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Matrixremooted · 2025-02-27T14:10:50+00:00

[[https://news.sky.com/story/woman-19-dies-in-dog-attack-in-bristol-two-people-arrested-13318074 Woman 19 dies in dog attack in Bristol]] Apologies if there’s already a thread on this, but how many more lives have to be taken in these horrific attacks before the Government admit that the current measures are failing. It surely has come to the point now that all XL Bullies should be euthanised.

WorkingDay · 27/02/2025 17:27

It’s crazy. In the UK in 2025, we have people being killed by animals. This never used to be the case, outside of people working in zoos perhaps. What an appalling way to die.

People’s behaviour is getting worse in general I think, with more focus on the rights of the individual rather than a sense of responsibility to the community. Keeping these kind of dogs is just another example.

subfertilepcos · 27/02/2025 17:27

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 27/02/2025 17:25

Did they lock it well away? (Although how secure that would be, I wouldn't like to depend on ...)

What would be the management position if you refused?

I would actually think that this kind of circumstance when you're treating someone who is going to be stressed and in pain must surely be very dangerous with any protective breed in the house.

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I would have been terrified as a stranger attending a birth in those circumstances as the dog may have seen you as a threat to its owner if they are screaming in pain etc ? She should have been refused a home birth

SidekickSylvia · 27/02/2025 17:27

UrsulasHerbBag · 27/02/2025 17:13

They are frightening animals and they should be banned. Not only are we reading about yet another vicious terrifying attack resulting in death there are countless other dogs and cats killed by these monsters that are not hitting the news. Imagine walking your daft old spaniel in your local area and him being ripped apart on front of your eyes. Bloody awful.

I'm glad you've mentioned that, as one of my fears is encountering an XL Bully while my spaniel is off lead. He would definitely approach it all waggy tail and sniffs, completely oblivious to the danger. I wonder how many beloved pet dogs and cats have been killed by them.

Regarding the new laws; I saw one in town last week and she was muzzled, on a short lead and had a large, strong looking man holding her back from attacking a passing terrier (also on a lead). I was in a glass fronted shop and looked out at the commotion and was glad her owner was following the guidelines, but she looked as though she had very recently had puppies.

YourAvidAnt · 27/02/2025 17:30

Stresshead84x · 27/02/2025 17:19

I read something a while ago about how the issue with them is similar to cocker spaniel rage syndrome (although a lot worse because cocker spaniels are small dogs) and thats why people will say they are the nicest dog in the world until suddenly they aren't- and unfortunately once they turn there's nothing you can do about it. It all goes back to a small number of dogs in america who were massively inbred due to their size/temperament and then that bloodline was introduced here.

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Yes you are absolutely right. For anyone who thinks it’s the owner and not the breed google ‘Kimbo the XL Bully’ and then tell me it’s not the breed.

YesHonestly · 27/02/2025 17:30

greyeyedwonder · 27/02/2025 14:31

My friend is a XL bully owner, her DH is a police dog trainer. In the right hands these dogs are no different to any other large breed. Yeah I know not all are owned by people with his experience and capabilities. He's a much loved, well behaved family pet and very affectionate dog who tends to drool on you a lot.

This is absolute bullshit and I’m sick of hearing it.

XL bullies have genetic traits that make them unpredictable. They have a high pain threshold, they refuse to give up in fight, they are unpredictably aggressive. They are all lovely until they’re not.

I’m sure there are many terrible Labrador owners, but I’m not reading about scores of labs fatally attacking people.

I am a dog lover, I always have been, but these dogs are not safe and they need to be culled.

Justgorgeous · 27/02/2025 17:32

greyeyedwonder · 27/02/2025 14:31

My friend is a XL bully owner, her DH is a police dog trainer. In the right hands these dogs are no different to any other large breed. Yeah I know not all are owned by people with his experience and capabilities. He's a much loved, well behaved family pet and very affectionate dog who tends to drool on you a lot.

i don’t know how you can write such complete nonsense.

