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The Tate Brothers

192 replies

StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 12:53

I put this in AIBU for traffic. I am furious and I know what I’m feeling is reasonable. Trump has convinced/bullied whatever Romania into releasing the bastards and has allowed them to fly to America. They are on their way to Florida. No doubt to be wined and dined at bloody Maralago. They will now have a luxury life and continue to be able to abuse and exploit women and girls and also corrupt the minds of boys and young men. 😡

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Dollydaydream100 · 27/02/2025 16:45

Arrivals4lucky · 27/02/2025 15:52

Andrew Tate has some lovely lesson about how to have sex with women - choke, slap etc
Just what our teens need to learn about - how ‘real’ men have sex and how women need to learn to submit to them.

Does he really actually SAY this stuff on camera?

Ive heard of him of course but I don't really know anything about him.

Jeeekers · 27/02/2025 16:46

StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 12:53

I put this in AIBU for traffic. I am furious and I know what I’m feeling is reasonable. Trump has convinced/bullied whatever Romania into releasing the bastards and has allowed them to fly to America. They are on their way to Florida. No doubt to be wined and dined at bloody Maralago. They will now have a luxury life and continue to be able to abuse and exploit women and girls and also corrupt the minds of boys and young men. 😡

Thinking Melanie will find them disgusting and will need to change the upholstery after they depart.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 27/02/2025 16:46

Does he really actually SAY this stuff on camera?

Yes. And in his posts on X etc.

jannier · 27/02/2025 16:46

Ablondiebutagoody · 27/02/2025 13:51

They seem like a pair of tw@ts but pretty insignificant really so not worth getting worked up about.

No insignificant for the young men that use them as role models and live copying them or the poor women they sold.

AffableApple · 27/02/2025 16:47

Ablondiebutagoody · 27/02/2025 13:51

They seem like a pair of tw@ts but pretty insignificant really so not worth getting worked up about.

I think you need to do some reading

Ablondiebutagoody · 27/02/2025 16:50

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 27/02/2025 16:44

So if you had sons, you really think that they would be persuaded to get into the sex trafficking business because of Andrew Tate?

It's not about young men getting into the sex trafficking business.
It's about how men treat women generally in society.

I think that most of the posters here need to have a bit more faith in their kids to see through his bullshit. It's wild that so many are worried their boys are going to turn into misogynistic monsters because of some cigar smoking cretin on the internet. The moral panic is massively OTT in my opinion.

RafaistheKingofClay · 27/02/2025 16:52

Have you spoken to any secondary teachers recently? Ask them how much of an issue it is in schools. Especially the female teachers.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 27/02/2025 16:57

I think that most of the posters here need to have a bit more faith in their kids to see through his bullshit. It's wild that so many are worried their boys are going to turn into misogynistic monsters because of some cigar smoking cretin on the internet. The moral panic is massively OTT in my opinion.

I'm confident in my son's ability to see through this bullshit because we actively encourage an environment where women are treated with respect.

But I would be naive to think that other young boys are being brought up in the same way. There are grown men who have their head turned by men like Tate. What about their sons? And now we have Trump and Musk legitimising this type of behaviour and views.
You're hugely underestimating how big an issue this is and how harmful this is for women.

StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 17:00

Ablondiebutagoody · 27/02/2025 13:51

They seem like a pair of tw@ts but pretty insignificant really so not worth getting worked up about.

No so, in the UK, they, especially Andrew have a huge influence amongst teenage boys and men. There blogs are all over the place, telling them that girls/womens only role is to support “their man”. That if they don’t do as they’re told, make them. If they don’t comply with want they want in sex, make them, using violence if necessary, so they learn respect. Ask any young girl in the UK and they will tell you that the many, many of the boys at school and college admire them and are influenced by them. I don’t see that as insignificant.

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Talonz · 27/02/2025 17:02

rightoguvnor · 27/02/2025 16:35

Trump's Waterloo? Are you kidding.
He continues to gather his nest of weirdos and sickos together.

Exactly.

StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 17:02

hamstersarse · 27/02/2025 14:37

How is Trump involved?

It's a genuine question

He ‘lobbied’ over the past two weeks for Romania to release them.

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Maggieb90 · 27/02/2025 17:03

I bet they are loving all the attention, cameras waiting, so arrogant!

StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 17:05

LaceApplique · 27/02/2025 15:13

Yes they are a pair of twats, but they have not been found guilty. We can't have a situation where the authorities can lock people up for an indefinite period of time or impose strict rules upon their life without being convicted. It would be a slippery slope indeed!

They were not locked up. They had their passports held whilst the case came to court because they were a flight risk. Do you really have a problem with that given that they were charged with multiple rapes, trafficking of children and money laundering?

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Ablondiebutagoody · 27/02/2025 17:07

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 27/02/2025 16:57

I think that most of the posters here need to have a bit more faith in their kids to see through his bullshit. It's wild that so many are worried their boys are going to turn into misogynistic monsters because of some cigar smoking cretin on the internet. The moral panic is massively OTT in my opinion.

I'm confident in my son's ability to see through this bullshit because we actively encourage an environment where women are treated with respect.

But I would be naive to think that other young boys are being brought up in the same way. There are grown men who have their head turned by men like Tate. What about their sons? And now we have Trump and Musk legitimising this type of behaviour and views.
You're hugely underestimating how big an issue this is and how harmful this is for women.

