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Woken up by adult kids AGAIN.... AIBU

457 replies

rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 10:04

My adult son still lives at home (he and his sister who is at Uni are moving in with their dad in the summer) but I just want to check if IABU. He and his GF are both early twenties, and she does stay over sometimes, which I am fine with. I have made the house rules that it's no more than three nights a week, but she's starting working at a nightclub and coming back at 3.00 am and waking me and my dog up. I have asked them both to stop, in fact I got them both up really early the last time they did it and sent her home. She did it again this week and I talked to her about it and she apologised. Last night, 2.30 am out she gets from an Uber and they are banging about downstairs! I spoke to my son who apologised. I've just asked him to send her home now, and he said I am "not very understanding." I feel awkward and uncomfortable in my own bloody home. Historically whenever I have put a boundary down with these two I am called to a meeting by them a few days later where she claims I don't like her, so I've cut that off with him today and said I won't be doing that, it's her behaviour I don't like. My son't argument is that he shouldn't have a curfew as an adult which I agree with, but I made the point that she doesn't live here! AIBU? I would never have dared behave like his in my parent's home at any age!

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HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 01/03/2025 17:10

Good for you for sticking up for yourself OP.

To be fair to your son, it sounds a bit like he is stuck between you and his demanding girlfriend, but that is his problem to solve not yours.

Pipsquiggle · 01/03/2025 17:12

Welll done OP. Good result

If he is struggling with sleeping he really needs to adopt a 'normal' and consistent pattern of sleep

dapsnotplimsolls · 01/03/2025 17:14

I wonder if someone showed him or his GF this thread!

CocoapuffPuff · 01/03/2025 17:14

Hmmm. Well, he's said the "right things" and you know better than any of us how likely he is to stick to them.

I'd still do a bit more to reduce his comfort in Mummy's home. Encourage him to grow the hell up.

Change the password on your wifi, immediately. He doesn't get to use it any more. He can go to GF's flat to use hers or, if he needs it for job applications, go use the free ones in cafes and libraries.

He's forced you to work through your tiredness multiple times yet he's whining about not sleeping when he's not working, so his empathy is seriously lacking. He's not the only person in the world who matters and frankly, taking a massive dump on the person who feeds you and puts a roof over your head is seriously stupid.

No overnight guests in your home unless you invite them yourself. He has forfeited that perk. He wants a special night with his gal, he goes to her place.

bigboykitty · 01/03/2025 17:18

Amazing job @rubberduck68 👏🏽 Proud of you. Please do not let him deviate from these boundaries even by 1mm.

Glittertwins · 01/03/2025 17:22

I just hope he's not just saying what you want to hear, time will tell. Here's to a good nights sleep for you tonight @rubberduck68

MounjaroOnMyMind · 01/03/2025 17:24

It really is a thankless task, sometimes, isn't it!

I'm glad he apologised. He needs to find work - it's no good him thinking he doesn't have to do anything except sleep all day. And she needs to attend lectures and do some studying, too, otherwise she'll leave uni with a degree she can't use.

Let's hope he stays out for the rest of the weekend, OP. Do you have friends you can see tonight?

Isittimeformynapyet · 01/03/2025 17:25

rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 11:21

Because his GF is going with him (the Dad lives hours away from here) and they want to wait until she has finished Uni first. My ex husband has a GF twenty years younger who lives with him who they all find quite annoying, so my guess is they are all going together as a kind of safety in numbers. I don't ask about it too much, but I do know they are planning on paying him rent and I currently get none because my son lost his job a few months ago, but has substantial savings. I know... I know... I am a soft touch. I kind of aim for a quiet life most of the time, but right now I feel really triggered.

Triggered?

Do you mean pissed off?

BettyBardMacDonald · 01/03/2025 17:26

CocoapuffPuff · 01/03/2025 17:14

Hmmm. Well, he's said the "right things" and you know better than any of us how likely he is to stick to them.

I'd still do a bit more to reduce his comfort in Mummy's home. Encourage him to grow the hell up.

