Anyone cancelling their trips/holidays to USA

[Petuniaspetal]

Have to be honest since trump won i wasn't going anyway. But anyone cancelling or going elsewhere?
I have a big birthday this year, I would go to the garbage dump rather than support America,/musk in any way. I know therwmis at least half of America that doesn't.support this shxt and for them I am sorry but for the republicans too spineless and self interested to resist their dictator.trump...not one iota of sympathy for the rising prices loss of Medicaid or medicare.

YABU ..to cancel/Not go
YANBU...wouldn't touch it with a bargepole

Your household income must be over 150k then, more if you have children. How much tax do you think is reasonable to pay on that amount?

Fair share my ass. It is financial abuse these days,

I haven't.. are you trying to say I should boycott anything american?

Let’s start by acknowledging that some are just making up lies and some have not even visited the US ever. In their dreams they have been.

I wonder where the boycotts would go as some countries in Europe dislike British so very much. To the point or protests and hoping they do not go to their sunny islands and worse that they do not buy properties there. 😂

To those who say they wouldn’t go - do you examine the morals and policies of the leaders of every country you visit?

As I said, it isn’t just Trump, it’s the MAGA bigotry that runs through the US. Also the oppression of women and control by men of their bodies. It’s the American exceptionalism (we’re the greatest country in the world, we are the most free country in the world etc, etc). The latter deluded stuff was always there of course, but throwing Trump and his fall out into that makes America obnoxious.

To your other question, yes, I do consider the politics of every country I visit. I will no longer visit UAE, despite their efforts to drum up tourism, it would be a cold day in hell before I would visit Saudi. Whilst Rajapaksa was in power, I would not visit Shri Lanka and there are others. I am not willing to put my tourists money into countries with disgusting regimes. Some of us have principles.

Whether people want to protest by not visiting the US and cancelling trips, that is upto them to justify it.

Will I? Nope. I'll be moving to the US and the return of Trump doesn't change my mind in the same way that Biden being in didn't influence it either.
Regardless of political standing or who's in, there are many amazing places to visit.

I was not a fan of our previous government's or our current one. However that wouldn't stop me recommending the UK as a nice place to visit for my in-laws/extended family and Friends I have in other countries. There are beautiful places here.

We've got one life on this earth so I'd rather make the most of being able to visit and see as many places as possible.

For me, it’s not about the policies or morals of leaders that determines whether I would or would not go somewhere. For me it’s the overall system of government. I’m happy to spend money in democracies with leaders and policies that I object strongly to. I would not have ruled out the USA on political grounds during Trump’s last term. This time feels different though. Since then he has tried to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power and incited an insurrection. He’s also launched an assault on the US democratic system, attempting to override statute law and even constitutional amendments through executive orders and undermining congressional oversight and confirmations. It’s a worrying time for US democracy.

I would also not visit most of the Middle East, China, Venezuela, Vietnam, Cuba etc. I visited Hong Kong before the national security laws, but would not go back now. I don’t judge anyone who makes different choices, but I do personally consider the political system of any country I visit.

i boycotted South Africa in the 70s and 80s, despite being half South African. The regime there - and the fundamental attitudes of so many South Africans that the regime represented - disgusted me so couldn’t bring myself to have anything to do with it. The utter contempt I feel for America and all things American now is the same. It has grown over the many years of untrammelled school shootings, racist murders, oppression of women, abuse of the poor, greed and bullying that have found their full expression in Trump, Vance and Musk. These things are America, not the pretty scenery or the superficially nice people you meet there (and I’ve spent a lot of time there over the years).

My uncle comes from France and he was rude to my best friend. So I will no longer go to France and my uncle is banned from family events we host. This is a very mature way to act as I am standing up for my best friend even though my uncle was always nice to me.

yes, we’ve moved flights and accommodation to Canada.🇨🇦

And yes, we do avoid other countries for moral reasons.

Because it clear that many Americans have the mortals of an alley cat and care only about money. If they start to feel economic consequences perhaps they can be persuaded to not side with a dictator intent on destroying European countries…

Well done 👏. Whereabouts in Canada? We live in Montreal although currently visiting Vancouver Island.

Do people still use travel agents and tour operators?

spot on!

That would be a good start.

Do you want me to give up my job…and the other 1.5 million people in the UK that work for US companies?

Not sure - maybe?

Agree one hundred percent!

Well no, my DD definitely doesn’t want to go anymore. Her and most of her friends are enlightened enough to not feel good about it. We have been there before and we have had some great times there and hopefully there will come a time again when this moron and his puppets are gone so we can go again. We’re looking at Tokyo instead now.

I hardly think that "forcing" someone to go on a lovely holiday is some terrible thing! 😂 Since they'd already booked it, they must have wanted to go.

Look, bottom line, people do what they want to do. If the PP had really wanted to go to NYC, the family still would have gone. I suspect the PP would rather have saved the money than gone, and took the opportunity to do so. We all like to pretend we're so virtuous, but if someone really wanted to go to NYC, Trump being president wouldn't stop them. Like the fact that there are plenty of homeless children and there is a carbon budget that needs reducing does not stop people having their own kids. The common point between the cancellation of holidays and having your own kids is that people do whatever they want, mostly regardless of the common good. I suspect most people on here saying that they wouldn't go to the States or are cancelling either didn't want to go anyway, couldn't afford it, or are liking the idea of getting their money back and going somewhere cheaper.

Really? Do you know how badly the Japanese treat women? And there are terrible human rights issues there. When prisoners are executed, they're given virtually no notice and so have no opportunity to fight it. Whereas some states in the US have the death penalty, prisoners spend years on Death Row fighting it. They have rights. If your holiday choice is dictated by a country's politics, swapping the US for Japan is a weird choice. And NY state doesn't even have the death penalty.

Your DD is going to read about Japan and feel even worse about going there than the US! (Because she'll presumably read up on it, having a strong social conscience that led her to reject NY.)

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2023/country-chapters/japan

Precis:

Japan's laws don't prohibit discrimination based on race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or gender identity

Japan's asylum and refugee system rarely grants refugee status

Japan's justice system detains criminal suspects for long periods to force confessions

Japan's psychiatric industry uses arbitrary detention and physical restraints

Japan's government supports the expansion of fossil fuels, which contributes to climate change

There are barriers to accessing reproductive health services

There are crimes against members of national/racial/ethnic minority groups

There are crimes against LGBTQ+ people

There are crimes against people with disabilities

I regard my safety, wellbeing and comfort too highly to waste my precious time and money visiting a country I'd feel uncomfortable in.

By intentionally taking advantage of a situation for profit, do you mean by being democratically elected as President? The American people are rightly asking why billions of dollars are going to Ukraine when America goes deeper into debt.

because you harping on about Trump being in it for the money is incredibly disingenuous when this war has made so many others rich and not just the industries around war. Is this the first time you’ve spoken up about people profiting from this war or just because Trump = bad?