To think Trump might be the right Leader for right now?

[Theemeperorsnewclothes]

I am so confused why I am starting to think that Trump might be a good thing right now. I do think he is making the right moves to end conflict right now, which of course can only be a good thing for the poor people suffering in war zones but I’m so conflicted. I was trying to search for why I felt this way and what past war and future war situations might mean with Trump at the helm. Below are notes to myself. I know you educated, worldly wise mums will absolutely be able to educate on what I am missing. I am genuinely interested to hear your perspectives.

Why do wars start?
War is caused by many different things, including competition over land, religious conflicts, and nationalism. Imperialism, racism, and slavery have also been causes of armed conflict.
Why do wars end?
Realistically, wars usually end when one side wins or the parties experience significant war weariness. Thus, World War I was only a temporary end-of-war because there was no clear-cut victory.
We need to put an end to why wars start, not why wars end. Too much devastation and destruction and loss of life when a war starts. In this case, like the war in Gaza there has been no clear “winner” there has been constant and significant “war weariness” but some other country/political party/religious group steps in. However, there is still never a “clear-cut victory”
Tackle the issues that START wars and not STOP wars in the first place. A true leader will make their priority tackling all the issues that start wars. Trump needs to prove himself in this approach.
That said, we are in a very volatile world and ENDING wars is the first priority. Trump appears to have that in his sights. I say this as far left viewer of the world, as opposed to the right take on the world, as it is today.
I don’t care if you are left or right or somewhere in between. War must end now and we must have a leader who can figure out how to stop it happening again. The end. The Leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place, is the one who can save humanity. Right now, we need the wars to end, and like it or not, that is the position we find ourselves in, and that’s why, I currently think it might be Trump.

Anyone have any idea who is the leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place? I’m thinking they would need to be free from corruption and probably not an egotistical, power hungry male.

End of my rant 😁.

With Trump as President, why would anyone want to be an American? My sympathy to them.

On reflection OP and based on the comments from some American posters

Trump is the right leader for USA. They deserve each other

I think sadly Putin has loads of shit on Trump of the kind that will end any power or popularity and the only thing keeping Trump out the nick at the moment was being elected. Both awful men in totally different ways- Putin though I think far more astute in a nasty way - Trump just courts popularity by appealing to the masses prejudices and greed amongst more wealthy republicans and bigging up his enormous ego - don't think he's actually that bright -

https://x.com/robertlendvai/status/1892919562028322897?s=46&t=7uZ5GLraCHnmbl4o9C79gA

This is hilarious!

@Parker231 and last week posted the whole of North America including Canada with USA flag all over it- I'm afraid the Americans have voted in a total agitator fruitloop -

They have taken leave of their senses. Not that they had all that much to start with.

I go by what President Obama said about Trump being 'uniquely unqualified' for the job.

Kind of offensive.

That's like saying 'based on comments made by some Brexiteers, Britain deserved Brexit'

Would it now be accurate to say that Trump has got Zelensky to surrender, to hugely benefit the US and recoup the money they supplied in Aid and secure a future in much needed mineral supply. I am not championing Trumps moral compass but he’s played a blinder. Pretty sure the US citizens/armed forces/taxpayers will be somewhat relieved even if not all of them admit it. Where does that leave the UK? In the same place they started, from world leaders to whipping boys.

Wtf are you on about?
Zelenski and Ukraine have not capitulated to either Putin or Trump. Trump may still want ro plunder a country that is under attack because he's an absolute cowardly wanker of a bully boy with no no moral fibre, but so far, he ain't getting them.

Your statement is as far from accurate or even reality as it's possible to be.

Why are you so aggressive? The likelihood is that Zelensky will agree to end the war very soon due to Trumps involvement. Therefore my statement is fairly accurate but not conclusive. I also stated I am not championing Trumps moral compass.

That comment was not aggressive.
Sending an army into another country, to attack, kill, rape and plunder is aggressive.
To threaten a country that you will ally with it's enemy and let them destroy you if you dint hand over a massive bounty is aggressive
To cheer these fuckers on while they rip apart the veneer of civilisation is aggressive.

To firmly put over that someone is lacking critical thinking skills, being disingenuous or out right lying whilst they are waving around their pom poms and cheering on the cowards is not aggressive, and if you perceive it as such, then that says a lot about you.

I honestly don’t even know what you are talking about anymore. I think someone in the thread was questioning my critical thinking skills/education etc… I am definitely not waving around pom poms either. I do recognise this ‘mumsnet speak’ though, it’s like a shared language… a way of putting posters down… trying to get other posters to ‘pile on’ it’s quite pathetic really. Anyway, some good debate/food for thought has happened within this thread.

He's just Tony Soprano. Someone send for the shrink before it's too late.

You do understand that roughly 70% of the US aid budget to Ukraine reenters the US economy via the defence industry, right? In part, it's a way of diverting military spending back into the domestic economy. I suggest you look up Adam Kinzinger on the topic.

Why would Ukraine let the US “secure” its mineral supplies when the President of the US has just advertised to the world that he is bankrolled by Russia?

@Theemeperorsnewclothes yep nothing like barging into country's , siding with the aggressor , forcing them to hand over stuff- I suggest in future no one accepts any help from USA - comes with very giant strings attached -

@Theemeperorsnewclothes clearly you have zero moral compass too

On the basis that Ukraine has not in fact surrendered, no you would not be accurate.

Do you realise that Ukraine hasn’t got some secret cache of rare minerals that aren’t already found in America? Trump is deluded.
Musk is now threatening to pull Starlink from Ukraine. They are morally bankrupt the pair of them.
No one needs leaders like them.

But he’s not trying to bring peace; he’s trying to get something for himself. This man has made it pretty damn clear that he’s in no way a humanitarian.

Do you honestly believe he is brokering peace and not appeasing Putin, and bullying Ukraine who are after all the victims here having been invaded by Putin?
I think Trump, Musk and their cronies are very dangerous and because of them Europe is in more danger.

Also shouldn’t Trump be looking for reparations from the Russians rather than the Ukraine, as they are the aggressors here?

They are not leaders. They are bootlickers who are clearly overpromoted and out of their depth.

They are incapable of showing real leadership.

I agree, the original pp was about him being the right leader for now, hence my loose application of the word ‘leader’.