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To not let MIL babysit

327 replies

loulalole · 28/02/2025 22:17

My in laws are ok people, definitely nothing as dramatic as some of the things I’ve read on here, but we do not get on particularly well. It was more like death by a thousand paper-cuts than one big falling out, so whilst I can give examples of things they’ve done here, each on their own they aren’t too significant. But over years and years of them being like this to me… the relationship just isn’t there anymore.

My husband and I have a 3-year-old daughter, and lately, my in-laws have been pushing hard to babysit her alone, which I am completely against. They see her about once a month, either at our place or theirs, but I’m always present. They, however, seem determined to carve out alone time. At first, it was framed as a treat for us: “Why don’t you two go for lunch? We’ll watch her!” and when I explained that there’s no need, she has a nanny / housekeeper / my helper (I received a very large inheritance early which means that I am lucky enough to afford paid childcare and help around the house, whilst I am a SAHM, my DH is not paying for this) who can look after my daughter perfectly, knows how I want things done and does them to a standard we’re happy with, it turned into “but we want to have a go, we want time alone with her, we are grandparents so we deserve to”.

MIL’s even bigger wish is an overnight stay. But I’ve never left my daughter for a night, and I have zero need or desire to. And honestly, what do they want to do with her that they can’t do while we’re there? On top of that, I don’t trust them to follow instructions (what to feed her, when to sleep, what not to give her, what she’s allowed to do and what she isn’t) and really don’t see the need.

And just to paint a picture of what they’re like:
1. The first words out of their mouths when we got engaged? “You’re a lucky girl, Lou, aren’t you?”
2. A few days postpartum: “You didn’t have a C-section, did you?! That’s terrible for babies’ lungs.”
3. When we called from the hospital to say I’d just given birth, instead of “Congratulations! How are you feeling?” we got: “We’ll get ready to head over when you get home.” (That assumption locked in my decision: they weren’t visiting for a few days even after we’d got home.)
4. During a rare overnight stay at our house, I asked them to keep things calm before bed. MIL’s response was a breezy “I don’t think that’s necessary!” as she wound my daughter up right before sleep.

Individually, none of these are that bad. But after years of this? I just don’t have it in me to pretend.

OP posts:
ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 01/03/2025 07:22

loulalole · 28/02/2025 22:41

His mum manipulates him quite a lot with crying, and if he ever pulls her up on anything (mum, stop asking Lou why she isn't pregnant, we've explained that we are struggling to conceive), the response is always "oh I'm just curious, I feel so sad being left out of the loop". Or when I spoke back and said "I'd like to keep our sex life private" she burst into tears saying she's being kept at a distance and that's such a rude response.

So his ideal would be to just hand over our daughter to minimise drama. But that would cause drama with me because to me she's not a toy to appease a tantrum with.

She was right, that was a rude and ridiculous response. You're the problem.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 01/03/2025 07:23

Your mil sounds like a pain in the arse.

I don't blame you for keeping your distance.

Bursting into tears when told to mind her own business about your not being pregnant? Manipulative. And the rest.

Just keep going as you are. Your kid. Your family.

I had great relationships with my GPs. Was never left alone with them. Always visited them and did things with them as a family.

Cailin66 · 01/03/2025 07:23

loulalole · 28/02/2025 22:44

Paid help knows what she's doing in the best interests of the child, it's her source of income so she tries to do as good as job as she can to retain that source of income. Grandparents seem to treat her like a toy, for their own entertainment and self esteem

You’re payoff ganother woman to look after your child instead of you doing so. The only one being manipulative is you. Denying your child normal relationships with her relations because you are a control freak. Using your own child as a tool to control both your husband and grandparents. You will regret this.

Strictly1 · 01/03/2025 07:24

loulalole · 28/02/2025 22:44

Paid help knows what she's doing in the best interests of the child, it's her source of income so she tries to do as good as job as she can to retain that source of income. Grandparents seem to treat her like a toy, for their own entertainment and self esteem

Paid help will do as they are told, the in-laws don’t do as I dictate.