So mine and yours won't be. Just people less clever and enlightened than us. That's really patronising.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 27/02/2025 17:10

So mine and yours won't be. Just people less clever and enlightened than us. That's really patronising.

Where did I say anything about intelligence?
Please don't put words into my mouth.

Mittens67 · 27/02/2025 17:10

I am wondering how the GC feminists who said and still say they like trump because he “knows what a woman is” will defend this.
I am very much on side as a feminist who knows that sex is immutable but I would never be a single issue voter and in no way like any single thing about that orange psychopath.
The fact that he doesn’t think men in frocks are women is no more indicative of his nature than hitler being a vegetarian.
It will be of small comfort to the women who die from no access to abortion even in medical emergency that the president knows how to differentiate females from males.
We all know trump can recognise a genuine vagina when he sees one. After all, as he has boasted himself he can grab us by the pussy whenever he wants.
Trump has shown his contempt for women again and again. This bollocks with the Tate scum is just today’s example.
How any intelligent woman can support him in any way is a complete mystery to me.
Trump is not about being left or right wing. He is a sub species all of his own.
And let’s not forget that this moron holds the nuclear button.

FrenchandSaunders · 27/02/2025 17:12

He has had so much influence in the UK that secondary schools are having to hold special lessons/assemblies addressing it. Terrifying.

StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 17:15

Ablondiebutagoody · 27/02/2025 15:53

My son and I saw a clip of them this morning in response to this story probably, dancing around with their shirts off whilst smoking cigars. Complete tools. It was hilarious. I don't think that they are going to exert much influence over anyone.

You need to do some research. They are dangerous, violent misogynist rapists, who vlog and teach their millions of young male followers to be dangerous, violent, misogynist rapists

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StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 17:18

DaringTurtle · 27/02/2025 15:59

I felt sick when I saw the headlines. Trump, Musk & the Tate Bros are just an horrific group of men. I am afraid their influence will only embolden a host of fellow misogynists.

I’m generally a fairly chilled person. I practice mindfulness and rarely feel real anger, but this has pushed me over that edge!

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StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 17:20

User32459 · 27/02/2025 16:09

Trump knows what a woman is, the left don't.

He does, but he also thinks women are there to be controlled by men

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Kendodd · 27/02/2025 17:20

Mittens67 · 27/02/2025 17:10

I am wondering how the GC feminists who said and still say they like trump because he “knows what a woman is” will defend this.
I am very much on side as a feminist who knows that sex is immutable but I would never be a single issue voter and in no way like any single thing about that orange psychopath.
The fact that he doesn’t think men in frocks are women is no more indicative of his nature than hitler being a vegetarian.
It will be of small comfort to the women who die from no access to abortion even in medical emergency that the president knows how to differentiate females from males.
We all know trump can recognise a genuine vagina when he sees one. After all, as he has boasted himself he can grab us by the pussy whenever he wants.
Trump has shown his contempt for women again and again. This bollocks with the Tate scum is just today’s example.
How any intelligent woman can support him in any way is a complete mystery to me.
Trump is not about being left or right wing. He is a sub species all of his own.
And let’s not forget that this moron holds the nuclear button.

My thoughts exactly

StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 17:22

Ablondiebutagoody · 27/02/2025 16:19

He's an idiot but so what? The Internet is a swamp, there are tonnes. Why focus so much attention on one and his brother? Really not worth panicking about in my opinion.

You are just playing the provocation game now aren’t you. Just leave the thread.

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JHound · 27/02/2025 17:22

DuncinToffee · 27/02/2025 15:27

From the BBC

Today’s news was preceded by a diplomatic effort on behalf of Donald Trump’s White House.

US officials had brought up the case with the Romanian government earlier this month, a discussion that was first reported by the Financial Times.

And Trump envoy Richard Grenell raised the issue again a little over a week ago, at a security conference in Munich.

There are other ties as well.
One of Tate’s lawyers now works in the White House as a liaison to the US Justice Department.

Paul Ingrassia was part of a team representing the Tate brothers in a defamation lawsuit they filed against several of their alleged victims.

But Ingrassia also acted as Andrew Tate’s publicist and says he got the self-described misogynist influencer onto a show hosted by Tucker Carlson, the former Fox News host.

Ingrassia effusively praised Tate in online posts. In one dating from July 2023, he echoed far-right online talking points about moral decay in Western countries and called Tate “an extraordinary human being” who was offering “a dying West some hope for renewal”.

Jesus Christ….

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/02/2025 17:22

StrikeAlways · 27/02/2025 17:15

You need to do some research. They are dangerous, violent misogynist rapists, who vlog and teach their millions of young male followers to be dangerous, violent, misogynist rapists

Oh come on, they're not going to do any research.🙄 Too busy minimising the actions of sex traffickers and rapists because Donald Trump.

It's the MAGA way.🤷‍♀️

BIWI · 27/02/2025 17:22

RafaistheKingofClay · 27/02/2025 16:52

Have you spoken to any secondary teachers recently? Ask them how much of an issue it is in schools. Especially the female teachers.

What's really shocking about @Ablondiebutagoody and her posts is that she IS a teacher! (Based on an AS)

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