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To want to help Ukraine- is there ANYTHING we can do????

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Helpforthosethatneedit · 28/02/2025 20:23

I am just so sad watching Zelensky. He's had his country invaded by Russia, fought for survival and now he's got Trump and Vance gaslighting him. Mumsnet, there's posts every day on here about this sort of behaviour, but usually it is happening in playgrounds. Wonderful advice is given. But this is not a playground. This is the world. How can we/ the little people help? I feel so so helpless. Please give ideas? Can we do something to support Ukraine and potentially change the future?

Aibu?

Yes- frankly, we, the little people have nothing we can do to help.
No- We need to fight to help Ukraine and keep Europe safe (and here's my idea....)

OP posts:
spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:20

@PandoraSox well that's what everyone would like to know but mustn't dare ask because you are obviously a Russian bot if you do question it.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 28/02/2025 22:24

Ponoka7 · 28/02/2025 20:51

There's many of us who think that time will tell that Zelensky was an absolute fraud. It's fine to question the loss of life. It's fine to question Zelensky's motivation. Read the testimonies of the men, facing conscription in the Ukraine, who don't want this war.

Based on what evidence? I've met plenty of Ukranian women and young people here in the uk who don't agree with you. However the Ukrainian men here in the UK? Who knows? They refuse to even learn English. Despite being apparently professionally qualified.

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 22:24

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:20

@PandoraSox well that's what everyone would like to know but mustn't dare ask because you are obviously a Russian bot if you do question it.

You seem to be suggesting it wasn't spent how it should have been, so presumably you have some solid reasoning for that? I'd genuinely like to hear that reasoning.

Munnygirl · 28/02/2025 22:25

DutchEmerald · 28/02/2025 21:21

This.
He's a total self agrandising dictator who has got very rich from all of this.

How?

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 22:26

maddening · 28/02/2025 22:18

Did it all get to Ukraine?

Is there any reason you think that it didn't? Where else might it have gone in your view?

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 28/02/2025 22:27

We can do something. Boycott the US. So everyone said what will a boycott do when Trump put tariffs on Canada? Well Canadians responded. We put a dent in their tourism revenue by 400million dollars. We took American alcohol off our shelves - to the tune of a billion dollars in sales year year.

Boycott American goods. There are many websites which can help.

Stop travelling to the US. There are other places to go and you are effectively supporting a dictator.

Sigh a petition.

Write to your MP.

The UK is capitulating. Think about this - we have offered a state visit to a man who wants to take over a sovereign commonwealth country whose head of state is THE KING. Why are we rewarding this behaviour?

I stand with Ukraine.

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:27

@PandoraSox the solid reasoning is he's still out begging for more and not winning. In two years he's had nearly £100 billion from America alone. You cannot tell me that's not enough money and that's without handouts from everyone else.

blueshoes · 28/02/2025 22:28

For every Russian-bot post, I will donate more to Ukraine military. They will make a mint out of this thread.

LifeExperience · 28/02/2025 22:31

Beekeepingmum · 28/02/2025 21:00

We need to give them back their nuclear weapons now that the security guarantee they received to get rid of them has gone.

Ukraine never had the launch codes, not even when they were a Soviet satellite, so the weapons were useless to them.

Silverfoxlady · 28/02/2025 22:36

Just added my signature. What an awful man.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 28/02/2025 22:36

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 21:10

Would you be willing to fight yourself or send your family members?

Well thank goodness all those Allied countries didn’t have the same response during WW2. Especially ones with no skin in the game so to speak - Canada. Australia. New Zealand and even the US.

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 22:36

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:27

@PandoraSox the solid reasoning is he's still out begging for more and not winning. In two years he's had nearly £100 billion from America alone. You cannot tell me that's not enough money and that's without handouts from everyone else.

How much has Russia spent to not win the war so far? War is expensive!

madamweb · 28/02/2025 22:39

Boycott X and Tesla, boycott Amazon (bezos has just trashed the Washington post), boycott facebook/meta.

Oh and be wary of anyone who claims Ukrainians all want to capitulate and be shared between Russia a and the US. They are a proud nation. They want peace but not to be carved up by Trump and Putin.

BeardofHagrid · 28/02/2025 22:40

I think it’s cruel to call Zelenskyy a little person, op. On top of everything else he’s going through today.

We should start donating to Ukraine again. Taking evacuees into our homes. Paying the wages of their public sector etc.

maddening · 28/02/2025 22:42

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 22:26

Is there any reason you think that it didn't? Where else might it have gone in your view?

I think both sides need to prove it before throwing accusations

UnderHisEeyore · 28/02/2025 22:43

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:27

@PandoraSox the solid reasoning is he's still out begging for more and not winning. In two years he's had nearly £100 billion from America alone. You cannot tell me that's not enough money and that's without handouts from everyone else.

Oh yeah, every winning side needs to ship in starving conscripts from another dictatorship to help...WINNING!

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:44

@Rainingalldayonmyhead I've lost a family member in Afghanistan and I wouldn't wish it on anyone so excuse me for not throwing myself or my family on the frontline but we've lost enough for pointless wars that politicians and their children never fight in. I'm extremely anti war and I would protest again if it came to it, not that Blair listened last time.

PandoraSox · 28/02/2025 22:45

maddening · 28/02/2025 22:42

I think both sides need to prove it before throwing accusations

You are the one insinuating that the money has been funnelled off!

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 28/02/2025 22:45

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:44

@Rainingalldayonmyhead I've lost a family member in Afghanistan and I wouldn't wish it on anyone so excuse me for not throwing myself or my family on the frontline but we've lost enough for pointless wars that politicians and their children never fight in. I'm extremely anti war and I would protest again if it came to it, not that Blair listened last time.

I completely understand and I can’t even imagine the pain and heartache you and your family have gone through. You have my deepest sympathies.

OneLemonDog · 28/02/2025 22:52

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:08

@PandoraSox spend the billions they've been given on defence. It wasn't so long ago that the media were reporting that Russia suffered huge losses and were using old tanks and artillery but yet Ukraine still haven't come close to pushing them back despite all the money they've had. It does make you believe if the media reports about Russia are true but then you get called a conspiracy theorist for questioning anything.

They haven't been given "billions" to spend. They have been given a mixture of equipment and funds, and the funds are in a UN-managed trust - it isn't for Ukraine to freely spend.

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:53

@OneLemonDog and they still can't beat Russia with its old tanks.

UnderHisEeyore · 28/02/2025 22:55

spuddy4 · 28/02/2025 22:53

@OneLemonDog and they still can't beat Russia with its old tanks.

Not if we keep restricting what they are and are not allowed to use or do with limited choices of weapons we allow them to have...
Not as if Russia is doing as well as expected, as I say, having to ship in reinforcements and still can't win.

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What evidence do you have of his drug addiction?

Talking about grifters, how did Putin become so rich?

OneLemonDog · 28/02/2025 23:07

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"Don't be so stupid..." [proceeds to be stupid]"

For anyone curious:

https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20220428-debunked-claims-volodymyr-zelensky-ukraine-cocaine

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