You don’t like them and stopping them building a loving relationship is your way of punishing them. I had a wonderful relationship with my grandparents but you are depriving your daughter of this for your own gain. Very sad.

zerored · 01/03/2025 07:25

Yanbu

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/03/2025 07:26

They don’t sound as if dd May be in danger if left alone for an hour or two so really don’t understand why you wouldn’t allow this

GP are there to love and spoil their gc - a bit of tv or sugar isn’t the end of the world if that’s all you are worried about

shes 3 now so even if naps maybe 1-3 why not allow them to have her 10-12 if you don’t trust them to feed her what you think is right

you are denying your child the fun they can have with their gp and denying dh parents fun as gp

im guessing your parents are dead if had a large inheritance (sorry for your loss) but do find it weird happy for a nanny paid to look after dd but not dh parents who raised him

did he have a nice childhood ?

unclench a little

Mere1 · 01/03/2025 07:28

Motheranddaughter · 28/02/2025 22:32

What does your DH think

Very good point.

bigvig · 01/03/2025 07:29

Redmat · 28/02/2025 22:47

You don't seem to understand normal family relationships.

This! Sorry OP but you sound hard work, extremely touchy and controlling. Of course it's valuable fir grandparents to be able to develop a relationship with their grandchildren (as long as there is no abuse which there isn't here). Of course it's different having you there rather than having alone time. Your DH should also get to decide not just you.

CoffeeGood · 01/03/2025 07:29

But, but, but, the very job description of grandparents is to spoil their beloved grandchild! The rules at Nana's house are always different to those at home, sweets, TV, making a mess "helping" to bake cakes and staying up late are par for the course! With mum and dad raising their eyebrows slightly with a resigned smile when the child comes home buzzing! It's lovely, it's fun, it's how it should be. Isn't it? I shall be sad to hear if it's supposed to be exactly like at home with the same boring food and routine!

Unless your MIL is going to do something dangerous with your child, you are being very unreasonable. Your child's relationship with their grandparents is very different to yours.

MamaBanana12 · 01/03/2025 07:30

Honestly this makes me so sad. My relationship with my grandparents was/is my highlight of my childhood.

I was excited every weekend that I went to stay. And my kids now are the same with their grandparents (on both sides). It's a different relationship. And I wouldn't ever say it's babysitting.

I know not everyone has that type of relationship and that's fine, but your PIL sound like they would like a closer bond with their granddaughter.

rwalker · 01/03/2025 07:30

So sad it’s all about you
you clearly don’t like them so weaponise your child by depriving them of a relationship with each other

some of my happiest memories are with my grandparents

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 01/03/2025 07:31

Mere1 · 01/03/2025 07:28

Very good point.

I doubt he's allowed to have opinions of his own.

bigboykitty · 01/03/2025 07:33

The MILS on this thread are doing a really excellent job of showing exactly how toxic MIL energy is an issue in so many women's lives and relationships.

cheseandme · 01/03/2025 07:34

bunnypenny · 28/02/2025 22:42

why is it more beneficial for your child to have alone time with paid help than their own grandparents?

This?!!
You are depriving your child of having a special relationship with her grandparents.
My granddaughter is in bed with me reading stories as I type.
She is now 5 but has had a sleepover here regularly since age of 1.
Fantastic relationship and she feels loved and safe here.

Pottedpalm · 01/03/2025 07:37

ParrotParty · 28/02/2025 22:34

Probably can't relax or feel comfortable being themselves under your scrutiny. Let your DD have a normal relationship with her family, she's an individual not an extension of you.

This. I get on well with my DiL but she never takes her eyes off DGS so every move is scrutinised. It’s hard to relax. I try to do everything her way, she is an excellent mother in my opinion.

Littlemisscapable · 01/03/2025 07:38

TheAlertFinch · 28/02/2025 22:40

They are your childs grandparents not just the inlaws, Spending time with them is much more important than spending time with your hired help.

This. Stop fussing

MyDeftDuck · 01/03/2025 07:41

"...........we are grandparents so we deserve to”. This was the deal-breaker for me! I am a grandparent and I have never assumed that I 'deserve' anything in terms of my grandkids - other than respect of course. Yes, I have looked after mine overnight, when I was asked to; I certainly didn't beg.
Having grandchildren in your life is a privilege, not a given right.
PIL's need to back right off or lose their grandchild altogether.

