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How Can The World Stand By While Trump Sucks Up To Putin?

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Nolieinforme · 19/02/2025 20:28

OK, so this probably isn't an AIBU, but I'm speechless that Trump is behaving like a bully and seems to be getting away with it.

He just lies. "Zelensky is a dictator" "Ukraine started the war" "Putin has done nothing wrong" etc, etc. I can hardly believe what's been said on the news today.

Why are the rest of the world letting this happen? If America want's to align themselves with Russia, then we should be returning the Chagos Islands without the huge sum of money promised, closing all the US airbases in the UK, closing the US embassy, and expelling their diplomats, etc, etc.

Trump is a madman and what is going to happen if no-one stands up to him? If this was anyone else they just wouldn't get away with it.

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Wildflowers99 · 21/02/2025 23:23

BIossomtoes · 21/02/2025 23:14

Be fair, it’s really the last five that have been truly dreadful. Trump was comparatively restrained the first time round, he’s going for broke in the lunacy stakes this time. At least it’s an object lesson that should discourage us from ever letting Reform anywhere near power.

I really hope so. I hope this makes ‘crazy’ real enough that it gives the Reform voters their fix without actually voting it in here.

Shakeoffyourchains · 22/02/2025 03:14

Wildflowers99 · 21/02/2025 23:23

I really hope so. I hope this makes ‘crazy’ real enough that it gives the Reform voters their fix without actually voting it in here.

Unfortunately reform voters would literally vote a starving tiger onto their boat if it told them that migrants were the reason they were at sea.

sleepwouldbenice · 22/02/2025 12:03

sleepwouldbenice · 21/02/2025 17:09

Hi all. General query

Can anyone link to genuine, realistic data and discussions regarding what NATO would and could look like without USA, and similarly discussing unions for trade etc across the wider western powers who just don't agree with Trump, thinking of Canada, Australia etc.

I think trust has been lost, and that's everything. What could things look like if everyone just moved away from their antagonism?

There was another go at Canada being the 51st state I believe

news.sky.com/story/you-cant-take-our-country-and-you-cant-take-our-game-canadian-pm-hits-out-at-trump-after-hockey-win-13313764

Thank you all for your information. Will take a good luck

Whilst I am not necessarily thinking I would boycott America I certainly couldn't face going there on holiday whilst I have done in the last few years and was hoping to do so again

They just leave a bad taste in the mouth. Someone you just want to give a wide berth really

beguilingeyes · 22/02/2025 17:52

Walkden · 21/02/2025 06:19

"Churchill should have held elections. So should Zelensky. Why is this difficult?"

Yes over the last few years when people were discussing Churchill legacy and questionable views through a modern lens much discussion must have taken place over the injustice of his dictatorial refusal to hold elections during total war.

Ot more likely this is revisionism to justify trump's likely capitulation to russian demands.

Absolutely. What was Churchill supposed to do. Get people fighting in North Africa or the Atlantic Convoys to pop home for a Thursday in May?

cassie2and2 · 28/02/2025 20:06

Will Mr Trump go on backing Mr Putin for whatever hidden agenda he has.
After watching the digusting behaviour of Mr Trump and his bully boy acclomplices browbeat Mr. Zalensky on the news tonight. (doesn't Mr Trumps know you treat your guests with respect). Will europeans stand up to be counted for what is right or will Trump and Putins behaviours eventually lead to WW3. (not because as Mr Trump says that Mr Zalensky will be causing WW3 because Zalensky will not allow himself and his countrymen to become absorbed by Russia) but because things have gone too far as it did with world war two and Hitler who also want to take over the world. I have read Russian ships are already trying to cut parts of europe off by damaging vital undersea internet electricity, etc. cables.

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