To think that Trump is not going to honor any agreement about Ukraine

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I'm seeing that Starmer is going over to say to Trump that he should offer security guarantees with the deal with Ukraine.

I just don't believe that Trump or America will honor any agreement made.

And what consequences can we leverage on them to make them do so? I'm not sure there enough levers to do so.

We've allowed them to have an outsize influence on world affairs and now the tiger is eating our face.

Well quite. It's not the only problem we have now the US may be rotting

It's actually Vance's doing. He's as bad as or worse than trump.

Of course trump can't be trusted in any way. More than that, his motives have to be feared. He wants the utter destruction of Ukraine and it kills me the number of people who don't see that.

Trump is a narcissistic megalomaniac who feels a kindred spirit to those similar to him. Even in his first term, he buddied up to Putin because he feels a connection there. Same with North Korea.

Trump wants to annihilate Ukraine because his pride is dented. A good way to do that is to staff Ujraine's mineral facilities with Russian employees, to carry out the invasion another way. He thinks he's so clever...
You think I'm extrapolating? Sadly just wait and see.

It's awful but Trump and the USA have literally switched sides.

You are definitely not exaggerating

This is in The Guardian today.

One way or another... he won't live forever. The question is how much damage he enables in the meantime. I expect if his supporters can they will wangle it to keep going in his name, the way various Communist leaders were nominally president/ General Secretary and wheeled out fir state occasions until they died.

There's already a concerted effort in the MAGA movement to either rewrite the 22nd amendment or to simply ignore it to get Trump a third term. This is being driven by the likes of Bannon. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-third-term-constitution-forbids-rcna193329

Trump has shown us what he wants to do. Believe him.

The problem is how Europe responds when countries like France and the UK are already not agreeing in the basics. France wants an European force independent from the US, and the UK wants the US involved in a peace treaty with Ukraine.

The problem worsens when far right parties are getting more and more support in Europe and the UK with Farage. It's going to be extremely difficult to agree to a common defence force/policy in Europe with so many countries and interests to agree on.

And while Europe fights squabbles about their small country interests, people like Trump or Putin in control of their countries and with the nuclear arsenal behind them, laugh their head off.

I don't think he will either.
Zelensky should have offered to rename frontline cities in 'honor' of Trump. Trumps ego is so massive Putin attacking 'Trumpville' might actually turn Trump against Putin.

One more thing from me. There is a saying in English that explains what's happening now "if you can't beat them, join them"

The EU is the largest trade organisation and Trump and Putin want to destroy it so they can focus on the Asia powerhouse.

Earth has finite resources and the competition for those resources are changing global politics.

Panterusblackish · 28/02/2025 18:33

MichaelandKirk · 27/02/2025 22:38
Wonder how Margaret Thatcher would have dealt with Trump?

Swiftly and with style

What, like she did when Reagan ordered the invasion of Grenada, without asking? She huffed and puffed and sulked.

I think you got the main point of it.
US wants to bring Europe down, win over China and keep Russia under control.
An European all in war has always rendered a lot of profit to US, will bring down Europe's economy, mortgaging it to the US again. One player out and the others more under control. He is waging on any crack within the EU and the other Europe countries, including UK recent Brexit saga.
Europe can perfectly live with Russia. They are neighbours and have been allies. We cannot deal with Putin, but yes very much with Russia. A moderate president in Russia would overturn this in Trump's face. A united Europe is a big adversary. A Europe aligned with China would be rather undesirable to Trump. And I think China would do what is convenient for China, whether Russia likes it or not.
Lots of cards in this game.
They are all posing and threatening. This much budget on arms, this much tariff, this much sanction...
At present, it is looking good for Putin, but really, we cannot afford for Putin to come out of this winning or he will keep taking from any country he fancies.
A US siding with Putin is our worst nightmare, but this man has stopped aid to Ukraine and is going to visit Putin today.
And it is not Zelensky's fault (Trump had already vlearly sided himself with hos man by then). This is not the consequence of a few truths spoken out of turn in front of some cameras
This is all in geopolitics pole flip: money, resources, trade, land and weapons.