PeppyLemonPombear · 01/03/2025 07:41

First up. I'm a mum of a 3 year old. My mum and MIL both enjoy time alone with their grandchild and both have 'their way' of doing things (which wouldn't necessarily be the same as mine).

I find this all quite sad. You seem unable to see your MIL as your daughter's grandmother, only your husband's (inconvenient) mum.

Don't get me wrong, she sounds hard work but (kindly) so do you. So what if she does things a little differently to you? As long as your daughter isn't going to come to any harm surely the benefits of your daughter having a good bond with her grandparents outweigh any caused by a bit too much TV or sugar once a month.

Fair enough if you're not ready for overnights but to insist on being present for all visits seems a bit much to me if there are no safeguarding issues.

Mere1 · 01/03/2025 07:44

cheseandme · 01/03/2025 07:34

This?!!
You are depriving your child of having a special relationship with her grandparents.
My granddaughter is in bed with me reading stories as I type.
She is now 5 but has had a sleepover here regularly since age of 1.
Fantastic relationship and she feels loved and safe here.

I totally agree.

Redmat · 01/03/2025 07:46

Oh I thought we were trying to show how much we love our grandchildren and how very important and special they and their parents ( our xhildren) are in our lives. And how much we can offer to theirs.

Pottedpalm · 01/03/2025 07:46

MincePiesAndStilton · 01/03/2025 07:21

My MIL is exactly like this - though has also done some horrendous things. It’s the manipulation and crocodile tears that mean she will never get to spend time on her own with my DC. I’ve seen how she gaslights her son, so she won’t get to gaslight my DC. I don’t think you’re unreasonable in the slightest. Find your own little clever ways to make her feel involved without doing anything you’re uncomfortable with. And agree on no overnight stays - my DC doesn’t stay with anyone other than my parents.

So.. manipulate your MiL?
Your last sentence says it all,

Fimofriend · 01/03/2025 07:48

Britishsummertime22 · 28/02/2025 22:53

Yabu and sound like a difficult daughter on law. I feel for your parents in law, I really do. They just want some quality time with their granddaughter, it isn't much to ask.

Difficult? Because she won't be a doormat?

There have been countless examples of kids getting hurt or parental alienation when the grandchildren have visited the kind of grandparents who don't like one of the parents and/or who only want the grandchildren to visit to show their friends.

What if grandma gets to have the child for and overnight visit, riles up the child just before bed and the child gets too excited? Will the grandma then spank the child? Will the child get punished for missing her parents? For crying? For any reason?

Considering the kind of crap the MIL is comfortable saying to OP's face, what kind of things will she say to the child when the parents are not there?

What if MIL gets bored? Will the child then just be locked alone in a room without toys or the ability to use a loo?

People don't suddenly become nice, dependable people just because they become grandparents .Assholes will still be assholes and should be kept away from children.

Bundleflower · 01/03/2025 07:48

It’s all ‘you, you, you’ isn’t it?

You’re scraping around for extremely minor reasons to rob your child’s chance of wonderful memories being spoilt by her grandparents. You don’t seem to understand how a family can/should operate and think your paid help takes priority.

Really sad and if I was your DH I’d consider leaving over you lording it about and forcing my family out.

fungibletoken · 01/03/2025 07:48

Not all relationships are the same. Not all family dynamics are the same.

Lots of posters (grandparents?) saying "as long as they aren't dangerous or abusive it's fine!", or "I've got such a special relationship with my DGC, don't deprive them or that". But there's a huge spectrum of permutations in between "abusive/dangerous" and "idyllic/special", many of which are not automatically a positive, healthy thing for all involved.

LovelyLeitrim · 01/03/2025 07:50

bigboykitty · 01/03/2025 07:33

The MILS on this thread are doing a really excellent job of showing exactly how toxic MIL energy is an issue in so many women's lives and relationships.

Thank goodness the “MILS” are calling the controlling OP out, she’s disappeared now, probably giving the hired help their instructions for the day. The hired help is completing a job, the DGP would be looking after the DD with love.

Imagine that….. love from a doting GP, yet it’s twisted by some.