Woman 19 dies in dog attack

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Woman 19 dies in dog attack in Bristol

Apologies if there’s already a thread on this, but how many more lives have to be taken in these horrific attacks before the Government admit that the current measures are failing. It surely has come to the point now that all XL Bullies should be euthanised.

Same with one near me the police fired a load of bullets into it.
There was cctv footage of it being very gentle before it tried to attack a random stranger on the other side of the road. The owner tired to get it off the stranger for it to turn on the owner.

Crazy how much things have changed
When I was little we had a German shepherd and people used to be bothered about play dates with her there until they met her
My dad rescued her as a puppy, my mum went ballistic, she turned into a fantastic dog who jumped off a balcony to protect me, broke her leg and still ran on 3 legs to bite the man who was trying to get me to go with him (I was screaming, she heard me)

Then it was staffy dogs - I do like the actual staffy type which are pretty small and always have a daft grin on their face!
Then they sort of got bigger and people saying it was a staff x to avoid it being typed as a pit bull

And now we are at the stage where we have dogs in public that can't be stopped with bullets and people want those instead of Heinz 57 dogs that used to be everywhere

Every dog needs to be licensed and chipped. Dog wardens should have the power to scan dogs they see and if there is no chip indicating licence- impounded.
the licence should be expensive. If you can’t afford it - tough. Dogs should only be bought from licensed breeders. All advertising of dogs on gum tree etc should be banned.
You aren’t allowed to own a car without insurance, you can’t drive it without a licence.
There is a park near me that is now a no go area for children due to dogs. As pp said - hard to prove what is an xl bully sometimes. People blatantly flaunting the law.

I hope he pulls through, it’s horrific for that to happen to an elderly person just walking down the street.
I agree re culling. I love dogs, can’t imagine my life without one. I once kept an elderly terrier I found abandoned because he was so fearful he tried to bite me and I knew he had little chance of finding a home. But I knew I could keep him, and others safe, and most importantly that he couldn’t overpower me.

XLs are the Orcs of the dog world, killers by design. Anyone who owns one is by definition the wrong person to have a dog.
We shouldn’t have dogs on the street that a person can’t defend themselves from. They need to be culled.

My new neighbour has an XL. I live in a cottage flat. The dog's owner doesn't muzzle or leash it in the shared areas. I'm terrified of this dog. The first time I saw it, it jumped up on me. Then when I was opening my door, it repeatedly threw itself against the door trying to get into my home. Then it ran into my home when workmen had left the door open. It ran amok throughout the house jumping up on the furniture. It slipped it's lead 5 times before the owner managed to get it out of my house. She is tiny and has no control of it. She allows it to toilet all over my garden and the grass is ruined. I am in fear each time I go outside in in case it appears. I stay with family as much as possible now. I'm in my sixties and it's housing association so no option to move.

Report this to the police immediately

I did. They said it doesn't need to be leashed or muzzled in the garden or grounds as those are not classed as a public place. Also asked me if I wanted to get the owner fined £5000. This is in Scotland.

@Twilight5 i would have said yes I do actually!

Please go back to the HA and say you’re not happy with the outcome and terrified in your own home, then follow your HA’s complaint procedure (it will be on their website).

She has now lied and told them it's not an XL so they said they can't do anything. No one from the HA has actually seen the dog. It's massive and clearly an XL.

When you are back at your flat, I would have your mobile on you to take pics/clips as evidence. At this stage it doesn’t matter if it’s not an XL, the fact is that it’s an out of control dog that is causing fear and distress. I’m so sorry that you’re having to go through this.

Thank you, I will. I actually got a ring doorbell and a camera viewing the front path and gate so that I can see if it's outside before I go out. Still worry that it could come out when I'm already out or on my way in though. I've never been afraid of dogs before but these are not normal dogs.

Would the police not go and speak to your neighbour? Regardless of the breed she shouldn’t have an out of control dog and you shouldn’t be fearful of leaving your home because she has no control. Might be worth speaking to them for advice.

I did. They weren't helpful.

