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to think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use?

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nameey · 22/02/2025 11:12

Just read that the 30 year old singer Avery has been diagnosed with osteoporosis due to Ozempic use. Looks like this could be the start of many conditions coming out.

I know Ozempic is incredibly helpful for a lot of people but losing weight but then having osteoporosis does not seem worth it.

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Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 13:43

nameey · 23/02/2025 13:39

Thank you for posting this. Scary stuff. There are likely to be more cases in time. I wouldn't be surprised.

That nurse didn’t die due to the drug. She was gravely unwell anyway. It was a contributing factor, as she was so unwell, but not the direct cause. Sadly she would have died anyway. My gp spoke to me about it, I think it was her gall bladder, I can’t fully recall.

www.theguardian.com/society/2024/nov/08/approved-weight-loss-drug-contributed-to-uk-nurses-death-report-says

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 13:43

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:39

She said she got it from a doctor?

But she didn’t go to a doctors office so probably her friend told her how to game the system to get it prescribed online.

She got it from a doctor who was her mate, why are you so desperate.

Lampzade · 23/02/2025 13:43

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:32

Did she? Can you back that up?
I’m sure I can find other examples but I don’t really have to. I think it might just be you who is denying that anyone at all has lied about their weight to get access to these drugs, celebrity or not. There is huge pressure particularly on young women these days to be slim, especially those in the public eye.

Aunty Google is your friend
Yes Lottie Moss got it from a friend of a friend and took a dose which was too high
She misused the drug which is why she ended up in hospital

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:43

She didn’t say she got it from a mate who was a doctor @Tulipsandaffodils

Her mate helped her get it but she got it from a doctor.

In fact it’s obvious she did as only doctors can prescribe it but equally obviously, she lied about her current weight to get it. And then failed to follow instructions which is another worry about it being prescribed without a proper face to face GP consultation where the risks can be properly explained.

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 13:43

@nameey the "scary stuff" that you mention is a known risk that is clearly identified in the patient information and when you are prescribed the medication. It's not a new risk or an unknown one. In addition, pancreatitis is a risk of being obese. In fact a significant risk, both of getting it and the severity of it. So, losing weight by taking Mounjaro would overall decrease your risk of severe pancreatitis.

Glorybox2025 · 23/02/2025 13:44

nameey · 23/02/2025 13:39

Thank you for posting this. Scary stuff. There are likely to be more cases in time. I wouldn't be surprised.

Did you also think it was 'scary stuff' when a tiny number of people had vaccine damage from the Covid vaccine amongst the millions who had no issues? What about other drugs with incredibly rare complications? Are they 'scary stuff' too? You honestly seem to have no idea how rational people consider and balance risk.

Glorybox2025 · 23/02/2025 13:44

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:39

She said she got it from a doctor?

But she didn’t go to a doctors office so probably her friend told her how to game the system to get it prescribed online.

No, she got it from a friend who was a doctor and gave her a dodgy prescription!

Mrsredlipstick · 23/02/2025 13:47

I took wegovy with a bmi of 32 and ended up in hospital. Unbeknown to me I had gallstones. No problems before taking the drug.
My doctor gave permission.
I now have to have surgery and have been off sick for months.
It is noted in the leaflet as a rare side effect and the pharma company have wanted data from me.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 13:48

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:43

She didn’t say she got it from a mate who was a doctor @Tulipsandaffodils

Her mate helped her get it but she got it from a doctor.

In fact it’s obvious she did as only doctors can prescribe it but equally obviously, she lied about her current weight to get it. And then failed to follow instructions which is another worry about it being prescribed without a proper face to face GP consultation where the risks can be properly explained.

Edited

Lottie moss can’t have been clearer. She even says it wasn’t above board. She was not legitimately prescribed. I have no idea why you’re refusing to believe it. She even did a podcast.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:50

Glorybox2025 · 23/02/2025 13:44

No, she got it from a friend who was a doctor and gave her a dodgy prescription!

Why would a doctor risk their registration & career to knowingly give someone a dodgy prescription? Not very likely, far more likely she lied to get it.

lettyraines · 23/02/2025 13:50

Mrsredlipstick · 23/02/2025 13:47

I took wegovy with a bmi of 32 and ended up in hospital. Unbeknown to me I had gallstones. No problems before taking the drug.
My doctor gave permission.
I now have to have surgery and have been off sick for months.
It is noted in the leaflet as a rare side effect and the pharma company have wanted data from me.

That sounds awful. That would be my concern with taking these sorts of drugs, that I would end up with a worse problem than being a bit more overweight than is ideal. I hope your health recovers from this.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 13:51

nameey · 23/02/2025 13:39

Thank you for posting this. Scary stuff. There are likely to be more cases in time. I wouldn't be surprised.

Do you also find the cancer stats of obese people scary?

www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet

LionME · 23/02/2025 13:52

nameey · 23/02/2025 13:03

Great journal articles thank you.

From the first one:

There was an increased risk of gastrointestinal disorders, hypotension, syncope, arthritic disorders, nephrolithiasis, interstitial nephritis and drug-induced pancreatitis associated with GLP-1RA use compared to usual care.

From the second one:

This study’s findings suggest an association between semaglutide and Nonarteritic Anterior Ischemic Optic Neuropathy

Do you know what are the increased risk of heart disease, arthritis, cancer etc… due to obesity?

Im not saying that there are no risk with weight loss jab. It’s very clear there are.
But what’s interesting is

  • what are the exact risk. Increased risk is nothing. Could increased by 0.1% or increased by 400%.
  • how do those risk compare to doing nothing?
Like cancer drugs. We know there are huge risks to taking cancer drugs. It doesn’t mean no one should take them. What you look at is the risk of taking them vs doing nothing.

