Woman 19 dies in dog attack

[Matrixremooted]

Woman 19 dies in dog attack in Bristol

Apologies if there’s already a thread on this, but how many more lives have to be taken in these horrific attacks before the Government admit that the current measures are failing. It surely has come to the point now that all XL Bullies should be euthanised.

"I do feel so sad for the dog owner," she said.
"She did mention the dog wasn't great with men, fine with women and children.
"I feel for her so, so much. It wasn't her fault."
She added: "I genuinely feel that this was one of those freak accidents and wasn't her fault - that's how I feel."

Disgusting creatures. Of course it’s the owners fault for owning such a vile animal they obviously could not control. Wolves aren’t allowed in residential homes are they. What is the actual point of these horrendous dogs? There isn’t one.

Thank you! People who haven't read this definitely should, and I'm about to post it on FB for the couple of 'it the owner not the dog!' idiots I've seen.

Do you report the owners to the Police every time you see them with an unmuzzled dog ?

I think it is pathetic that laws have been passed but are not being upheld by the police. What is the point then?
XLs out without muzzles or off lead are not being followed up when reported, nor even when police themselves see them.
All dogs must be microchipped by law already so can be checked for being unlicenced every time they see a vet, or even in the street by police. Illegal newly breds should not be difficult to catch and deal with once they grow.

There just doesn't seem to be the will to enforce the law amongst those whose entire purpose is to enforce the law.

It is not only the dogs that need euthanising , the bloody idiotic owners need it as well.

I think your use of language about these dogs is sad. How they look, and how they act, is not their fault. It is the fault of humans. Humans are the ones that have condemned these dogs to restrictions, and howls of a death sentence from MNetters.
I don't think any dog is disgusting, vile, or horrendous. XL bullys have been let down by people. People created them.

The feeling I have is that dogs and dog ownership is sacred in the UK. Therefore dogs are revered more than human lives.

Im a dog lover, I have one of my own and I work with dogs 7 days a week.

XL bullies are not pets and the time has come to euthanise them all. It absolutely is the breed. They are dead behind the eyes, awful animals that have one purpose which is to kill.

Problem is, with all the XL bullies gone, idiots will look for the next breed of choice and this is slowly seeming like the Cane Corso. If we ban them - they will look for the next one.

what we need now is tough laws regarding dog ownership with a “restricted breeds” list. This should include every big dog with guarding history such as Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Dobermanns, ALL bully breeds over a certain weight, mastiffs … these breeds would not be banned but strictly regulated requiring a license and registration. And not everyone will be eligible for this license. We don’t want idiots in possession of potentially dangerous dogs.

And I say all this as a dobermann owner (who was guarding the house growling at the back gate from the age of 4 months). He was never trained to guard, but he’s a dobermann. It absolutely IS the breed.

Until they're not. Most dogs are good until they're not. The young woman who sadly died today may well have said yesterday her dog was good.

A large dog ( and I'm a previous large dog owner) who let's loose can be very hard to control if attacked by/or attacking, another dog.

I once had to try and separate a small medium sized dog from a very small dog, it had latched its jaws around its throat. The owner of the attacking dog was nowhere to be seen. The owner of the small dog was utterly traumatised, as was the small dog, it did survive but was never the same again. There were 10 people around me and despite various tactics couldn't get the dogs separated, I can't even remember how they separated in the end. I now know what to try but then I had no idea, hosed water up the dogs face, pulled its hind legs, it was nightmarish and that was a relatively small dog. I was very aware it could have turned its attention onto me.

My own dog is drawn to small children he is a smallish terrier and has a high prey drive, I don't think he would bite as in anger but children are loud, excitable and move quickly, all his triggers , so my dog is on leash if children are around. Im coastal so i can see well ahead if anyone is coming in my direction. Even him jumping around them would be too much. I have a harness with a handle on the back to catch him if needs be too. I wouldn't have an xl bully anywhere near me or my dog, never mind a child.

As hideous as it would be to put them to sleep these dogs should not be among the general public ever.

What a horrible, horrible way to die

Dog owner all my life. I leave an area if an XL, cane corso or any of the other 'wouldn't hurt a fly" lovable babies arrive. 🫤 I swear the owners love the impact their dogs have. Irresponsible idiots

Is that the impression you get from this thread?

To some extent I agree, but I would put money on a majority of the general public feeling as many of us do, that these particular animals should be euthanised.

The governnment don't have the balls to do what is needed, which is to order the police to shoot all dangerous dogs on sight. There is no other option.

They already do that.

They suddenly snap with no warning because it's what they're trained for. If you're breeding dogs to fight each other you don't want a dog that displays warning signs to the other dog. Hence the sudden shift. I've seen videos of them and they are just fixated. There can be a whole group of people but they will hunt down one particular person.
It's the same issue with pitbulls in America. Also there you'll see people saying that they've registered their dog as a lab-mix or a rottie mix as lots of apartments have banned them. Then if there's an attack it isn't attributed to pitbulls. It does seem to be a saviour complex and some of the people who love them can be terrible on posts about attacks.
I've seen Facebook posts where children have been attacked/killed and some of the comments are 'well what did the child do to trigger them?'. 'why do they have to name the breed?'. Or 'mine would never'. And a lot saying how chihuahuas are more vicious and bite more...yet how many kill people?

This seems to be happening a lot and the government need to do something about it. That poor girl, what a terrifying way to die.

Perhaps we all need to write to our MP’s?

This dog wasn't out in public, though, when it killed this young woman.

It's time to take a hard line on this!

I hope the owners go to prison.

So why are so many people being killed by dangerous dogs?

Because they wont be shot until they are an actual threat. Or are you saying that an innocent dog out on a walk should be taken out by armed police?

Because the victims are usually dead by the time suitably armed police arrive on scene.

😂😂

Maybe he should start a petition for XL bullies to be used by the police instead of GSDs...you know, since they're so lovely and everything.

I can't figure out how to add a photo here but for anyone reading who is still, even now, 'iTs tHe oWneR NoT tHe bReeD" please Google imagine search Killer Kimbo.
"UKC’s Most Wanted Kimbo, was bred by Gustavo Castro. This dog is severely inbred, with a coefficient of inbreeding of 31.3% — the same great grandfather appears four times.
Kimbo was born from a brother-sister pairing, and his grandparents shared the same father. He was deliberately inbred to promote a large, muscular frame. There were rumors that Kimbo’s papers were forged—a practice not uncommon in Bully breeding—potentially indicating an even higher COI"

Please also read this very insightful article and specifically the part about a dog named Nico, although know it is a tough read:

https://banthebullyxluk.wordpress.com/2023/08/01/finding-kimbo/

For all those 'dog lovers' - Bullies are also responsible for over 70% of deaths in the UK ON OTHER DOGS.

So if you won't protect kids from them, will you at least consider protecting other dogs?

I'd hand in my warrant card and retire with my springer in tow.

Yes, dogs that have been deemed too dangerous to be legally allowed out in public with a muzzle shouldn't be allowed in homes where children live. Exemption certificates should not be given to those owners, they should have to give up the dog.

Good call @Matrixremooted

Can we do the same with the dickwad "oh my fwuffy wuffy ickle prince wouldn't do anything like that" (until he does) owners too?