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Are you wary of travelling to USA currently?

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 14:42

I am sure you will tell me I’m BU, but that’s fine!
I’ve been to the states numerous times - Florida (all over, not just Disney/Orlando), New York City, California (los Angeles), Massachusetts and New Orleans.
Myself and 2 adult DCs were planning to go to Orlando again this October. Primarily for Halloween and DS (28) is autistic & very fixated with all things Disney.
DD (30) and I decided not to go ahead and take DS to Disneyland Paris instead. Yes, we’ve been there before, and it doesn’t really compare to the US version (IMO) not even close, but DS won’t mind.
it’s solely down to the current POS in charge and all his minions. America seems (to me) to be on a knife edge, very volatile, and DD being LGBT is understandably unsettled too.
I am not the sort of person who usually would even give a moment’s thought to something like this, but I just have a really uneasy feeling about going there. Chances are, at age 58, I may never go again.
AIBU or would you be thinking twice at the moment about travelling there? (especially Florida which is a red state)
I detest that man SO much!

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Overtheatlantic · 21/02/2025 15:50

I’m heart broken at what’s happening to the U.S. and talk of civil war is utterly anathema to me. That would mean Americans killing other Americans. I consider trump and his administration to be traitors and I hope he gets impeached and removed from office.

medianewbie · 21/02/2025 15:50

RandomButtons · 21/02/2025 15:04

Rise of facism, DOGE erasing public workers left right and centre, Trump basically declaring war on multiple nations, calling himself King, making unilateral decisions that go against their constitution, declaring that no one can speak against him.

He’s setting himself up as a dictator (a puppet one at that), and the American constitution is designed to prevent a dictator or King arising. The people are constitutionally allowed to overthrow that. That basically means civil war.

Perfectly put.
Also, swinging cuts to everything may well affect the safety of, eg, air traffic control. I am female & disabled, I have 2 ASD YP (1 is LGB). Not the place for us atm. We would travel to Canada tho.

RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:50

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/02/2025 15:49

You are less likely to be stabbed randomly in the States than In Birmingham or Dublin.

But the chances of getting shot in a massacre are higher!

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user17353 · 21/02/2025 15:51

We were going to visit this summer. We are now going somewhere else.

I no longer view the US as a friendly country. As someone in my 50s who has lived through various turbulent times, I'm more worried than I have ever been about the state of the world and its trump and musk that are responsible.

RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:52

user17353 · 21/02/2025 15:51

We were going to visit this summer. We are now going somewhere else.

I no longer view the US as a friendly country. As someone in my 50s who has lived through various turbulent times, I'm more worried than I have ever been about the state of the world and its trump and musk that are responsible.

It’s good to know I’m not alone in my thoughts and fears.

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VickyEadieofThigh · 21/02/2025 15:53

My partner and I are both L - we're off to Miami to join a cruise next month.

I think Trump is insane but I really don't feel remotely threatened.

proporop · 21/02/2025 15:55

As a protest against the current administration and what is going on, I've cancelled all plans to go there for forseeable.

Canadians are cancelling their hols as well I see - lots of potential lost tourist revenue.

Not to mention the air safety issues - Trump has fired a load more aviation officials - which I understand means commercial flights will be less safe:

www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-musk-faa-firings-purge-air-safety-1235271233/

Drylogsonly · 21/02/2025 15:56

Florida isn’t a safe state for anyone gay.

Breezeblock · 21/02/2025 15:57

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:07

Do not go they won’t need you or your money. Go somewhere where your values aligned. You seem way too old to be in a place where you do not want to be. However, they will be ok either way if you go or not. Plus, there does not seem to be a running hysteria about not going.

This reminds me of studying history at school in the 1990s. Where we were talked about finding evidence of past political beliefs through newspapers, cartoons, letters etc.

The future version will be based on past social media posts. This one’s a perfect example of a certain type of mindset. Very illustrative.

ChaosAndToast · 21/02/2025 15:57

I'm considering cancelling my November holiday, I'll lose £2.5 but it seems a small price to pay.

Words · 21/02/2025 15:58

The fact we are invited to applaud a state governor making "an anti Nazi speech" says absolutely everything about the state America is in now.

PurpleThistle7 · 21/02/2025 16:01

Im American and we are going back for 3 weeks in July and again in December (my father in law is quite ill) and I am beyond anxious about it. Between the guns, the political situation, the intense under staffing of all sorts of key posts (huge numbers of staff being fired from
National parks, aviation, etc) it's super scary. He's rolling back all sorts of environmental protections and I'm sure making the food and air and water less and less safe.

I already worry about being shot (my grandmother's old age home and my father's synagogue had mass shooting events and we stay with my dad, my in-laws own endless guns and I've had a gun pointed at me twice when I lived there)

A huge concern for me as well is accessing safe health care if we need it. My daughter is 12 and I'd be super hesitant to visit in a few years. I'd definitely be making sure she wasn't pregnant before we left (and this isn't just about abortion, there are other things she could have to access if she was indeed pregnant that wouldn't be available to her in some states today. It's a safety issue for me.)

My husband and I are both American so no choice really but I'm sick about it.