DelectableMe · 27/02/2025 17:39

YesHonestly · 27/02/2025 17:30

This is absolute bullshit and I’m sick of hearing it.

XL bullies have genetic traits that make them unpredictable. They have a high pain threshold, they refuse to give up in fight, they are unpredictably aggressive. They are all lovely until they’re not.

I’m sure there are many terrible Labrador owners, but I’m not reading about scores of labs fatally attacking people.

I am a dog lover, I always have been, but these dogs are not safe and they need to be culled.

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This ⬆️. Thank you.
I'm sick of hearing this kind of nonsense.

SlightlyJaded · 27/02/2025 17:41

If you were to list the reasons any normal person would get a dog, they would look something like:

Companionship/friendship
To encourage walks and exercise
Affection
Ward off loneliness
Teach kids to love and care for something/someone
Give a rescue a safe/happy home
Work (if on a farm or in a rural setting)

If you list the reasons people choose to get an XL, it's more like
Status symbol
Create fear
Use as living Weapon

I literally cannot get my head around the so-called 'normal' people who are choosing XL Bullies over the hundreds of other breeds that fulfill the usual reasons for wanting a dog.

We are a dog family and I"m afraid I am Team Euthanise

RingoJuice · 27/02/2025 17:43

greyeyedwonder · 27/02/2025 14:31

My friend is a XL bully owner, her DH is a police dog trainer. In the right hands these dogs are no different to any other large breed. Yeah I know not all are owned by people with his experience and capabilities. He's a much loved, well behaved family pet and very affectionate dog who tends to drool on you a lot.

Lot of wrong hands out there … kind of like … the dogs are the problem

Jafferz · 27/02/2025 17:45

greyeyedwonder · 27/02/2025 14:31

My friend is a XL bully owner, her DH is a police dog trainer. In the right hands these dogs are no different to any other large breed. Yeah I know not all are owned by people with his experience and capabilities. He's a much loved, well behaved family pet and very affectionate dog who tends to drool on you a lot.

They all are. Until they kill someone.

LillyPJ · 27/02/2025 17:45

I agree. There are plenty of other sorts of dogs out there - nobody needs an XL Bully. And I've never met a single dog owner who doesn't think their dog is soft and would never bite anybody.

SnoozingFox · 27/02/2025 17:46

Of course they should.

But I can guarantee that the hard of thinking will be along shortly with their nonsense about "it's not the dog it's the owner" or whatabouting chihuahuas and spaniels.

Fact is, a lot of people choose these mutant beasts because they are stupid and deluded and genuinely think they stand a chance if Satan decides to turn on them, or choose them precisely because they want the kudos of a dangerous dog.

thesoundofwildgeese · 27/02/2025 17:47

greyeyedwonder · 27/02/2025 14:31

My friend is a XL bully owner, her DH is a police dog trainer. In the right hands these dogs are no different to any other large breed. Yeah I know not all are owned by people with his experience and capabilities. He's a much loved, well behaved family pet and very affectionate dog who tends to drool on you a lot.

Knowing what they are capable of why would your friend and her police dog trainer husband want to keep one?

I could not remain friends with anyone who who kept one.

LillyPJ · 27/02/2025 17:48

greyeyedwonder · 27/02/2025 14:31

My friend is a XL bully owner, her DH is a police dog trainer. In the right hands these dogs are no different to any other large breed. Yeah I know not all are owned by people with his experience and capabilities. He's a much loved, well behaved family pet and very affectionate dog who tends to drool on you a lot.

I'm sure he's well behaved and well trained. But he's still an animal and, given the right circumstances, he could be lethal.

