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Thinking it’s weird for kids to pay parents rent

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User788889 · 14/02/2025 10:31

My friend has a daughter (17) she charges rent. My family did the same to me growing up? Am I the only one who think it’s setting your kids up for failure and greedy to charge your kids for staying in their childhood home. I’d want my kids to be able to afford their own place not make it harder for them. Only thing I would do was pretend to and then give it all back to them…

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WhatALotOfAFussAboutNothing · 14/02/2025 15:17

It’s very middle class mumsnet to assume that everyone can afford to subsidise their adult or nearly adult children!! Some people can’t afford that and it’s good for kids to know living costs

RadStag · 14/02/2025 15:17

AquaPeer · 14/02/2025 15:00

I have worked in social housing for 20
years and part of my role is setting the rent for hundreds of thousands of properties - I can assure you this is not the case.

there is a legally governed rent formula that dictates rent. It is determined by the area and size of property, not who lives there.

the only impact of occupancy is the bedroom tax which is of course irrelevant when you have more occupants

Edited

My sister got reductions based in income. Housing allowance? Essentially the first X amount of rent was paid from this. She lost this benefit. So she had to find the additional money.

So yes, technically the rent didn't increase, but the amount she had to contribute did.

ExercicenformedeZ · 14/02/2025 15:17

I agree with you. My parents never charged me rent and if I had kids, I wouldn't charge them either. My parents wanted me to spend money on getting my own house, I now own two houses.

AquaPeer · 14/02/2025 15:17

RadStag · 14/02/2025 15:09

Yes it does. They look at the household income of ALL adults living at the address and decide rents that way.

So if the household income went from £1000 pcm to £3000 (yours + adult son) they'd charge you more.

They do not. No council or social housing landlord sets rent in this way. It would be impossible for this level of detail considering the volume and goes against everything social housing is for

CurlewKate · 14/02/2025 15:17

I was very grateful that I could afford not to charge my children rent. Many people aren't in that position. Saying it's "weird" is daft. And unkind.

User788889 · 14/02/2025 15:18

thepariscrimefiles · 14/02/2025 13:25

Just because people in the UK normally do not experience developing world levels of poverty (no food, clean water, shelter, sanitation), doesn't mean that they aren't poor. Some families, particularly single parent families, rely on the money from children benefit, other benefits and child maintenance which stop at 18. They may need contributions from the now adult child if they are earning to be able to pay rent, bills and buy food.

Furthers my point. To even have access to benefits is a luxury, wouldn’t you agree? They chose to have kids and get support from their government to do so. Many don’t have this.

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AquaPeer · 14/02/2025 15:19

RadStag · 14/02/2025 15:17

My sister got reductions based in income. Housing allowance? Essentially the first X amount of rent was paid from this. She lost this benefit. So she had to find the additional money.

So yes, technically the rent didn't increase, but the amount she had to contribute did.

Ok so she simply had to pay more of the rent she was always liable for

User788889 · 14/02/2025 15:20

CurlewKate · 14/02/2025 15:17

I was very grateful that I could afford not to charge my children rent. Many people aren't in that position. Saying it's "weird" is daft. And unkind.

Subjective. As many can argue charging kids rent at young ages is unkind. 17 for example is still not an adult.

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RadStag · 14/02/2025 15:20

AquaPeer · 14/02/2025 15:19

Ok so she simply had to pay more of the rent she was always liable for

Yes, basically.

Janiie · 14/02/2025 15:21

'imagine you have your first full time job. If you are living independently, that first check is going to practically disappear towards rent and other necessities. If you live with parents who don’t charge rent, you find yourself with a ridiculous amount of disposable income.'

They save it. For a deposit because 2k won't cut it nowadays.

They are are your kids. Give them a leg up!

I'll ask again as no one seems to be addressing it. The 50quid a month school/college bus fares, the 20quid a week dinner money, the clothes, the nights out, the taxis. Once they work they pay all this themselves so we are actually better off. Do you really need to grab some money for your own bills too?

Hankunamatata · 14/02/2025 15:22

Depends doesn't it. Some people need adult children to contribute to the household income as they struggle to pay bills. Some parents save the money.

It's mainly teaching them you can blow your whole wage when you get paid on luxuries. Wish mil had taught dh that instead of handing him everything. Took bloody years to unpick

RadStag · 14/02/2025 15:24

AquaPeer · 14/02/2025 15:17

They do not. No council or social housing landlord sets rent in this way. It would be impossible for this level of detail considering the volume and goes against everything social housing is for

I further clarified. Her housing allowance went, so she had to pay more of the rent. Sorry it wasn't clear..

