To be jealous of everyone getting slim in weight loss jabs while I get fatter !

[Sundayslump]

Okay - lighthearted ? Maybe.

I’ve been lucky to grow up and be a size 10 . Had a baby at 27. Lost all the weight but my body changed. Baby 2 , again gained 4 stone but I’ve always kept the last stone. I am now 12/14 uk.

I work full time and have two children . I eat healthy for the most part and walk and exercise. When I am super strict which feels so much harder at 40 I am a size 12 but unlike in my 30s it seems so much harder to lose weight now . I feel crap in my clothes and I wish and dream of being a size 10. Call me pathetic !

My brother and his wife , twos sisters and their husbands , work colleagues and a few of my good friends who were never obese but had a few stone to lose are all taking weight loss jabs. They have all lost around 2/3/4 stone and are all now looking fab . All the women are now in size 8 jeans and I am jealous. I sound pathetic . None of these ladies were any bigger than a 14/16 to start with.

I totally understand these jabs are so life changing for so many people who need them but it seems in my life everyone has taken them and gone from a 14/16 to a size 8/6 size Uk and I can’t help but feel like if I just bloody jump on the bandwagon I will feel good, feel happy and be slim.

Now everyone around me is so slim I feel ever more aware of my size .

I want to state I exercise and do eat a healthy diet . I have just found after two babies and getting older unless I basically stick to 1200 calories a day I can’t maintain a size 12.
Ahhhhhh. Sorry for sounding so so so vain.

Well they are taking expensive medications which might ( no one knows for sure) have huge implications on their future health. They are probably not learning to regulate their diet by relying on the medication, so the weight they have lost will in all probability come back at some stage.

Youon the other hand are able to maintain a healthy weight, understand about eating in moderation, and exercise to keep your body healthy. I understand that you are not happy with how you look atm, but you are not overweight so maybe a trip to the gym and a few sessions with a personal trainer will give you ideas of how to exercise more effectively to improve the way you see your body shape.

Of course you can. Most people get them from private prescriptions so take it for as long as they want or as long as they can afford them. Even people getting them from the NHS it's up to you how long you take a drug for.

How long it would take to lose a stone would vary from person to person. Probably better not to aim to lose a stone too quickly as healthier to lose weight slowly and steadily.

Unfortunately OP losing weight as we age is harder. Especially as women, we just end up being overweight either from the menopause or just because of a love of food (or both for me lol).

I'm the same as you and used to be a very slim size 10, lovely build but with no waist or hips really. Now aged 43, in perimenopause, and 3 DC later, I've become a size 12 and 10.5 stone - not good weight-wise for someone who is 5'2"!😕😫😳

Admittedly, i should exercise more and eat smaller portions, but I've always loved my food so it really is hard.

The only time I lost weight and looked great was on my low carb diet for gestational diabetes in my son's pregnancy - which was actually quite easy to stick to but the weight obviously came back 😅

Do you worry about the side effects from people taking methodone? Blood pressure pills? Diabetes medication etc?

These drugs have been around for years in America and have helped many people lose weight and become healthy maybe for the first time in their lives. There will always be people who will abuse drugs. I can buy pretty much anything online if I want to - why is the focus only on WLI's?

Why are you so worried about hypothetical problems that won't affect you as you don't need or want to take them?

Its a new thing, I get it - and some people are sore that chubby folk will now be getting slim with less effort. You'll get used to it though, and by the time it can be cheaply popped in pill form you'll probably be buying it yourselves.

Yes I feel the same. I’ve packed on weight since my second child and think it’s hormonal. I don’t want to go on injections ideally as I’m worried about side effects and the “unknown”. However I am going to try some perimenopause supplements and matcha tea to see if that can help me kick start my metabolism.
I see some people taking these injections who I don’t think need to and worry about the physical and psychological effects it has on those people.

Looks like you needed mumsnet’s approval though 🤣🤣

It is a kind of greed.

If people were truly hungry, they'd be happy to eat a slice of wholemeal bread and proper butter, or wait for a proper mealtime.

But instead, it's easy to buy a packet of Cheddars, the 500mls of ice cream, the family pack of Maltesers to oneself- Salty, fatty, sweet stuff..It tastes so nice.

''A minute in the mouth, a month on the hips'' is what mum used to say.
{She's still really slim- and very disciplined}

Friend's sister has a genetic dislike of sweet stuff, she cannot tolerate it in any way shape or form.

That is lucky.

Hunger is natural, and happens even when you are on Mounjaro. It’s your body’s way of telling you to eat.