Change the password on your wifi, immediately. He doesn't get to use it any more. He can go to GF's flat to use hers or, if he needs it for job applications, go use the free ones in cafes and libraries.

He's forced you to work through your tiredness multiple times yet he's whining about not sleeping when he's not working, so his empathy is seriously lacking. He's not the only person in the world who matters and frankly, taking a massive dump on the person who feeds you and puts a roof over your head is seriously stupid.

No overnight guests in your home unless you invite them yourself. He has forfeited that perk. He wants a special night with his gal, he goes to her place.

Well said, @CocoapuffPuff

Make it less comfortable for him.

At min he should be doing four hours of job seeking and four hours of housework per day. Socializing comes last as it does for most responsible adults.

No more lolling.

If he went to bed at a decent hour & arose early to do something energetic and productive, his sleep troubles soon would disappear.

MeridianB · 01/03/2025 17:31

Well done OP. Now he needs to get up on Monday morning and get a job.

rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 17:31

BettyBardMacDonald · 01/03/2025 17:26

Well said, @CocoapuffPuff

Make it less comfortable for him.

At min he should be doing four hours of job seeking and four hours of housework per day. Socializing comes last as it does for most responsible adults.

No more lolling.

If he went to bed at a decent hour & arose early to do something energetic and productive, his sleep troubles soon would disappear.

Yes, he said he needs to get back into this exercise routine, and is currently negotiating a contract with a company who have been messing him around, but should know by Monday. He usually tells me nothing about work stuff, just that he has some recruitment person looking for him, and he often has online interviews because I can hear them in his room (why do men speak so loudly online!). As has been remarked on here just now, let's hope he sticks to it, and that I don't let him deviate even even a mm... I'm going to have to keep on it, but for now I am just looking forward to an early night and a really, really long, uninterrupted sleep! And yes, I suspect he is stuck between pleasing his GF and his mother, but that is really his problem, and I reckon she is starting to realise who makes the rules in this house, and it is not going to be her!!

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rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 17:33

MounjaroOnMyMind · 01/03/2025 17:24

It really is a thankless task, sometimes, isn't it!

I'm glad he apologised. He needs to find work - it's no good him thinking he doesn't have to do anything except sleep all day. And she needs to attend lectures and do some studying, too, otherwise she'll leave uni with a degree she can't use.

Let's hope he stays out for the rest of the weekend, OP. Do you have friends you can see tonight?

It really is. I hope he gets works soon, and I am going to be much more proactive with sitting on that. Tonight I just want to crawl into bed early and sleep!

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rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 17:33

dapsnotplimsolls · 01/03/2025 17:14

I wonder if someone showed him or his GF this thread!

I do hope so!

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rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 17:34

CocoapuffPuff · 01/03/2025 17:14

Hmmm. Well, he's said the "right things" and you know better than any of us how likely he is to stick to them.

I'd still do a bit more to reduce his comfort in Mummy's home. Encourage him to grow the hell up.

Change the password on your wifi, immediately. He doesn't get to use it any more. He can go to GF's flat to use hers or, if he needs it for job applications, go use the free ones in cafes and libraries.

He's forced you to work through your tiredness multiple times yet he's whining about not sleeping when he's not working, so his empathy is seriously lacking. He's not the only person in the world who matters and frankly, taking a massive dump on the person who feeds you and puts a roof over your head is seriously stupid.

No overnight guests in your home unless you invite them yourself. He has forfeited that perk. He wants a special night with his gal, he goes to her place.

Yeah, I think empathy seems to be really lacking in the early twenty-year-olds. That is I think part of the problem. well, one of the many....

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rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 17:37

BettyBardMacDonald · 01/03/2025 16:34

This is a good text to send.

You need to take control.

The idea that some upstart twit would sit me down and critique me in my own house, where she is a freaking guest, is just unreal!!!

Who the fuck do they think they are?!

Yes, his dad is very arrogant, but my son has never really been before. I think there is something about this relationship that he's in that is changing him a bit, but I guess he has to work that out for himself...

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rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 17:39

BettyBardMacDonald · 01/03/2025 16:30

No!