JoyousGreyOrca · 21/02/2025 16:02

I am not convinced there will be an outright civil war, unrest yes.
I think the geographical area around Disney will be fairly safe.
What would worry me more is plane crashes. 4 crashes in a short space of time, firing of staff and utter chaos in the agencies as a result, just sounds like more disasters waiting to happen.

unsync · 21/02/2025 16:03

You couldn't pay me to go to the States. Disgust and contempt are my main feelings. I don't understand why anyone would want to have anything to do with them after recent events. Amoral and avaricious behaviour should not be supported.

Bollihobs · 21/02/2025 16:03

mathanxiety · 21/02/2025 15:11

At the same time, the governor of the state I live in made an explicitly anti Nazi speech along with the presenting of the state budget.

Meanwhile an Ipsos poll shows trump polling below 50%. Yes, that's a lower case t.

Oh my God, no, not, not.....a lower case 't'...... 😂 That'll show him!

Mistletoewench · 21/02/2025 16:04

user17353 · 21/02/2025 15:51

We were going to visit this summer. We are now going somewhere else.

I no longer view the US as a friendly country. As someone in my 50s who has lived through various turbulent times, I'm more worried than I have ever been about the state of the world and its trump and musk that are responsible.

We go to the states a lot as a family and I’ve just come back from NYC.
What is going on over there has shaken us tbc, and how quickly things have escalated.
we are giving it a miss this year and hopefully things will settle down.
it upsets me as I love America and its people, it just feels unstable at the moment.

Hufflemuff · 21/02/2025 16:05

Due to fly to the MidWest in Spirng and yes... but only because of all the recent plane crashes! There's been about 5 in USA in 2025:

Recent Incidents:

  1. January 29, 2025: An American Airlines regional jet collided midair with a U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter near Washington, D.C., resulting in 67 deaths.
  1. January 31, 2025: A Learjet 55 medical evacuation flight crashed shortly after takeoff in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, killing all six on board and one person on the ground.
  1. February 6, 2025: A Bering Air Cessna 208B crashed over Norton Sound in Alaska, resulting in 10 fatalities.
  1. February 8, 2025: A small plane crashed near Covington Municipal Airport in Georgia, killing both occupants.
OneLemonDog · 21/02/2025 16:05

I wouldn't travel there and I'm less than 15 mins away.

JustMeHello · 21/02/2025 16:08

I would absolutely not consider going to the US again while Trump is in charge. But to be honest, even when he's gone I think I'd have serious doubts about going again until the general direction of society and politics changes. I've been several times and loved it, there are some amazing places, but the change in people in general over the last couple of decades is scary, and there are other places I'd go before going back there.

Jennifershuffles · 21/02/2025 16:08

The current situation is unstable, I would not book something far in advance, and would be worried about going there with a gender nonconforming teen. I've always felt that it's a country I would not visit if our family was black - we lived in CA for 4 years so I do know the place to an extent.
I don't really think there is likely to be any danger, but the whole thing makes me feel extremely disturbed. A place where those in power are giving Nazi salutes is not a place I want to bring my family.

Crikeyalmighty · 21/02/2025 16:08

@Mistletoewench yes that's how we feel

RexsSoupCan · 21/02/2025 16:10

Yes! not a chance I would go at the moment

JustMeHello · 21/02/2025 16:16

I've never forgotten the woman I met with my mum in a national park somewhere in Utah, I think, many years ago. It was during the first Obama election. She heard our British accents and came over to us, demanding to know what we thought of nationalised healthcare. We knew immediately what she was on about. My mum played along, and was enthusiastic about how brilliant it was, everyone could get whatever treatment they needed without having to pay, even if they're poor or unemployed etc, and she was outraged, kept saying but surely we resent our taxes going to pay for lazy people to have treatment, and we said no, we think it's great. Then she got on to how Obama wasn't American and was going to change the American flag if he won, and my mum played naive and was all 'oh wow, that's shocking, you'd think the media would have reported on that if he'd said that, wouldn't you?' and she claimed that 'they' were hiding it all because it was a conspiracy of 'the liberal left' to Obama elected. She had a t shirt saying she loved guns, and started ranting about scrounging lazy immigrants. I often think about her and how she must be loving Trump and the current climate.

Ontopofthesunset · 21/02/2025 16:17

I went to the US for the first time in about 10 years last September to visit two sets of (liberal) friends, one living in a very blue state and one in a very red state. I'm glad I visited my friends then because I wouldn't be keen to go now, not because I'm worried about personal danger as a white late middle-aged woman (though gun violence is an everpresent low level risk that we're not used to here), but more because the US is now being governed by someone who is betraying the country's allies and making some very dangerous long term decisions.

AelinAG · 21/02/2025 16:18

I’d go. But I’m a middle class white woman in her thirties with an acceptable religion and a nationality that doesn’t offend anyone.
The only alternation I’d make to my behaviour is not wearing my Star of David cross or Jewish blessing ring. I’m not Jewish but they belonged to my grandma and I love them and wear them often as it would have made her very happy. But I make this alteration in the UK at the moment a lot too.

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