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Middle-aged professional women doing drugs on the weekend

542 replies

Snookerfan · 02/03/2025 22:12

Is this common now? I was invited to a house party Saturday night and snow was being done quite openly, there were also Mary Jane vapes and Ecstasy passed around.

These were mainly mothers with adult grown sensible families. What is going on, am I totally not with it?

Was it always this way or is this scene infiltrating a different demographic now?

We always knew people like this did this, but was it this open and accepted?

I didn’t partake, still a great night.

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0ohLarLar · 03/03/2025 07:59

The differences between alcohol and drugs like heroin/crack:

  • the vast majority of people manage to consume some alcohol without it taking over their lives.
  • even among those who drink more than they should, many are "functioning" and hold down homes and jobs

Heroin addicts (& other opioids like fentanyl), crack users, meth heads, tend to wind up homeless & completely unable to care for themselves, work, or handle the demands of normal life (like children). The highly addictive nature of the drugs means people resort to crime & prostitution to get a fix.

I can't possibly see how these drugs can ever be legalised.

ImmediateReaction · 03/03/2025 07:59

Where were the keys kept?🤔

SillyOP · 03/03/2025 07:59

This has got Daily Mail researcher written all over it.

in fact there was an article on there last week using very similarly odd vocabulary. The kind that only exists in newspaper articles

TheIceBear · 03/03/2025 08:00

penguinbiscuity · 03/03/2025 07:58

Yeah, you're too young! 😁

The rave generation are 40s-60s now.

I knew plenty of people using coke and ecstasy when I was in my 20s. Don’t know anyone doing them now in our 30s.most have small kids now though.

christmaspudding43 · 03/03/2025 08:02

penguinbiscuity · 03/03/2025 07:51

When I told ok drugs in the 90s, most of it didn't come through gangs. Quite a lot of it can't from old hippies, it was a cottage industry. We used to get speed one person away from someone who made it at home, similarly the acid came from old hippies, who had friends who made it, some of the ecstacy via Holland where it was legal (this was the first to get taken over by the gangs AFAIK) and the ketamine was brough into the UK in small amounts from countries where it was legal to buy it in pharmacies by the people who sold it to their mates - no gangs involved. And for a long time Ketamine wasn't even illegal.

I'm totally out of touch now so I have no idea where the drugs come from these days. The hippies who are still with us are mostly too old for that kind of malarkey I would imagine. And I can well see how gangs would move in on this.

Having said that, I always assumed county lines was mainly the hard core stuff like crack / coke / heroin, isn't it?

The quickest way to get rid of drug gangs is to legalise and treat addiction as a health issue not a crime. Especially weed - make it legal for people to grow small amounts at home, then it's totally pure and zero money to drug gangs.

Edited

I don't know; a quick Google suggests county lines is used for weed and mdma as well but how prevalent it is vs coke etc I'm not sure.

ToutesetBonne · 03/03/2025 08:03

Snookerfan · 03/03/2025 00:07

We did have one politician there, and a magistrate. Politician was into the vape, magistrate happily expertly hoovering a line. Most funny of all, my friend’s kid’s geography teacher was there. Bizarrely, I was more shocked by the school teacher than anyone else.
Not much hard drinking at all come to think of it. Pretty decorous in a casual sort of way, all things considered.

This is the sort of nonsense my daughter's upper class friends would spout when they were teenagers, thinking that they would impress people and sound grown-up 😂Is it still the school holidays?

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 08:03

ToutesetBonne · 03/03/2025 08:03

This is the sort of nonsense my daughter's upper class friends would spout when they were teenagers, thinking that they would impress people and sound grown-up 😂Is it still the school holidays?

I know 😊

doodahdayy · 03/03/2025 08:04

Strawberryfruitcorner · 02/03/2025 22:27

And here’s little old me worried about having a coffee after 4 pm 🤣🤣

Ha I try and avoid caffeine after lunchtime. You're a rebel to me!

Errors · 03/03/2025 08:04

Strawberryfruitcorner · 02/03/2025 22:27

And here’s little old me worried about having a coffee after 4 pm 🤣🤣

Same 😂😂

HelpMeGetThrough · 03/03/2025 08:05

there were also Mary Jane vapes

A what?

I guess I don't pop down to Vape Nation and ask for one of these. 🤷‍♀️

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 03/03/2025 08:14

Bluh · 02/03/2025 23:21

@Janedoe82 no, I haven’t. But I believe this post is about people who take drugs recreationally and not addicts. Same as a post about drinking with friends isn’t about alcoholics. And people don’t respond as such.

Taken sensibly drugs are not worse than alcohol - and that has been proven time and time again. Indeed by the government’s own drugs Czar David Nutt.

I don’t care if people drink or don’t drink, take drugs or don’t take drugs. It just screams uneducated to cry about the difference when there isn’t one

The key difference is that drugs are illegal so to get hold of them people are supporting an often violent and exploitative supply chain.