So her rent is/was always £500. She would get £400 housing allowance,and pay the remaining £100. Do the rent was covered.
Now she doesn't get the £400 HA. But still has to pay £500 with a further reduced income (no child benefit)
So her ds has to contribute.

He did complain about it, once. She told him to look into renting privately. He saw that a bedsit was £750 pcm... ! He stayed and paid his way.

RadStag · 14/02/2025 15:25

RadStag · 14/02/2025 15:24

I further clarified. Her housing allowance went, so she had to pay more of the rent. Sorry it wasn't clear..

So her rent is/was always £500. She would get £400 housing allowance,and pay the remaining £100. Do the rent was covered.
Now she doesn't get the £400 HA. But still has to pay £500 with a further reduced income (no child benefit)
So her ds has to contribute.

He did complain about it, once. She told him to look into renting privately. He saw that a bedsit was £750 pcm... ! He stayed and paid his way.

And he also has to give her a bit more this month as they're moving her over to UC...and she's not getting paid for 5 weeks 😬😬😬

BunnyLake · 14/02/2025 15:26

Janiie · 14/02/2025 15:21

'imagine you have your first full time job. If you are living independently, that first check is going to practically disappear towards rent and other necessities. If you live with parents who don’t charge rent, you find yourself with a ridiculous amount of disposable income.'

They save it. For a deposit because 2k won't cut it nowadays.

They are are your kids. Give them a leg up!

I'll ask again as no one seems to be addressing it. The 50quid a month school/college bus fares, the 20quid a week dinner money, the clothes, the nights out, the taxis. Once they work they pay all this themselves so we are actually better off. Do you really need to grab some money for your own bills too?

Why would someone working be paying for school/college bus fares?

Why do you not see that a working adult should WANT to contribute something to the home they live in. It doesn’t have to be rent, it could be helping with food costs. Why does the full time working adult kid NOT want to help out should be the question.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/02/2025 15:26

@AquaPeer
No council or social housing landlord sets rent in this way. It would be impossible for this level of detail considering the volume and goes against everything social housing is for.

You're incorrect. Social housing tenants must notify their management company if there are any changes to their circumstance.

If a social tenants become unemployed, the rent would drop.

Your rent is based on your household income, unlike private landlords.

albapunk · 14/02/2025 15:27

Cakeandusername · 14/02/2025 15:14

I agree it’s not helpful. She’ll be getting into spending habits - nails, beauty, meals out, holidays, city breaks, car loan that just aren’t sustainable with household expenses.
If they genuinely don’t need money save it for her.

This is exactly what she spends on, holidays, nails and alcohol and takeaways. She has no idea how to cook, do basic laundry, she also cannot drive so has no car expense to try and do damage limitation.

She's a lovely lass but utterly out of tune with reality. Her family aren't well off, just the molly coddle type.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 14/02/2025 15:28

RandomButtons · 14/02/2025 10:37

It totally depends on the situation.

if an 18 year old has a job and is still living with their parent, and the parent isn’t financially well off, why should the parent still continue to pay for the child’s lifestyle? Maybe the parent/s have struggled for years to pay bills, working hard etc. the child should pay their own way.

If the parent is financially well off and can afford to not charge rent, fantastic.

Even if the parent can afford it, young adults need to learn to manage their money and contribute by paying something, not necessarily 'rent' but for food, toiletries, utilities, council tax, insurance. Parents who can afford it can save it towards a house deposit for them

AquaPeer · 14/02/2025 15:30

RadStag · 14/02/2025 15:24

I further clarified. Her housing allowance went, so she had to pay more of the rent. Sorry it wasn't clear..

So her rent is/was always £500. She would get £400 housing allowance,and pay the remaining £100. Do the rent was covered.
Now she doesn't get the £400 HA. But still has to pay £500 with a further reduced income (no child benefit)
So her ds has to contribute.

He did complain about it, once. She told him to look into renting privately. He saw that a bedsit was £750 pcm... ! He stayed and paid his way.

So this is now a permanent change, she will presumably have to downsize when he moves out as the benefit was based on having dependant children not the cost of the rent vs household income

Ohnobackagain · 14/02/2025 15:30

@User788889 I think it helps kids to understand exactly how much it costs to run a home. I’m sure the rent I paid didn’t remotely cover the costs but it’s part of becoming an adult to acknowledge and pay your way. Same for my friends at the time. Like putting fuel in parents’ car being lucky enough to borrow it, and committing to not drinking alcohol then. All about greater responsibility.

