To think Britain should have nothing to do with this war

[Foodtimeisit]

After yesterday's news, Britain shouldn't be the one funding war as USA has said they are out now. There's no chance Britain can fight this war alone with Ukraine against Russia.
Since this war started, our life has only become miserable with CoL increase.
AIBU to think we shouldn't have anything to do this war and we should fix our own problems first before giving away our tax money?

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, so not quite tge same as one country at war with another.

EE families in social housing doing the menial job fat lazy Brits won't do? OK. One child (conservative estimate) is 9K pa for a state school - 2008 data. If they have 2 kids - you calculate how much these costs the taxpayer, just to put them through school. And now let us speak about them 'paying taxes' - they don't even cover the cost of their offspring schooling! And then the social housing, top ups, credits or whatever they are, plus NHS services - great, isn't it?

Have you read the poem "First they came" by Pastor Martin Neimoller?

Sorry, then all those Palestinian children were killed by the non-terrorist ISL or whatever they are called?

Aye and Adolf only wanted Poland!

You don’t seem to remember it correctly.
Italy didn’t become involved until June 1940 because Mussolini thought he could appease Hitler by being on his side. If you don’t know what happened to Mussolini then I suggest you look it up, it wasn’t good. Italy then declared war on Germany in 1943 and joined the allied armies.

The US repeatedly refused to help until 1940 but only supplied aid and not troops, but after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour in 1941 they declared war on Japan, and later on Germany. So in actual fact the Americans DID stand back and allow us to be bombed, for two years.

Oh and you’ve also forgotten that Russia was on our side. Stalin had also tried to appease Hitler and spoiler alert, it didn’t work, you can’t appease dictators.

And Trump ... a friend recently went to South Africa, very difficult to get Internet. Starlink?

It's not just Britain and Ukraine against Russia, it's most of Europe.

I am not going to support the abandonment of Ukraine.

I sincerely hope all sides will find a landing strip, so we can avoid an escalation.

Need to get people in work ... to many being paid to sit at home, or elsewhere doing nothing. I'm not talking about people who are really dusabled here!

And Israel have bombed the fuck out of millions of innocent Palestinians, killed over 40k of them and seem bent on genocide. So yeah, you’re right. Not quite the same thing.

It’s becoming increasingly apparent that Zelenskyy wants us to up our contribution to the war. Financial aid is no longer helping. He wants feet on the ground - wants us to provide human fodder for their war. How many on here baying for Russia to be destroyed would be happy with their sons, husbands, brothers going to fight in Ukraine? Not many I’ll bet. Financial aid can only help so far, but then you need actual foot soldiers. Money won’t buy soldiers, only finance weapons. Russia will win eventually without Europe providing people to fight for them.

Blimey Nigel, tone it down a bit, you sound quite racist.

Defending Europe is cheaper and safer in the long term than letting the Red Army march back to Berlin.
Putin could be ousted at any time, as everyone knows what a rubbish idea invading Ukraine was...he could fall out his window, and the guy who comes after might be more friendly.

It’s a good job our forebears didn’t take that attitude in 1939 isn’t it.

@Hwi
You are so ignorant. Do you think Putin cares about his people? How many has he got killed in his ‘special operation’? Do you think he is loyal to anybody? He’ll be happy kill anybody for the ‘greater good of Mother Russia”.

Yep, all because the terrorists (Hamas) refused to return the hostages they took in October 2023. How many Palestinians could have been saved by Hamas just releasing the people they kidnapped back to their families? But instead they went to war sacrificing their ‘people’ for what? Nothing. Just ended up with a pile of rubble and 40k deaths. And stop trying to derail this thread by bringing Israel into it. Start your own thread…..

Maybe pop over to Russia and have a chat with Putin.

And I can’t believe that after 3 years there are people so informed or naive (or both) that you think our COL will be solved by stopping supporting Ukraine

Na, just a quick skin colour check eh🙄

Vance is an insecure fuckwit, Trump is a megalomaniac and Putin is a dictator… someone’s got to stand up to this trinity of bullies.

You’re forgetting about the population of native Brits that have never worked aren’t you? There’s several generations who have never worked. You are aware that not all working people are not receiving any type of top up from the government? Most EE countries have a better
level of education, government housing and health care. The reason most people come over (unless they are refugees) is because the wages are much higher in the UK. You see it all the time that menial jobs aren’t covered by Brits, the farmers have British fruit and veg pickers leaving in droves because they can’t hack the job. You know that was why the school summer holidays were invented- for the harvest. But the harvesting in the UK is mainly done by immigrants who are used to doing the harvest at home. I send my teens back to Latvia for the summer to do the harvest at a cousins farm and they get a lot out of it. And unfortunately I’m a higher rate tax payer but it is what it is, our responsibility to the society we live in.

And lots of young men died, many of them working class, many people don’t even wear poppies as a reminder of their sacrifice.

Many people in this country don’t have the appetite for another war overseas. Particularly as we never really come out it politically well.

@Foodtimeisit will not care until it directly affects her. Just see the many Trumpers are crying on social media now they have lost jobs/food stamps/health care.

The point is that this is a war with another country in Europe, not the middle east.

If Putin wins, he will creep onwards to other countries on the border, like Hitler did.

The stand against Putin is the same as the stand against Hitler. We have NATO and it's supposed to work.