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To think Trump might be the right Leader for right now?

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Theemeperorsnewclothes · 12/02/2025 23:25

I am so confused why I am starting to think that Trump might be a good thing right now. I do think he is making the right moves to end conflict right now, which of course can only be a good thing for the poor people suffering in war zones but I’m so conflicted. I was trying to search for why I felt this way and what past war and future war situations might mean with Trump at the helm. Below are notes to myself. I know you educated, worldly wise mums will absolutely be able to educate on what I am missing. I am genuinely interested to hear your perspectives.

Why do wars start?
War is caused by many different things, including competition over land, religious conflicts, and nationalism. Imperialism, racism, and slavery have also been causes of armed conflict.
Why do wars end?
Realistically, wars usually end when one side wins or the parties experience significant war weariness. Thus, World War I was only a temporary end-of-war because there was no clear-cut victory.
We need to put an end to why wars start, not why wars end. Too much devastation and destruction and loss of life when a war starts. In this case, like the war in Gaza there has been no clear “winner” there has been constant and significant “war weariness” but some other country/political party/religious group steps in. However, there is still never a “clear-cut victory”
Tackle the issues that START wars and not STOP wars in the first place. A true leader will make their priority tackling all the issues that start wars. Trump needs to prove himself in this approach.
That said, we are in a very volatile world and ENDING wars is the first priority. Trump appears to have that in his sights. I say this as far left viewer of the world, as opposed to the right take on the world, as it is today.
I don’t care if you are left or right or somewhere in between. War must end now and we must have a leader who can figure out how to stop it happening again. The end. The Leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place, is the one who can save humanity. Right now, we need the wars to end, and like it or not, that is the position we find ourselves in, and that’s why, I currently think it might be Trump.

Anyone have any idea who is the leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place? I’m thinking they would need to be free from corruption and probably not an egotistical, power hungry male.

End of my rant 😁.

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UnGattino · 14/02/2025 15:30

Oh it gets worse. You said up thread “They've (Palestinians) experienced multiple wars.”

No dear, they’ve started ALL of the wars.

Without exception, Israel is the country that gets invaded and attacked, and is hence forced into fighting defensive wars it didn’t initiate:

The Arab-Israel War of 1948. Who was attacked? Israel.
The Fedayeen of 1948-1967. Who was attacked? Israel.
The Six Day War of 1967. Who was attacked? Israel.
The War of Attrition from 1967-1970. Who was attacked? Israel.
The Yom Kippur War of 1973.
Who was attacked? Israel.
The Palestinian Insurgency in South Lebanon 1971-1982. Who was attacked? Israel.
The South Lebanon Conflict of 1985 - 2000. Who was attacked? Israel.
The First Intifada of 1987-1993. Who was attacked? Israel.
The Second Intifada of 2000-2005.
Who was attacked? Israel.
The Lebanon War of 2006. Who was attacked? Israel.
The Gaza War of 2008. Who was attacked? Israel.
The Israeli Gaza Operation of 2012. Who was attacked? Israel.
The Gaza war of 2014. Who was attacked? Israel.
The Israel Palestine Crisis of 2021. Who was attacked? Israel.
The Israel Hamas War of 2023-now. Who was attacked? Israel.

Happy to help.

IdaGlossop · 14/02/2025 15:32

No. I can't imagine a time when a global predator (Canada, Greenland, Gaza so far) intent on dismantling the state of his own nation for the financial gain of himself and his cronies, and unilaterally doing deals with Putin over Ukraine could ever be the right leader.

Crikeyalmighty · 14/02/2025 15:38

Hitler was very popular too initially -

FunnyMintCat · 14/02/2025 16:02

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Yolo12345 · 14/02/2025 16:03

You must be out of your mind to truly think this!

VelvetUndergrounds · 14/02/2025 16:23

Mittens67 · 12/02/2025 23:27

No matter what your question is, an orange psychopath is never the answer.

😂😂😂😂😂

scorpiogirly · 14/02/2025 16:28

Quite a lot actually. He's banned men from competing in women's sports for a start. Getting rid of DEI departments. Tackling illegal immigration. I could go on and on.

Things that people actually voted for him for.

TopPocketFind · 14/02/2025 16:39

Price of eggs is still rising, photos of women have been taped over, names of women have been erased from websites, cancer research has been halted

scorpiogirly · 14/02/2025 17:05

TopPocketFind · 14/02/2025 16:49

This is a good thing.

TopPocketFind · 14/02/2025 17:07

scorpiogirly · 14/02/2025 17:05

This is a good thing.

Hitler thought so too

scorpiogirly · 14/02/2025 17:27

I wasn't aware Hitler conducted a review on children's books to protect them from the evils of general ideology. Hey ho, you learn something new every day.

Serpentstooth · 14/02/2025 17:35

Fahrenheit 451 people. When's the bonfire? Have we got round to witch-burning yet or is that being saved for later in the year?

Lostcat · 14/02/2025 17:40

Mittens67 · 12/02/2025 23:27

No matter what your question is, an orange psychopath is never the answer.

I think this thread should have ended here 😂

TopPocketFind · 14/02/2025 18:16

scorpiogirly · 14/02/2025 17:27

I wasn't aware Hitler conducted a review on children's books to protect them from the evils of general ideology. Hey ho, you learn something new every day.

History books are your friend here

Example
https://mjhnyc.org/events/transgender-experiences-in-weimar-and-nazi-germany/

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 14/02/2025 18:26

Lostcat · 14/02/2025 17:40

I think this thread should have ended here 😂

It should have ended as soon as it began. I'm really surprised it hasn't been removed by MN Towers.

scorpiogirly · 14/02/2025 18:28

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TopPocketFind · 14/02/2025 18:31

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Is that why you reponded with a laughing emoji to my post about the nazi's sending them to concentration camps?

scorpiogirly · 14/02/2025 18:37

They didn't. Gender ideology as we know it today didn't exist. Trans people, cross dressing men were spared if they weren't Jewish. Gay men, were not. So there we are. It wasn't about targetting trans people. In fact, cross dressing was common among the nazis.

DollydaydreamTheThird · 14/02/2025 18:47

I'm late to the party on this but I cannot even comprehend how anyone can think Donald Trump is doing a good job right now. Anything he does is for his own benefit, he doesn't care about Russia and Ukraine or Gaza for that matter. I already have a long list of things he's done since holding the presidency that I fundamentally disagree with. The man is an absolute joke of a president and I feel so sorry for the Americans who didn't vote for him, especially all the women. He will be a stain on history as he is far more dangerous with Elon Musk in his ear.
Misogynist, sexual abuser, rapist, felon.........need I go on!
I think you are on drugs OP or just easily swayed by someone who is confident.

Serpentstooth · 14/02/2025 19:10

Better catch up with JD Vance who's been lecturing the EU about its repression of free speech, lying to its population and being an all round Evil Empire. He obviously has the American concept of geography and, from his descriptions, seems to think he's in Russia. Leaders of the Free World😂

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 14/02/2025 19:11

TopPocketFind · 14/02/2025 18:31

Is that why you reponded with a laughing emoji to my post about the nazi's sending them to concentration camps?

Wtf?

HowardTJMoon · 14/02/2025 19:38

StandFirm · 14/02/2025 14:37

Autocrats can be hugely popular, but they're still autocrats. In fact most of them start off with huge approval rates.

Absolutely. Mussolini had great approval ratings when he gained power. Personality cults often start out that way.

OneLemonDog · 14/02/2025 19:44

HowardTJMoon · 14/02/2025 19:38

Absolutely. Mussolini had great approval ratings when he gained power. Personality cults often start out that way.

Trump isn't even very popular.