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to think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use?

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nameey · 22/02/2025 11:12

Just read that the 30 year old singer Avery has been diagnosed with osteoporosis due to Ozempic use. Looks like this could be the start of many conditions coming out.

I know Ozempic is incredibly helpful for a lot of people but losing weight but then having osteoporosis does not seem worth it.

AIBU?

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Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 15:51

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:46

I doubt Lottie Moss has the same access to money as those two.

In the end no one can know for sure how Lottie Moss got access to drugs that she definitely shouldn't have been prescribed and it's worrying that she managed to do so because of the implications for other young women.

But again, this thread is not about her but rather about whether we think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use. What do you think?

Oh give over, she clearly has enough to buy a few vials of ozempic 😂😂😂😂

and yeah we beleive she’s being honest, it’s just you deciding she lied to Boots.

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 15:55

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:46

I doubt Lottie Moss has the same access to money as those two.

In the end no one can know for sure how Lottie Moss got access to drugs that she definitely shouldn't have been prescribed and it's worrying that she managed to do so because of the implications for other young women.

But again, this thread is not about her but rather about whether we think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use. What do you think?

Possibly. Possibly not. That’s all there is to say on the matter, surely?! It’s ridiculous to think there can be any discussion on the matter because none of us can see into the future. They’re doing some pretty amazing things currently though - that’s not in doubt.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:56

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 15:51

Oh give over, she clearly has enough to buy a few vials of ozempic 😂😂😂😂

and yeah we beleive she’s being honest, it’s just you deciding she lied to Boots.

Yes she has enough money to buy ozempic from an online pharmacy that doesn't ask for enough proof.

No I don't think she has enough money to persuade a UK doctor to risk ending their career over giving her drugs even knowing her very low BMI.

Why are you so determined to derail this thread rather than thinking about the actual question asked by the OP?

RunSlowTalkFast · 23/02/2025 15:58

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:56

Yes she has enough money to buy ozempic from an online pharmacy that doesn't ask for enough proof.

No I don't think she has enough money to persuade a UK doctor to risk ending their career over giving her drugs even knowing her very low BMI.

Why are you so determined to derail this thread rather than thinking about the actual question asked by the OP?

If I had Kate Moss' money any younger siblings of mine would also be multimillionaires. No idea how generous Kate Moss is though.

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 15:59

@Twiglets1 the answer can only be, as already said, possibly or possibly not! It would seem unlikely to me at the moment, given the history of use, the use by many millions of people and the very low incidence of the known serious side effects. Much more likely that there will be new uses and new GLP-1s that address other related issues successfully.

nameey · 23/02/2025 16:00

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 15:46

I doubt Lottie Moss has the same access to money as those two.

In the end no one can know for sure how Lottie Moss got access to drugs that she definitely shouldn't have been prescribed and it's worrying that she managed to do so because of the implications for other young women.

But again, this thread is not about her but rather about whether we think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use. What do you think?

@Twiglets1 thank you for trying to keep this thread on track 👏

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SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 16:03

nameey · 23/02/2025 16:00

@Twiglets1 thank you for trying to keep this thread on track 👏

I have to say, @nameey - bravo for your incredible contribution to this thread. It’s been truly insightful!

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 16:13

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 15:59

@Twiglets1 the answer can only be, as already said, possibly or possibly not! It would seem unlikely to me at the moment, given the history of use, the use by many millions of people and the very low incidence of the known serious side effects. Much more likely that there will be new uses and new GLP-1s that address other related issues successfully.

I agree that no definitive answer can be given at present as we simply don't have enough data for the widespread use of these drugs for weight loss purposes. I think the risks seem acceptable at the moment as long as the drugs are taken as the manufacturers recommend.

However, I do think long-term studies are needed to identify potential problems with long-term use.

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 16:16

@Twiglets1 there have been many studies for semaglutide for weight loss, and they are continuing. The same with tirzepatide. I think there's a lot of current data with more to come.

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Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 16:29

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 16:16

@Twiglets1 there have been many studies for semaglutide for weight loss, and they are continuing. The same with tirzepatide. I think there's a lot of current data with more to come.

Yes it's good there have been some studies but there is still a need for more long term studies and hopefully they will provide reassurance.

I definitely think weight loss drugs are here to stay and will continue be prescribed for a wide range of people. It's just that they may not be suitable for everyone that wants them & it's better to be aware of any possible negative effects as well as all the positive ones.

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 16:38

No prescription medication is suitable for everyone that wants them. Medication isn't prescribed according to want, there are prescribing criteria in place.

It hardly needs saying, does it, that it's better to be aware of any possible negative effects of a medication? That's why the info is printed in the patient info leaflet that must accompany the medication. And in all the interactions you have with the prescriber before prescribing. And why manufacturers continue with studies and research, and the MHRA runs the Yellow Card scheme and so on.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 16:58

SilenceInside · 23/02/2025 16:38

No prescription medication is suitable for everyone that wants them. Medication isn't prescribed according to want, there are prescribing criteria in place.

