to think more negative effects will come out from Ozempic use?

[nameey]

Just read that the 30 year old singer Avery has been diagnosed with osteoporosis due to Ozempic use. Looks like this could be the start of many conditions coming out.

I know Ozempic is incredibly helpful for a lot of people but losing weight but then having osteoporosis does not seem worth it.

AIBU?

They stay though and keep insisting and insisting. Then accusing other people of being spiteful.

But… you have been spiteful?

Results of the poll are currently you are not being unreasonable 59%

Eating disorders cause osteoporosis.

Having a slightly popular opinion doesn't make it a valid one, it means there are lots of other people who are similarly misinformed.

Who knew there were so many scientists that specialise in GLP-1 drugs on Mumsnet.

Or wait, is it just the general public with a vague 'feeling' based on nothing at all.

So?

What point are you making, that 59 percent of people who read your thread think the lady got osteoporosis from the drug and not due to her eating disorder and more side effects will come out, as 15 years of trials and 20 years of this peptide being in use under various guises isn’t enough.

so what if others feel as you do. Back it up with clinical evidence. Post something sensible.

I'm not sure why I'm even responding to this level of nonsense but obesity is a disease, whether you like that fact or not.

Yes, such fun, none of us are going to let you away with it and you will be challenged.

@Twiglets1

And all the people saying they plan to stay on weight loss drugs for life on a maintenance dose…don’t they realise they won’t qualify for it anymore once their BMI is in the normal range or even the overweight range. Or do they intend to lie about their weight once they no longer qualify?

Tell me you don't understand obesity, what these drugs are for or prescribing guidelines without telling me etc

Well, how is it going to work, oh informed one?

It’s been explained multiple times. Read the thread 😂

Probably because it’s an answer to your thread title.

And yes most people will say that some negative side effects will appear later.
Like we’ve learnt that taking antihistamine like cetirizine long term increases the risk of dementia,

And I fully agree with that thread title. Even though Im also using MJ blablabla.

Your OP though is disingenuous as explained at length in the thread.

People who were obese and are no longer obese due to following a treatment plan including WLI will be entitled to remain on WLI once they reach a healthy BMI in order to maintain the healthy BMI

It's really not that difficult to understand if you think about it for more than a minute. Obesity is a chronic condition - once you have it, it's very hard to lose it. Even losing weight doesn't mean you have lost the tendency to obesity. Compounded with the fact that we live in an obesogenic society it's clear we need a treatment that helps maintain long term treatment for obesity. Time will tell how long people need to maintain for before their bodies no longer tend towards weight gain after a period of obesity, whether that's months, years or never, but there is absolutely no suggestion that anyone who has used WLI to reduce their BMI will no longer be entitled to take it once they reach a healthy BMI.

What exactly do you want to be the outcome of this thread?

Would you just like everyone to agree with you that WLI are bad and all fatties just need to go on a diet and go to a gym?
The eat less move more has been the mantra for decades but obesity levels across the world are rising.

To be clear if weight loss was that easy we wouldn't have an obesity pandemic.

There are things we as a society can do. For example tax the fuck out of UPF, increase infrastructure for access to sport especially in lower socioeconomic areas where childhood obesity is highest. However this would be unpopular / expensive so unlikely to happen.

So we have an obesity pandemic and now there is actually a treatment available that is allowing people to regain control of their health. The problems often highlighted as issues with the drug including your original post are actually due to their misuse not their prescribed use. So by worrying about potential side and then laughing at those who disagree with you with some random argumebt that they are unhappy but claiming to be happy is incredibly condescending and goes back to the argument of what arebyou trying to achieve?

I work in a medical school and one of the things we teach med students is how to broach sentivie topics and the way you and others in this thread are laughing at those reply to you and just calling them defensive is what causes the defensiveness. You need to adress things in a middle ground and actually be willing to listen to others experiences.

God everytime I read this thread it makes me reach for the chocolate.

Im going to start from page one again though to check for everyones spelling errors as I see that seems to be the priority arguments being currently made.

Very important

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All that tells us is that 59% of the people who could be arsed to respond are as misinformed about the link between Ozempic and osteoporosis (and this unfortunate young woman) as you and your mates on the thread.

AHH but you don't know that really do you. Let's cut to the case here. There are a thousand reasons people blame their obesity , diabetes, hypertension etc on outside influences.I appreciate there are people who cannot help their physical problems. People always want an easy fix in some shape or form, Some of em would drink Komodo dragon piss and damn the consequences if they thought it would help them lose weight. However they don't want to know or acknowledge side effects and long term use as long as they lose weight this way instead of the eating less, move more model. And don't bother with the excuses, I've heard them all !!

I don’t have an issue at all with people bringing prescribed it who have a BMI of over 28.

Obese category is 30 or over so at 28 you’re very overweight according to the BMI scales.

You still have to eat less and move more on weight loss drugs.

You are a very odd person

@Pussycat22 you are showing your lack of understanding of how GLP-1 medications like Ozempic/Wegovy and Mounjaro work. They don't melt the fat off you, whilst you continue to eat cake. They enable you to eat less, and move more. You lose weight from being in a calorie deficit, which the medication supports you to be able to do and to maintain. Therefore you eat less.

I fully acknowledge the possible side effects. I have fully informed myself on them before starting taking Mounjaro, of course. I am fully aware there may be long term risks as yet identified. I am very happy to balance that against the real and actual risks to my health of remaining morbidly obese.

Some prescribers do prescribe for maintenance when users are at a healthy weight.

Come on! I never said I was an expert on prescribing practices.

What we don’t know though is the long term effects of taking weight loss drugs for years, this is an issue worth debating in my opinion.

Some people have said they needed to switch pharmacies once their BMI is in the “normal” range - why is that?