Staying at the level of ‘it’s increasing risks!!!! No one should ever touch them’ is simplistic and doesn’t reflect the complexity in taking that decision. A decision that should be taken on a person to person basis too. Like any medication.

Fwiw I think everyone should be reading articles like that. That’s part of taking a informed decision.
Whats not good is reading two articles and NOT educating yourself on the other side of the cling but beating a frenzy about how dangerous these are.

And if part of your decision process is to say ‘we don’t know enough about the LT impact ’. Then fair enough. But don’t force everyone to come to the same conclusion than you and shoehorn anything you can find that support your conclusion into it?

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 13:52

lettyraines · 23/02/2025 13:50

That sounds awful. That would be my concern with taking these sorts of drugs, that I would end up with a worse problem than being a bit more overweight than is ideal. I hope your health recovers from this.

Doubtful, look at the stats I just posted, you’re hugely more at risk being fat.

BeGoldHedgehog · 23/02/2025 13:52

oh goody yes, lets hope all those obese sods keel over and die. Hopefully the depressed ones will suffer from heart attacks too from all their medications

Glorybox2025 · 23/02/2025 13:53

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:50

Why would a doctor risk their registration & career to knowingly give someone a dodgy prescription? Not very likely, far more likely she lied to get it.

You're extremely naive if you think dodgy doctors don't prescribe drugs for cash to celebrity clients 😆😆

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 13:56

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:50

Why would a doctor risk their registration & career to knowingly give someone a dodgy prescription? Not very likely, far more likely she lied to get it.

What and is still lying, 😂

IvysMum12 · 23/02/2025 14:01

ExtraOnions · 22/02/2025 12:24

Being morbidly obese I have a (actual and scientifically proven) much higher chance of Stroke, Heart Disease, Diabeties, High blood pressure etc etc etc. I would sooner work to reduce my chances of those, than worry about some unproven scaremongering.

3 stone in 3 months with Mounjaro

Exactly. I've lost six and a half stone since last May on Mounjaro. Supervised by two Consultants.
Only side effects were sulphuric burps.
I was massively, morbidly obese.
Not any more.
We need more data regarding maintenance, which we all know is the hard part.
It's a hard hitting drug, not a "celebrity" fad for a bikini body.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 14:05

Glorybox2025 · 23/02/2025 13:53

You're extremely naive if you think dodgy doctors don't prescribe drugs for cash to celebrity clients 😆😆

Well personally I think you’re being naive if you think lots of celebrities & Z list celebrities like Lottie Moss aren’t using weight loss drugs to stay slim whether they admit to it or not.

I think it’s highly likely they are & that most of them are getting them from the same online pharmacies people on this thread are using.

But we’ve moved away from the title of this thread which is not about Lottie Moss but about negative side effects that may or may not emerge in future.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 14:08

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 14:05

Well personally I think you’re being naive if you think lots of celebrities & Z list celebrities like Lottie Moss aren’t using weight loss drugs to stay slim whether they admit to it or not.

I think it’s highly likely they are & that most of them are getting them from the same online pharmacies people on this thread are using.

But we’ve moved away from the title of this thread which is not about Lottie Moss but about negative side effects that may or may not emerge in future.

So like you’re kong term unknown effects, nothing to back it up, 😂😂😂

Mrsredlipstick · 23/02/2025 14:08

My surgery would have been needed at some point but wegovy inflammed my gallbladder. It's was agony.
I wouldn't take the drugs again as I am now much slimmer however for people with morbid obesity they are life changing (I suffered D and V too which is a no for me). Two friends have had few side effects but are diabetic.
In a weird way they did save my life as my pre op ct scan showed something much more sinister and I'm being operated on in the next week.
FWIW I did weigh 20+ stone and had these drugs been available then I would have been first in the queue.

MzHz · 23/02/2025 14:24

Caffeineneedednow · 23/02/2025 12:27

What exactly do you want to be the outcome of this thread?

Would you just like everyone to agree with you that WLI are bad and all fatties just need to go on a diet and go to a gym?
The eat less move more has been the mantra for decades but obesity levels across the world are rising.

To be clear if weight loss was that easy we wouldn't have an obesity pandemic.

There are things we as a society can do. For example tax the fuck out of UPF, increase infrastructure for access to sport especially in lower socioeconomic areas where childhood obesity is highest. However this would be unpopular / expensive so unlikely to happen.

So we have an obesity pandemic and now there is actually a treatment available that is allowing people to regain control of their health. The problems often highlighted as issues with the drug including your original post are actually due to their misuse not their prescribed use. So by worrying about potential side and then laughing at those who disagree with you with some random argumebt that they are unhappy but claiming to be happy is incredibly condescending and goes back to the argument of what arebyou trying to achieve?

I work in a medical school and one of the things we teach med students is how to broach sentivie topics and the way you and others in this thread are laughing at those reply to you and just calling them defensive is what causes the defensiveness. You need to adress things in a middle ground and actually be willing to listen to others experiences.

Love this post. Brava! Spot on!

AlphaApple · 23/02/2025 14:56

@caffeineneedednow nails it.

RunSlowTalkFast · 23/02/2025 15:05

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 13:50

Why would a doctor risk their registration & career to knowingly give someone a dodgy prescription? Not very likely, far more likely she lied to get it.

Money.

Michael Jackson
Matthew Perry

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:46

I doubt Lottie Moss has the same access to money as those two.

In the end no one can know for sure how Lottie Moss got access to drugs that she definitely shouldn't have been prescribed and it's worrying that she managed to do so because of the implications for other young women.

But again, this thread is not about her but rather about whether we think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use. What do you think?

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