To be fucked off the neighbours use my drive constantly

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My drive is big enough for about 3 cars if they squeeze on. We have a car which normally gets blocked in by the neighbours who use ours without asking.

It also means if we have visitors, they don't have anywhere to park and they have to find somewhere up the street although the roads are skinny and it's a bit of a nightmare (and I guess that's why they won't do it).

They usually get about 5 visitors a day and don't ask if they can use it first.

I wouldn't mind every now and then (which I have said before) but it's almost every day now and I think they're taking the piss.

I've tried speaking to them and they have said that the visitors don't stay for long so it doesn't matter?

Other people are users, if you let them.
Again and again, set firm boundaries from the beginning with each and every one of these weird subjects with a pair of arms, pair of legs, a head, weird smell, making strange noises at you when feeling they are entitled to your time, space and energy.
Works every time. 😂👍

where is the diagram?

those are the rules

They are really taking the mick! I think gate and fence will be the only way to stop them, at this point they see it as their space and don't care.

They sound really unreasonable. I think sadly gates or something similar will be the only way to avoid this in future which is really annoying as it’s an expense to you.

As a side note, it does sound like they might be up to no good if they have five or more visitors a day. That would be an extremely rare occurrence for most people.

No, it's entirely reasonable.

@LookItsMeAgain "Put your foot down and mean it!" Unfortunately, I think this is the bit OP struggles with.

Of course they are being unreasonable but you are being a complete wet lettuce and letting them walk all over you.

Just get some gates or bollards.

I said a couple of hours ago I will be getting fencing. Thanks.

It sounds like he's buying and selling cars from his home. You could contact your local authority's planning dept to see if your neighbour has planning permission for running a business from home which he may need if his business involves:

• A noticeable increase in people coming to your home
• Storing business items outside your home (the cars!)

Just a thought. 😉

My bad. Please do it! Make sure there is not a single crack they can slither in through.

I think whatever OP installs it has to be lockable. If all OP has to do is hook/unhook a chain or open/shut a gate, then that's all her CF neighbours have to do.

Do you have two cars? If so could you start parking one on your driveway and one on theirs?

I suggest you tell them that as they have ignored your requests to check it is convenient before using your driveway, it is now out of bounds permanently. Any use of your driveway by them or their visitors will be deemed as trespass as you have not and will not give permission for them to do so.

Please can we have a diagram? I’m not being mumsnetty about this I just really can’t visualise it.

I reckon the CF is telling their customers/clients that they own that land.

They might even be brazen enough to tell them that the 'crazy woman' who lives next door is territorial and tries to claim it as her land, just because it's outside her property and it does actually belong to her, but that they should just ignore her and refuse to engage.

OMG This should be the final straw! They are seriously taking the piss. Get that fencing up asap and if you wobble and feel like it’s rude- remember this day when they parked and IGNORED your request!

You need to tell them they can't use your drive. Stop telling them to 'ask you' - you have to tell them they don't have permission to use your drive.

So many people seem to have misunderstood what was originally meant, I took the reference to being rude to refer to the neighbours' actions rather than the OP having gates installed!

I think you’ve added to this with the “you can park sometimes if you ask”. Just say “no, no one who visits you can use my drive”.

and yes-get a fence and gate

Id go with pots initially, then a fence, wall and a gate. And a firm "No, please dont do that". I wouldnt allow their guests to park on your drive at all tbh. They've already demonstrated they are the type that if you give them an inch they will take a mile.

I don’t understand why you’d rather pay out hundreds or thousands of pounds on fencing rather than stand up to them. If you have a gate fitted, what will you do if they simply open it and drive in? Will you spend even more money upgrading to electric gates? Or carry around a padlock and chain with you every time you need to leave the house?

I read what you said about the shape of your drive, but is the entrance to your driveway so wide that two cars would be able to drive onto it at the exact same time? If not, then why have you not parked your car at the very entrance, so it’s completely on your driveway and off the pavement, but they cannot move their car past yours?

I’m guessing you’ve lead a sheltered life. Drug dealers are very common. Sorry if that’s a shock to you.

as the saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished. Some people, if you give them an inch, will take a yard. It’s just the way they’re programmed I’m afraid. It’s no good making subtle comments to them, you have to be firm and tell them that you are withdrawing permission for them to use your drive.

That’s what I was thinking. Too many people visiting and for a few minutes.
Get some cameras up OP.

Would there be anyone willing to block their friends or their car in on your drive? Start to inconvenience them the way they are you, then again I can be extremely petty 😂