XLs look at people the way a tiger looks at a deer.

They cannot be overpowered by even multiple healthy adult males. They are very aware that they are above us in the food chain.

The government are effectively allowing thousands of lions to live among us. And then act surprised when they keep killing people.

I have said this before on one of the very many “Another death by an XLB” threads. My DH was a sergeant in a specific Special Forces unit a long while ago, part of the training was to take out dogs, think entering a guarded compound avoiding detection and ensuring guard dogs were subdued. First thing of course drug them, then what to do in terms of disposing silently, use knife or basically snap their necks, pull their legs apart and burst their rib cages. He’s 6ft 4 and they were trained to kill under any circumstances necessary, he adores dogs and I’ve never seen him scared of one. He says all the tactics they learned (years ago before these dogs were bred) just wouldn’t work on one of these dogs, even emptying your sidearm into its head would be risky and the chances of getting a knife under its throat slim to none. THESE DOGS SHOULD NOT BE OWNED BY THE PUBLIC THEY ARE A SERIOUS THREAT TO LIFE.

@Twilight5 If it's housing association, is there any chance this irresponsible woman is also housing association?

Could they maybe do something?

Are dangerous dogs allowed in their properties?

The allowing it to shit everywhere is another issue- just typical of these idiot owners.

You are absolutely right to be concerned, these dogs are not like normal dogs, they are like brainless Orcs, just bent on killing - There are numerous videos and instances of them attacking older people, children, women -and men, but they do like an easy target especially.

The XLB one that slaughtered its owner's stepdaughter {aged 4 yrs old} smashed through the bedroom door to get to her. {Mia Derouen} - this is the one that a lot of UK ones are related to {they are hideously inbred}

This was a gentle little girl whom previously the monster ''loved''.

Why should you and the rest of the community be in danger because of an idiot's choice of ''look at ME!'' dog?

You CANNOT have a responsible XL Bully owner.
Its an oxymoron. Anyone responsible would never have one
Its not the dogs fault, they are bred to do a job and can't stop their in built behaviour anymore than my Retriever cant not bring me socks or my neighbours collie can't stop herding her on a walk.
You can mitigate breed related traits (which is what all the Poo owners are trying to do I assume) but they are still in there and while some can be annoying (soggy socks for example) some are dangerous

@BattIestar sad. Dogs do love, of course they do, but you need to be open to receiving love to see and feel this, but your blinded hatred and fear will never let you see this. I feel sorry for you in your spinning little world of frothy loathing. Bye!

That poor wee girl. My HA can't do anything because she's said it's not an XL. They did say the dog warden would tell her it must be kept under control but that feels pointless because it's too strong for her to control, has no recall and can slip it's lead. I was shocked at it throwing itself against my front door repeatedly. it sounded like a man trying to kick the door in and the owner did nothing to try to stop it.There are facebook groups for XL owners and they advise each other how to outsmart landlords rules by saying their dog isn't an XL or saying it's a different breed. I would absolutely support a cull.

I am very surprised that the police wouldn't visit. Around here they would be out very quickly in this sort of situation. have you told them exactly what happened?

Sorry, @Twilight., when I suggested calling the Housing Association, I didn't realise that you have already done that.

Please contact them again with photo evidence if you can- if it's unregistered, that in itself is illegal.

Have you a local Dog Warden?

There are dog wardens who are sensible and know how volatile and strong these XLB's are- they aren't like 'normal' large dogs, the massive inbreeding means aggression is hardwired in to these XLB's.

Yes. I wish they were like that here!

@Twilight5 I posted a reply I'd typed out about 10 mins before seeing your latest reply- you MUST take this further.

Do not give up.

Keep on at them.

That dog clearly is dangerous.

You deserve to be able to live safely in your house, and the community deserves to be protected from this idiot's dangerous dog.

@Twilight5 ...So the police suspect that this IS an XLB, hence mentioning ''do you want her to be fined £5,000?''

Just googled XLB's Scotland and that is the upper fine limit for having an unregistered XLB.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/xl-bully-dog-rules/