LillyPJ · 27/02/2025 17:51

Ohmydaisy · 27/02/2025 15:40

I would have been firmly in the ' it's the way they are brought up' team a few years ago until our pet Taz turned on my daughter and bit her face. We had him as a 8wk old pup (they weren't kept until 12 wks back then, most pups went at 8wks) we are far from an aggressive family and he was brought up with love not to be rough in anyway. He was a lovely gentle boy ..... until that day when for no reason( I was in the room so know there was no reason) he turned on my 14yr old daughter and bit her face. She had to have plastic surgery and has had a fear of dogs since, understandably. I do think it's so hard for owners who's dogs haven't done anything yet...but it's really not worth the risk . The evidence has become overwhelming.

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Thank you! It would be good to hear that other dog owners read this and realize that their pet could also be unpredictable and hurt someone. Unfortunately, they never seem to believe it about their own pet until it's too late.

bombastix · 27/02/2025 17:54

SnoozingFox · 27/02/2025 17:46

Of course they should.

But I can guarantee that the hard of thinking will be along shortly with their nonsense about "it's not the dog it's the owner" or whatabouting chihuahuas and spaniels.

Fact is, a lot of people choose these mutant beasts because they are stupid and deluded and genuinely think they stand a chance if Satan decides to turn on them, or choose them precisely because they want the kudos of a dangerous dog.

It is all about ego. I am a good person ergo my dog is good.

Really. We should be much less forgiving about people who own them. They don't care about anyone's safety but their own ego.

Simonjt · 27/02/2025 17:54

Supsupsup · 27/02/2025 16:23

Of course ,once this breed is banned, the people who want to look hard or have dogs to protect them whilst they go about their drug dealing or other criminal activity will latch onto another breed they can train to be aggressive…it doesn’t mean society can’t put in measures to limit certain breeds as it’s often innocent people who get killed or maimed in the cross fire. Perhaps the government may eventually reintroduce dog licensing then they can focus on taking dogs away from crappy owners.

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They already seem to be, where my mum lives the dog of choice for irresponsible owners is now belgian malinois

JoyousEagle · 27/02/2025 17:57

I don't think you can be a good XLB owner. To begin with, you've chosen to obtain one.

I agree.

Reminds me of a scene in The Thin Blue Line (early 90s) with Rowan Atkinson playing a police officer, and he has to approve gun licences. And the inspector isn't happy that he hasn't approved any and says something like "it's your job to ask questions to assess whether someone is suitable to own a gun"
Rowan Atkinson "yes, and the first question is, does that person want a gun"
Inspector "well obviously they do"
RA "well then they are exactly the sort of person who should not own one"

Sportacus17 · 27/02/2025 17:57

I agree there should be an instant cull and huge fines for anyone found harbouring one.

Disturbia81 · 27/02/2025 17:59

As a dog lover, I think they should be culled. The dog will know nothing different, just going to sleep.

butterpuffed · 27/02/2025 18:05

In the right hands these dogs are no different to any other large breed.

Bollocks . Plenty of other breeds of dog may not be in the right hands but they don't kill and injure people .

POSTC123 · 27/02/2025 18:05

Yanbu

NewPapaGuinea · 27/02/2025 18:06

Replace “dog” with “car” and see if people would agree. I think Bully XL’s should be banned (or have a special licence to own one like you would a gun) the same as I think giant SUV’s should also be banned (or a special category on the licence).

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 27/02/2025 18:07

Jazzjazzyjulez · 27/02/2025 14:34

They should be banned and culled without a doubt.

This! The so called “ban” was pathetic. They should all have been destroyed. Let’s not forget that all dogs are human creations and have no impact on the eco system, it’s not like deliberately ridding the world of bumble bees!

AlexandrinaH · 27/02/2025 18:14

ThatLemonBear · 27/02/2025 14:41

Leaving aside the fact that, as far as I know, the dog involved in this tragic incident hasn’t been confirmed as a XL bully….. I think the focus needs to be on enforcing the law e.g. muzzled in public etc rather than summary mass culling. The breed will naturally disappear in the UK over the next few years, as dogs die and the breeding ban means no replacement. There absolutely does need to be a focus on enforcing the law in the meantime IMO

They won’t - just like pit bulls haven’t disappeared.