It hardly needs saying, does it, that it's better to be aware of any possible negative effects of a medication? That's why the info is printed in the patient info leaflet that must accompany the medication. And in all the interactions you have with the prescriber before prescribing. And why manufacturers continue with studies and research, and the MHRA runs the Yellow Card scheme and so on.

This is all true & it's also true (in my opinion) that there is still a need for more long term studies on these drugs being used for weight loss over many years. The NHS guidance is still that you can take semaglutide for a maximum of 2 years.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 17:00

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/obesity/treatment/

steff13 · 23/02/2025 17:27

I know it's not in any way the point, but that article spells "Phoenix" incorrectly multiple times. I guess The Daily Mail can't afford spell check. 😉

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 17:37

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 17:00

I would suspect that users of semaglutide know that there’s currently a limit for its usage. There isn’t such a limit for tirzepatide.

Tulipsandaffodils · 23/02/2025 17:55

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 17:37

I would suspect that users of semaglutide know that there’s currently a limit for its usage. There isn’t such a limit for tirzepatide.

Yes I think it is common knowledge that wegovy is for two years and mounjaro for life. The link will need updating by the nhs, as they have now approved mounjaro, albeit it starts in the summer via tier 3. It’s a shame it’s only for 300k people a year but they just don’t have the money, yet.

howver the more people take it privately the more pressure comes off the nhs, due to other health conditions needing treatment reducing. I suspect that’s in part why the government is so supportive of the drugs, the proven safety and low risk of the drugs and if you cure the issue and you don’t need to treat the symptoms.

I was being checked monthly by my gp. Taking heavy doses of bp meds, now they are stopped as I’m a healthy weight and bp is fine, and I no longer need to see the doctor, so as a micro example, my private treatment has freed up nhs resources, and that will be multiplied by hundreds of thousands.

and that’s before we start counting a reduction in things like cancer, joint replacement, diabetes, repurcussions of diabetes, heart attack, stroke. And so many more medical problems obese people suffer with.

obesity is one of the most signficant and major deadly diseases we endure as a population, and a large swathe of the population, globally is suffering and living with obesity, when you remove that for the vast majority, safely enable them to be a healthy weight, you by turn make the nhs much more efficient.

it will take time, but the more people who buy it privately the less pressure there is on the nhs, and as new drugs hit the market, and pills, we will see the nhs being able to more widely prescribe, as resources are freed up.

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 17:55

soupyspoon · 22/02/2025 22:19

OP hasnt even 'reached out' to me lately given that Im on medication that leaches calcium out of me and risks osteoporosis in later life.

Does no one care? Wheres my thread?

Yes, I haven't heard a peep from her either, despite my having taken Tamoxifen for several years. You know, the prescribed drug that, whilst protecting you from a breast cancer reoccurance, has also been proven to damage your heart and increase your risk of strokes and uterine cancer!

Presumably the OP doesn't care because I can now comfortably wear size 10 jeans after 6 months on MJ?

I'm deeply hurt.

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:01

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 17:55

Yes, I haven't heard a peep from her either, despite my having taken Tamoxifen for several years. You know, the prescribed drug that, whilst protecting you from a breast cancer reoccurance, has also been proven to damage your heart and increase your risk of strokes and uterine cancer!

Presumably the OP doesn't care because I can now comfortably wear size 10 jeans after 6 months on MJ?

I'm deeply hurt.

Oh - you didn’t see what op’s opinion of a size 10 was…

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 18:11

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:01

Oh - you didn’t see what op’s opinion of a size 10 was…

Oh no, I missed that. Shame.

Twiglets1 · 23/02/2025 18:26

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 17:37

I would suspect that users of semaglutide know that there’s currently a limit for its usage. There isn’t such a limit for tirzepatide.

Yet I've seen people on Ozempic and now Wegovy threads say they intend to take it for life on maintenance doses.

Maybe that 2 year guidance will change to be in line with tirzepatide IF they have the same effects on the body.

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:27

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 18:11

Oh no, I missed that. Shame.

It got deleted but she’s just laughed at my post telling you that - so that should give you an indication of her feelings and the true nature of this entire thread.

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 18:28

Anyway, once the patent for Mounjaro expires (in about 20 months, I think?) the cost will drop dramatically (probably somewhere between only £30-£40 per month?).

At which point, these faux concern threads will simply disappear.

Arraminta · 23/02/2025 18:29

SwingTheMonkey · 23/02/2025 18:27

It got deleted but she’s just laughed at my post telling you that - so that should give you an indication of her feelings and the true nature of this entire thread.

Righty O. Still, it's always useful to know which posters aren't very good at thinking.