it up to some dickhead.

WELL. Again the friend question was either way to prove how wrong he was.

Have you the thread?

My stake says no.

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PerfectPennyKilledMyHusband · 07/03/2025 23:37

VioletVX · 07/03/2025 23:12

People who know your SD, obviously. Not saying random strangers.

That's a bit ridiculous. All we know is the OP works in A&E and has a stepdaughter. That could apply to hundreds, possibly thousands of people!

EnjoyingTheArmoire · 07/03/2025 23:38

Ask him if he'd be okay with you calling HIS parents if he attended A&E for any reason and sharing his medical info?

PorridgeEater · 07/03/2025 23:39

"Well apparently he has all rights ever to know about his adult daughter."

You must know this is not true, and so should he.
How can you stay with someone so controlling?

Poppyseeds79 · 07/03/2025 23:39

Have you both had a few drinks tonight? It sounds like one of "those" kind of conversations 🥳

RedHelenB · 07/03/2025 23:43

VioletVX · 07/03/2025 22:12

Even posting this on Mumsnet is risking violating patient confidentiality.

Sounds like a pretty niche situation, with a lot of identifying information - adult daughter with separated parents, mother is NOK, father’s new partner works at A&E, sounds like the daughter likely has some ongoing addiction/mental health issues etc.

There must be people who could identify your step daughter from this.

Edited

Really not, I can think of 3 people off the top of my head that this could relate to. Not multiply that by millions

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 23:44

Poppyseeds79 · 07/03/2025 23:39

Have you both had a few drinks tonight? It sounds like one of "those" kind of conversations 🥳

Bingo!

He's actually really riled me.

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Bluenotgreen · 07/03/2025 23:47

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 22:51

Yeah it's definitely hypothetical and it came up in conversation but he basically said if he found out I knew then we'd be over!

Save him the trouble and tell him to piss off.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 07/03/2025 23:50

Bluenotgreen · 07/03/2025 23:47

Save him the trouble and tell him to piss off.

🤣🤣🤣

CJsGoldfish · 07/03/2025 23:52

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 22:39

Can I clarify, I'm not asking what I should do.

I'm asking because it came up in conversation and I said, I would not tell him so I wanted to show that I was right.

🤷‍♀️If you have to PROVE to him that it is unethical and need to ask random people to back you up says to me that you need to find a better partner
It is up to him to have the kind of relationship with his child that would have her wanting to share so he could support.
The fact that he'd expect you to put YOUR job and livelihood at risk because he doesn't really isn't a great sign.
Patient confidentiality is a crucial part of care and someone who doesn't understand that wouldn't be worth my time 🤷‍♀️

L0bstersLass · 08/03/2025 00:03

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 22:51

Yeah it's definitely hypothetical and it came up in conversation but he basically said if he found out I knew then we'd be over!

@FedUp120028 - well that's your cue to tell him it's over right now.
He's a control freak.
Does this piece of shit man bring you any joy at all? Have a hard think about that.

Oh, and please do show him this.

WilfredsPies · 08/03/2025 00:05

VioletVX · 07/03/2025 22:12

Even posting this on Mumsnet is risking violating patient confidentiality.

Sounds like a pretty niche situation, with a lot of identifying information - adult daughter with separated parents, mother is NOK, father’s new partner works at A&E, sounds like the daughter likely has some ongoing addiction/mental health issues etc.

There must be people who could identify your step daughter from this.

Edited

An adult female with a step parent who works in a medical facility and a dad who has no comprehension of privacy or his partner’s responsibilities with regard to confidentiality?

Oh yeah, I definitely know her!

User1786 · 08/03/2025 00:06

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 23:02

Why?

Because it hasn’t actually happened. What’s the point in arguing about any hypothetical situation. If something really happens feelings will come in to it and that’s different. I work for the NHS and know what I should do and have never breached any IG rules but it it was family, I can’t 100% say what I would do and I don’t think anyone could really. We all know what we should do. So it just seems like making an argument over the cake of it.

WilfredsPies · 08/03/2025 00:08

FedUp120028 · 07/03/2025 22:51

Yeah it's definitely hypothetical and it came up in conversation but he basically said if he found out I knew then we'd be over!

Wtf are you doing with this dickhead? Why are you prolonging the inevitable?

marena1 · 08/03/2025 03:48

Sorry OP, but I'm in a similar situation but don't work in a hospital. My DH who has a pretty good relationship with his parents in general has told me if he is ever taken off to hospital I am not to call them under any circumstances.
I feel dreadful about this because if it was my son I'd want to know straight away.
The reason is that a couple of years ago he was taken to hospital by ambulance for what is a very private reason. He said don't ring my mum she'll get upset. Speak to dad and then he can tell her. So I did.
Within 5 minutes she called me back and then said "I was just explaining it to Elsie ( her sister) and she said she knows a good doctor. I asked why she had told DH's aunt and she said "I didn't know it was a secret"!!!! How do you get to 77yo and not know that you dont talk about peoples personal health information without checking with them first.
I'm in a conundrum now. He is not in the greatest of health but if I ring and he's fine I will be the bad one. If I don't ring and it goes bad I will never be forgiven.
Sorry again OP for massive derail.

In your situation, don't disclose any info. Just say No.