In response to OP, no it's not normal amongst my friends.

whathaveiforgotten · 03/03/2025 08:17

@bluh

I don’t care if people drink or don’t drink, take drugs or don’t take drugs. It just screams uneducated to cry about the difference when there isn’t one

The supply chain is hugely different.

Kids aren't getting involved in county lines to get wine or beer or spirits to the end user are they?

And the middle class mums and dads who 'dabble' would be horrified if it was their kids getting sucked into county lines.

It's really hypocritical.

KatyaKabanova · 03/03/2025 08:17

Plus those who compare cannabis to alcohol use aren't comparing like to like. One glass of wine isn't as harmful as one spliff. People compare it to being alcoholics.

Scrubberdubber · 03/03/2025 08:19

Ah yes because only young unprofessional men can have fun

TheWorminLabyrinth · 03/03/2025 08:23

friendlycat · 02/03/2025 22:36

I certainly haven’t seen anything like this amongst my friends and honestly would be appalled.

If anything old friends who used to smoke are quite judgmental now towards anyone who still does and that includes normal vaping.

The only thing I’ve noticed is that now the children are all older and independent, some friends are more likely to enjoy wine more than perhaps before. Where as they might have just had one glass they’re more open to say three glasses etc.

Three glasses? Absolute madheads.

HeyThereDelila · 03/03/2025 08:23

YANBU. I think it’s becoming more common in some circles, not in others.

Personally I think it’s selfish and very socially irresponsible - illegal drug use, particularly cocaine, has an awful impact on working class kids, women, leads to other crime, has ruined South America etc. Makes me laugh when leftie newspaper writers go on about “social injustice” when I know for a fact many such journos do cocaine at weekends.

I was at a party recently; I went to bed about 2am after which ketamine came out and the hostess called a coke dealer to the house. I had no problem telling my friend exactly what I thought of this behaviour the following day.

Time was, most people would be horrified at the thought of associating with criminals or having drug dealers come to their house. I still am.

Sadly we live in very different times today.

NOTANUM · 03/03/2025 08:25

Back in the 90s and 00s, there were two groups: those who drank to excess as lads and ladettes, and those who did clubbed and did drugs, mostly ecstasy and similar. The two groups barely met.. I was part of the former gang and it’s interesting to see that many still drink to excess and in some cases, are reformed or binge alcoholics now. (I only socially drink now but am unusual).

So to answer your question, you’re seeing the grownups from this era, reverting to type. You’ve just stumbled into the “other half” of the equation that was always there.

Pixilicious1 · 03/03/2025 08:26

ItsCalledAConversation · 02/03/2025 22:22

lol at “snow” and “Mary Jane” are you a 1970s Miami drug dealer?

Party sounds fun. Not unheard of, unusual where I’m from though. Kids all out of the way or were there kids in the house?

🤣

NOTANUM · 03/03/2025 08:26

This is one area where the millennials and Z Gen have got it right by the way.

Raindropskeepfallinonmyhead · 03/03/2025 08:28

Strawberryfruitcorner · 02/03/2025 22:27

And here’s little old me worried about having a coffee after 4 pm 🤣🤣

Ha me too - switched to decaf tea recently!

Leeto888 · 03/03/2025 08:29

ItShouldntHappenToMeYet · 03/03/2025 07:25

The outrage on here is hilarious!
Particularly the horrified gangs who run the drug trade. Are they horrified that they are a gang, or that they are a drugs gang?

Hilarious? It’s not hilarious to hate kids and vulnerable adults being exploited by drugs gangs and innocent people being killed in crossfire. You need an urgent reset of your moral compass.

Ilovethatbear · 03/03/2025 08:29

PonyPatter44 · 02/03/2025 22:42

Sounds like a load of performative wank. Middle aged, middle class druggies are deeply tedious. You probably need some new friends.

I agree. I did laugh at “snow”. Mary Jane is used by Gen Z ironically.

Anyway, they are tragic, clearly, and no, everyone isn’t having a ridiculous crisis like this. My DC are mid twenties. My friends are all quitting the Pinot Grigio and taking up Peleton and Mounjaro. 9:30 bedtime.

You need superior quality friends.

Leeto888 · 03/03/2025 08:30

Scrubberdubber · 03/03/2025 08:19

Ah yes because only young unprofessional men can have fun

Ridiculous.

Doitrightnow · 03/03/2025 08:34

Not in my circle, I wouldn't be friends with people who did this.

Greyrockin · 03/03/2025 08:40

Red0 · 02/03/2025 23:11

I continue to be shocked that parents in their 40s with primary school aged children - professional people, outwardly sensible nice people - are sniffing cocaine on a weekend including back home after an evening out, taking pills when it’s a bigger night out, taking a line here and there on a random weekday night at the pub. These are parents I see at school that I would never suspect, but through mutual friends, I know a lot more about them then they realise!

I’ve known this to happen (though on a slightly more discreet level) at children’s parties. Some of the mums were school governors (local private school).

edited to clarify that some of the mums took coke during children’s parties.

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