ForPlumReader · 14/02/2025 15:33

Ohnobackagain · 14/02/2025 15:30

@User788889 I think it helps kids to understand exactly how much it costs to run a home. I’m sure the rent I paid didn’t remotely cover the costs but it’s part of becoming an adult to acknowledge and pay your way. Same for my friends at the time. Like putting fuel in parents’ car being lucky enough to borrow it, and committing to not drinking alcohol then. All about greater responsibility.

Absolutely agree

whoamI00 · 14/02/2025 15:35

It is weird

TidyingUpAgain · 14/02/2025 15:36

I’m a firm believer in young adults in full-time work (post-18 and not in education) paying their way. I think not charging them keep (not necessarily rent but their proportion of food and bills at least) risks spoiling them, and I have seen it happen.

Life costs money. I think young people learn more respect for money (and their parents), more responsibility, and more awareness of saving and budgeting when they have to contribute the moment they’re working full-time. Taking a contribution towards keep isn’t capitalising off them, but teaching them - and respecting yourself.

It’s also narrow-minded to be blanket against this if you’re coming at it from a relatively financially comfortable household and with your DC’s other parent sharing the costs.

By the time their kids reach young adulthood, many parents are on their own (or as good as) income-wise - widowed, single with child maintenance having stopped (or never there in the first place), one parent unable to work due to ill health or disability, etc. Parents still fully funding their adult DC in more challenging (or even average) financial circumstances, while often watching their kids enjoy more disposable income than they have themselves, are being martyrs and spoiling their children. What does the adult child learn from this?

I have raised adult DC solo since toddlerhood with inconsistent and for many years no financial support from Dad. I have a mortgage in my name only to pay off eventually (it’s interest-only and while I do save enough, I’d like to clear it before I’m ancient!). I’m helping fund DC through uni, so saving less than I’d like towards the mortgage and my pension at the moment. DC is monumentally grateful for the parenting and financial support I’ve given, and fully expects and wants to contribute once working full-time. DC is responsible, aware of different people’s circumstances, sensible, has put together a budget in a spreadsheet for uni, has started a pension - DC has learned financial responsibility early.

I won’t profiteer off DC. But they will pay their share of bills and food - anything they consume (not “rent”), and I will put this towards my own future security, which I have compromised somewhat to give them the best start - and they will still be in a position to save a lot. They know they can live at home as long as they want or need.

A friend did the same with her DC, charging them a modest amount per month, and they resented paying a few hundred £ a month, so moved in with their dad where they pay nothing. They are constantly buying expensive branded clothes and other items, holidaying and going out drinking, instead of saving for a house. They are earning nearly £30,000 and frequently report being broke.

Even if I was loaded, I’d still charge adult DC their share of bills (and as some have said, save this to help them out down the line). They need to learn that life costs money and not slip into an attitude of entitlement. Yes, it’s their home. But it’s also yours, and it costs money!

If you’re not going to charge adult DCs anything, at least have an agreement that they’ll save X% of their take-home pay while living at home. Otherwise your “generosity” might instead be facilitating them to spend frivolously and fritter, while denying them the opportunity - the necessity - to learn to budget and save.

Janiie · 14/02/2025 15:36

BunnyLake · 14/02/2025 15:26

Why would someone working be paying for school/college bus fares?

Why do you not see that a working adult should WANT to contribute something to the home they live in. It doesn’t have to be rent, it could be helping with food costs. Why does the full time working adult kid NOT want to help out should be the question.

I'm saying when they were at school/college we paid loads in bus fares, dinner money and all the extras that young teens spend.

When they work they pay for their own social lives, transport etc so we are better off. We dont need money for our bills too.

AquaPeer · 14/02/2025 15:38

EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/02/2025 15:26

@AquaPeer
No council or social housing landlord sets rent in this way. It would be impossible for this level of detail considering the volume and goes against everything social housing is for.

You're incorrect. Social housing tenants must notify their management company if there are any changes to their circumstance.

If a social tenants become unemployed, the rent would drop.

Your rent is based on your household income, unlike private landlords.

You’re still incorrect. Your benefits change with your income not your rental charge

hoodiemassive · 14/02/2025 15:39

Very fair if you're hard up and can provide a room within the family home. But only if the adult child is in ft work.

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