Not "they" anything. She no longer is welcome at any hour.

The son is behaving like a child, not an adult. Children don't determine the rules of the house.

OP, if he is using his physical size and strength as a means to disobey you, you really need to kick him out.

No, he's quite a gentle soul usually, but he is a big 'un and I look ridiculously small next to him... I know a few friends who try and lecture their tree of a son whilst wishing they had a step ladder!!

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BMW6 · 01/03/2025 17:50

Oh very well done OP! 👏 👏

Avatartar · 01/03/2025 17:53

OP you are allowing them to take the p- -s. Yes they’re physical adults but behaving like out of control toddlers.lay the law down, it’s your house, you pay the bills, they fall in line or they are out. Your son will realise what a twat he’s being in due course. You may loose him in the short term, but lady you are doing him a favour. Neither will get anywhere on their own two feet in life behaving like this

Lentilweaver · 01/03/2025 18:07

Good result.

i think if your son gets a job all will be well. Young people need to be in a routine.

EdithBond · 01/03/2025 18:12

rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 17:04

Well... he came straight back, sat down at the table with me, and was contrite, and disarmingly sensible. I expect he realises that they have both crossed a line. He opened by saying that he's really struggling with sleep, and that this is why he's cooking and seeing his GF in the middle of the night, and he thinks he should stay at hers for sleepovers until this has resolved. I agreed, but said that I thought he should stay there because I am fed up with being woken up, and that I would decide when the new rule should be revisited, and that I thought what happened last night was disrespectful. He agreed and apologised. He has agreed to not cook, receive deliveries, or visitors past 11.00 pm, and that if he is going out he will be out by that time too. I have been clear: one more misstep and we won't be able to cohabit anymore because it's making me so tired that I feel unwell. He apologised again and said that he doesn't want me to feel like that. I said that I will not be having any more conversations led by his GF about whether or not I like her, that me liking her is not the issue, the issue is between me and him, and his disrespect of the house rules, which he agreed with and apologised again.

Thank you all for the support, I really needed it.

He's now gone back to bed!

Really, really pleased to read this @rubberduck68. Well done!

He’s obviously a decent lad and has just let himself slide a bit. Someone said earlier my set up sounded perfect, but I’ve had to set boundaries throughout the years to get them to where they are now. I’ve lost count of the number of times I lost my shit when they were all teenagers.

It’s tough being a lone parent to young men. But if you stay firm, and expect them to pull their weight, you not only end up with respectful sons, you’re doing their future partner a huge favour.

I do hope you get a lovely long sleep tonight.

WisePearlPoet · 01/03/2025 18:33

rubberduck68 · 01/03/2025 14:27

I think what is abundantly clear from his thread is that I have no idea what the hell to do, so yeah, probably doing it all wrong.

I know that feeling and my situation led to me asking son to leave as well as gf. I simply could not cope anymore. Whilst other posters are suggesting loud hoovering rtf to make son get up, it's not about that. If a grown man had any respect for you he would get out of bed and converse. As it is he obviously doesn't which means you have to regain control because you have lost it and he knows it. No amount of conversation is going to rectify this. Action has to be swift and decisive. You've tried the talking. I do understand, it's horrible and alien and isolating but do you really want to live like this?

CocoapuffPuff · 01/03/2025 18:56

OP, I hope you get a lovely long night's sleep and that things really do turn around for you and, of course, your son. If he truly does everything that he's saying, and he's prepared to make the changes needed then I'm sure he'll be fine. I just cannot abide the whining when he's the architect of his own misfortune. Realising that and that HE is the one who needs to change is the first step of growing up, and I truly hope he follows through.

Nobody likes a manchild.

Kitchensinktoday · 01/03/2025 20:55

He should not be slamming doors in your face OP

rubberduck68 · 02/03/2025 08:20

UPDATE: He left the house at 11.00 pm precisely last night (!), even remembered to lock up properly, and spent the night at her house, returning this morning at 08.00 am alone, where he made breakfast and put some laundry on. All is peaceful so far...

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Lentilweaver · 02/03/2025 08:24

Long may it continue...