”Food noise” - and I too hate the buzzwordiness of the term - is different. You’re not actually genuinely hungry, but because you’re depriving yourself of the foods you most want, you’re constantly thinking about them. Counting down the hours to when you’re “allowed” to eat next. Forcing yourself to have one square of chocolate when you actually want one square foot, and then being on edge all day because you think you might crack and have a second square. Planning your life around the much-vaunted “three healthy meals a day”, being desperate for the next one to arrive, and then being sorry it did because it’s been chosen on calorie/fat levels rather than according to what you actually fancy. And you STILL feel guilty for eating it.

I don't think you understand what sarcopenia means.

I'm the same as you. Used to always be a size 10 but now a 12-14 in my 40s. Excerise and eat well, but still overweight for my frame. My friend raved about the weight loss injections. She did have problems getting it for a month and put a stone back on. Now she's worried about not being able to get it again, also coming off it when she hits her target weight. I honestly don't think it's a good idea because you don't know what the lasting effects will be, after years of injecting the chemicals.

right, so greed?
You do realise that slim people have exactly the same urges pretty often but acknowledge that the square foot of chocolate would be greedy .
It's still a basic human instinct to be greedy.

This sounds more like someone with a drug addiction?!

Truly.

I feel your pain OP, although I dont know anybody using the weight loss injections. Three kids, managed to maintain a relatively healthy size 14/16 (UK),, now 46, perimenopause has hit, I know I have added half a stone in the last year which has pushed me into the size 18 clothes in some places. Trying so hard to not eat rubbish, no snacking, upping my exercise, which to be honest is only walking but to no avail!

Oh this is really disingenuous

Try the jab if you qualify.

They really are amazing but not for everyone. Due to side effects.

I'm waiting to find out if actually it's all a con and there is a massive downside..... not so far tho

I've been amazed so far.

I was a size 16.

BMI - classified Obese.

I'd like to be a healthy weight and a smaller size.
But most of all healthy and to reduce my risks of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's and an earlier death or just an unwell poor older age .

And at a size 16 I was classified as obese and therefore at higher risk of all those things so when this jab came along I decided to seize the opportunity.

And why not?!

When we eat, we release a hormone called GLP1, that hormone informs our brain that we are full, it stops you thinking about food, or the next meal, until your stomach is emptied, and then it alerts you to wanting the next meal, with hunger. In some people, they are lacking receptors to this hormone, or the receptors dont work very well. Mounjaro, Ozempic, and GLP1 agnositic medications, ramp up these receptors. They also delay gastric emptying so the hormone is released for a longer period of time, its not appetite supression, but similar as it delays hunger signals.

In people who dont have adequate response to this hormone, food noise ocurs - it is different to hunger, and not greed. They feel the sensation of being full, but the brain does not turn off, so they think about food more, graze more, snack more, because their brain is thinking about food more so than a person who resonds to this hormone. Food noise is not something you can understand fully if you dont experince it. Its a new term, its a way of describing what some people think and why they over eat, why restrictive dieting is harder for them than others. Its not greed. Its a biological/genetic difference in the way they respond to a hormone, scientifically proven.

You know exactly what cravings and urgings every single person has, do you? Regardless of their size, tastes in food, genetic make-up and so on?

You’re just one of these sad people who gets their kicks from twattishly declaring that anyone with weight issues is just “greedy” with no self-control. It’s pathetic.

@LolaLouise Its a biological/genetic difference in the way they respond to a hormone, scientifically proven.

Could you link me to a paper on that please.
I assume there are a few?

no, I'm saying as h7umans we all have the urge to be greedy

Does it?!

And if it IS like a drug addiction, wouldn’t you think getting them on methadone might be a good idea?

Oh yes I do...

Muscle loss is minimal and occurs with all diets.
However, it is minimal..
It's just another overblown moan because people are finally waking up...

So what? What’s your point?

Thanks for the explanation 👍

Well it is addiction, isn't it? I read it and was nodding along. Chocolate is not my thing but other things are.

Reading ALovelyShadeOfMauve's post put me in mind of when I was smoking, especially along the lines of thinking about the next, wanting extra ones - the ongoing thoughts of cigarettes. It reminded me very much of that and smoking was definitely an addiction.

I posted earlier about envying people for whom food never dwells in their minds. For the rest of us, it's a battle of varying degrees. I don't envy anybody who goes through that. I applaud anybody who struggles and gets out the other side, however they do it.

I saw your earlier post about teacakes with that flashing gif and I don't think I've ever had one of those but it made me wonder what they're like and should I try one. I don't like chocolate. Suggestion is a really powerful thing.